Damnit you beat me to it. I would love to see a bowl band. Ive heard Ohio State is the best damn bowl band in the land. I wouldnt know what our bowl band looks like. Haven't seen it for awhile.
Frost under investigation?
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But once you get to that paid anonymous level…woooooo boy lookout! That’s when you get that real Stephen Hawking intelligence flowing!
So then it must take a special kind of dunce to pay money to hangout on a free message board. Did I get that right?
Saw an opinion article on USA newspaper that said universities are using leaked stories on infractions to help ease out head coaches with big buy out in their contracts . If head coaches did something then universities can use this as leverage to negotiate a reduced buy out. Frost has a $20 million buy out. If Nebraska has a bad season this investigation can be very helpful!
I'm not sure he has really coached in three years, so it wouldn't exactly be much of a loss.
Maybe Frost should have kept his mouth shut about Luke McCaffrey and the transfer portal.
Osborne Because he was on the staff prior to astroturf installation in 1970. No ones been dirty since.
It appears Michigan has the same "Analyst doing coaching duties" issues going on. The article posted just today in the Detroit Free Press has quotes from Michigan players as well as discusses how this is a common practice amongst many teams.
Harbaugh breaks rules
Harbaugh breaks rules
I think he's right.
I watched the Trev and Scott press conference this morning (missed it yesterday) and wow, it doesn't take very long and you get the vibe of exactly what is going on.
Trev walks out the naughty boy who looks defiant and like he hasn't slept, and basically smoothly says here we are, cooperating, this is the culprit, all why being nice to him, and I can just see the invisible back stabbing going on..
It's absolutely what is happening.
And Michigan too has a coach who the brass might have to fire this year. And the situations are eerily similar. Blue blood program brings back one its heroes to resurrect the program and who at first is greeted with euphoria. Then... thud. Disappointment. It could be just a coincidence that both Frost and Harbaugh are being outed by one (or many) of their own, but it sure does make it convenient to fire a coach "with cause" by using an infraction that probably won't hurt the institution itself much at all. If it is an orchestrated plan from within, it has a certain diabolical genius to it. Or.... it could just really be a coincidence, Frost will sit out one or more games, and then business as usual. But the string of events does seem odd. Moos leaving abruptly, then the analysts leaving, then an Osborne era guy comes in as AD, then Frost gets outed. Hmmm....
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Is there anything to read into Frost hiring a personal attorney? That choice seems more a contract posture to me versus an NCAA investigation response. But just guessing.
I'd rather we pay the full buyout so hopefully we learn our lesson and stop with these ridiculous contract extensions in the first place.
I wonder if this isn't already a done deal.
My thinking goes back to last year, with all the B1G drama and proverbial middle fingers given to the conference by Scott.
I think our current president and the BOR made it very clear with the Trev hire, that they are doubling down on the B1G. The messaging after the announcement was very much Pro B1G, without even being prompted about it.
I am starting to think it doesn't matter what Scott's record is this year.. it's possible he's been targeted for removal just because of what happened last year.
This might not be at all about winning football games, but rather not wanting to jeopardize the B1G grant money.
My thinking goes back to last year, with all the B1G drama and proverbial middle fingers given to the conference by Scott.
I think our current president and the BOR made it very clear with the Trev hire, that they are doubling down on the B1G. The messaging after the announcement was very much Pro B1G, without even being prompted about it.
I am starting to think it doesn't matter what Scott's record is this year.. it's possible he's been targeted for removal just because of what happened last year.
This might not be at all about winning football games, but rather not wanting to jeopardize the B1G grant money.
Obviously someone has a major grudge against Frost and is out to get him. The timing was no accident coming just before the season starts. Frost must have pissed somebody off real bad.
Maybe I'm interpreting things wrong but an article I read said " the school that reported the violations has a lot of video evidence". This leads me to believe it's not an individual or it could just be sloppy writing OR I read it wrong.
For the conspiracy theorists that also doesn't rule out NU self reporting. One thing I find odd is Frost personally lawyering up. AND you keep getting the headlines that Coach Frost is under investigation rather than Nebraska. Seems a little odd to me. You would think that university lawyers would be there to represent their personel. Seems to be a disassociation going on here
It certainly was an interesting dynamic. I'm not sure what to read into it. It could be as you and Rick interpret. Or it could be simpler like the first step in controlling a petulant child is teaching him who is boss, then shaming him for his actions. In that case, then Trev wants to hang onto Frost and develop him into a solid citizen, and that weird PC was the first step in the process.
But who do you think tipped off the Press about an investigation under way. It was some individual who has an axe to grind, likely a current or former Husker staff member. The infraction itself actually isn't really THAT big of deal but IMO some individual wanted to maximize the impact of the bad publicity for Frost right before the season started.
So much hate for a native son. Has Frost underperformed? 100%. I’m actually shocked at how bad we’ve been. However, I don’t want to blow it up yet. I see signs of culture improvement that will hopefully lead to more W’s on the field. No way you blow this deal up again unless you can hire a proven head coach and pay assistants whatever it takes.
Kevin Warren still pissed about last year, threatens to kick Nebraska from the conference vaporizing hundreds of millions in grant money... NU Administration says, we'll get that corrected.
plan is in motion..
just a hypothesis
Kevin Warren is on thin ice himself and it's much more likely that HE gets kicked out before any school gets kicked out. Laughing
maybe so, but I think it's entirely possible the conference wants Nebraska to fix that problem (unheard of public insubordination) it displayed last year.
I don't think any conference would let a school get away with what happened last year.
You can't just say sorry, as it happened multiple times.
When you ask, "Who has the axe to grind?.. it is them.. in my opinion.
They can pay top notch assistants whatever it takes. Problem we have is head coaches at NU like to play the buddy system for assistant coaches. No matter qualifications
Problem with undermining the coach like this is it pretty much guarantees the team will tank. Kids are pretty perceptive and they will not lay it on the line for a coach with no AD support. That may have been the plan by TA all along.
that is what I think.. has nothing to do with wins/losses.. they need to put a permanent muzzle on the guy who publicly challenged the league and university brass aren't going to give up academic grants worth hundreds of millions. they will can any coach before they give that up. who knows though. just my theory and the only person/organization that would have it out for him like this.
for the players, you will see effort by anyone looking to move on next season, but I agree it could start the snowball.
For those of you who've read my posts on this subject already know that I agree the analyst debacle has little room for a good excuse.
But the off site workouts, without knowing complete details, to me COULD be a nothing burger AND petty.
IF there were a bunch of gyms around Lincoln shut down and not being used why not utilize them to make smaller workout groups rather than bring them all into NU weight facility. Less chance for exposure. Yes I know they were expected to work out on their own. But if FB department could schedule and line that up what's the harm?
Maybe I'm totally missing something here but in the end the results agree with what NU did from a COVID standpoint. Not sure any other b1g school had a less infection rate than we did. Plus they always said that the protocol they had set up was what was in the student athletes best interest safety wise. Am I rationalizing too much??
But the off site workouts, without knowing complete details, to me COULD be a nothing burger AND petty.
IF there were a bunch of gyms around Lincoln shut down and not being used why not utilize them to make smaller workout groups rather than bring them all into NU weight facility. Less chance for exposure. Yes I know they were expected to work out on their own. But if FB department could schedule and line that up what's the harm?
Maybe I'm totally missing something here but in the end the results agree with what NU did from a COVID standpoint. Not sure any other b1g school had a less infection rate than we did. Plus they always said that the protocol they had set up was what was in the student athletes best interest safety wise. Am I rationalizing too much??
People keep saying he cheats and cant win. This all just happened after last season, so if they have a winning record this year then the cheating worked.
Then why isn’t Michigan being investigated ?
Harbaugh admitted one of his analyst was coaching he said that it was a big mistake..