Kurt Warner not happy wjth

[timnsun]

No. See some programs aren’t in trouble because they win. I think you forget that we still lose. And we have lost more players than any other team so our options to replace said transfers is more limited.

Could this be a sign of trouble? Sure could… But there are certain posters who look at this and constantly bang that drum whenever they see something like this. You have been fairly consistent claiming that all of this means something rotten is going on. I have been fairly consistent claiming that these things happen all the time.

I guess I will just have to expect that whenever you post in a thread like this it’s always going to be the sky is falling… And whenever I post in a thread like this you’re going to see that my head is in the sand.

 

[Headcard]

They were significant contributors or talents. All these aren’t clearly on Frost they all have their reasons. But we lead the league in transfers per LJS. So eventually you gotta see a red flag.

Kade Warner is hardly a significant contributor. He has less than 250 yards receiving and 0 TD’s in his 3 years combined. Only someone trying to create red flags would claim a player like that is a significant contributor.

 

[Huskerz99]

Could this be a sign of trouble? Sure could… But there are certain posters who look at this and constantly bang that drum whenever they see something like this. You have been fairly consistent claiming that all of this means something rotten is going on. I have been fairly consistent claiming that these things happen all the time.

I guess I will just have to expect that whenever you post in a thread like this it’s always going to be the sky is falling… And whenever I post in a thread like this you’re going to see that my head is in the sand.

So when I tell you per the LJS we have the most transfers (37) since the end of 2019 you say well northwestern lost their top 2 backs. Okay. But their total is only 11 transfers. So it happens all the time? Yes and no. Don’t only look at the numbers but look at the context of players leaving. The face of the program. I mean every stupid husker online video made featured wandale. Luke was labeled the future face. Almost every player from Miami transferred.
Do I think the sky is falling? No. But after 3 years and 3 losing seasons do I think frost is not who we thought he was? Yes.
I have also said I think we will have a better season this year even with the transfers. However, 1 winning season in 4 Years? so let’s say we see these red flags from frost and after 5 years we haven’t won the west? This is a program that should win the west 1 time every 3 years at least. it can and should be done.
No matter how you slice and dice it frost has failed in every aspect of this job minus recruiting rankings.
Tell me something else he had won at and it might change some of our attitudes

 

[Angry Midget]

He doesn’t like that his son was passed on the depth chart last year, most parents wouldn’t.

However, can anyone actually say Warner deserved to play more? He has had all sorts of opportunities and did nothing with them.

Loved the kid but it did look like he whiffed on two TD passes. Lots of electric talent with a near under their belts now. Watch out!

 

[Huskerz99]

Kade Warner is hardly a significant contributor. He has less than 250 yards receiving and 0 TD’s in his 3 years combined. Only someone trying to create red flags would claim a player like that is a significant contributor.

Okay. Defend JD and wandale now with that defense.

 

[Headcard]

Okay. Defend JD and wandale now with that defense.

I am not trying to “defend” anything. I am trying to live in reality and not crazytown.

Yes, we have had two transfers that hurt, not all of them. And we are far from the only program to lose good players. Put down the pitchfork and get a grip on reality.

 

[poundth3rock]

Exactly. The blackshirts annually just keep getting better and the OLine just very well might finally come around.

Now, if we just had a magic wand for our special teams.

Special team Punt/Kick and return and coverage has to be corrected for this staff to win enough games. They need to devote whatever time it takes for those units to hold there own and supply the appropriate starters if warranted (shouldn't have to in year 4). I think if we had average starting field position numbers for some games it would be shocking.

-Fix Special Teams with Focus
-Don't put Martinez in unnecessary 2nd and 3rd down and obvious passing situations with dumb penalties and snaps where teams don't have to account for his running ability
- Until he proves otherwise, manage Martinez by limiting carries to minimum amount team needs to be effective and limit throws in obvious passing downs. The defense is competitive now, a net 38 yard punt can be your friend and win you a game.

IF Martinez proves otherwise in 2021, by all means open it up.

Outside of a couple games, I wouldn’t call the West world beaters

 

[Huskerz99]

Yes, two transfers that hurt, not all of them. And we are far from the only program to lose good players. Put down the pitchfork and get a grip on reality.

We have the most transfers in the big 10 since December 2019. Were #1!! That’s the only thing we have won at. And the other teams close to us in that number went through coaching changes or had a coach on the hot seat.

 

[Headcard]

We have the most transfers in the big 10 since December 2019. Were #1!! That’s the only thing we have won at. And the other teams close to us in that number went through coaching changes or had a coach on the hot seat.

Yep that certainly seems to be a big deal for you, but any excuse to ***** is. Keep doing you, seems fun.

BTW. @Reditus posted this earlier in the thread, maybe you missed it.

 

[Huskerz99]

Yep that certainly seems to be a big deal for you, but any excuse to ***** is. Keep doing you, seems fun.

Keep praising these kids once they sign then throwing them under the bus once they leave and bashing them. Seems even more fun.

 

[Headcard]

Keep praising these kids once they sign then throwing them under the bus once they leave and bashing them. Seems even more fun.

When have I ever bashed a player? Hint I don’t, not my style at all. You on the other hand, are attacking anything and everything Nebraska Football 24/7. No matter how creative you have to get to make up some buzz are angle.

 

[timnsun]

So when I tell you per the LJS we have the most transfers (37) since the end of 2019 you say well northwestern lost their top 2 backs. Okay. But their total is only 11 transfers. So it happens all the time? Yes and no. Don’t only look at the numbers but look at the context of players leaving. The face of the program. I mean every stupid husker online video made featured wandale. Luke was labeled the future face. Almost every player from Miami transferred.
Do I think the sky is falling? No. But after 3 years and 3 losing seasons do I think frost is not who we thought he was? Yes.
I have also said I think we will have a better season this year even with the transfers. However, 1 winning season in 4 Years? so let’s say we see these red flags from frost and after 5 years we haven’t won the west? This is a program that should win the west 1 time every 3 years at least. it can and should be done.
No matter how you slice and dice it frost has failed in every aspect of this job minus recruiting rankings.
Tell me something else he had won at and it might change some of our attitudes

Like I said… It could signal a problem. But I don’t run to this board every time something bad happens with the intention of shining a light on it like some others do. There are those who take apparent delight in pointing out that all of this is happening. Expect the other side to respond when you do. It’s really a simple as that.

 

[Huskerz99]

When have I ever bashed a player? Hint I don’t, not my style at all. You on the other hand, are attacking anything and everything Nebraska Football 24/7. No matter how creative you have to get to make up some buzz are angle.

You bash players when they leave the program to defend Frost. It’s your Thing.

 

[timnsun]

Keep praising these kids once they sign then throwing them under the bus once they leave and bashing them. Seems even more fun.

Where has headcard bashed players who are leaving? Where have I bashed players who are leaving, for that matter?

Is saying that Warner wasn’t good enough to maintain his starting position considered bashing?

 

[Headcard]

You bash players when they leave the program to defend Frost. It’s your Thing.

You are completely full of ****, that’s your thing.

 

[poundth3rock]

So when I tell you per the LJS we have the most transfers (37) since the end of 2019 you say well northwestern lost their top 2 backs. Okay. But their total is only 11 transfers. So it happens all the time? Yes and no. Don’t only look at the numbers but look at the context of players leaving. The face of the program. I mean every stupid husker online video made featured wandale. Luke was labeled the future face. Almost every player from Miami transferred.
Do I think the sky is falling? No. But after 3 years and 3 losing seasons do I think frost is not who we thought he was? Yes.
I have also said I think we will have a better season this year even with the transfers. However, 1 winning season in 4 Years? so let’s say we see these red flags from frost and after 5 years we haven’t won the west? This is a program that should win the west 1 time every 3 years at least. it can and should be done.
No matter how you slice and dice it frost has failed in every aspect of this job minus recruiting rankings.
Tell me something else he had won at and it might change some of our attitudes

I have no problem with a wait and see attitude based on results so far and while I can certainly justify why attrition is higher for a transition coach, the identification and retention of players needs to improve. Some of the Florida kids seemed like they were out the door before they got here. Are we creating the sense of family necessary to keep homesick kids from leaving early in there career.

While I like the WR group exactly as it is, we would all feel better if Robinson was a returning JR and a guy or two from the 2018 transition class like Watt would have panned out and was productive returning SR. Throw in some cleaner football and a couple more wins so we don't have 5 losing seasons in six years and it probably much easier for the show me folks to get excited about guys like Manning, Betts and Fidone and the young lineman.

I still have belief/hope this thing will take off in 2021 and offensively exceed 2018 and along with a solid defense and cleaner football a real shot at West and continued momentum. I also don't see this as Kool Aid or pipe dream but legitimate possibility based on roster assembled and past success of the staff including Oregon, UCF and the 2018 offense along with continued incremental improved off the defense over last 3 years.

We have somewhere between 17-18 returning starters and some very talented young guys waiting in wings. We should expect this team to win in 2021 and staff should be held accountable in year 4 if this continues to be a losing football team.

 

[timnsun]

You bash players when they leave the program to defend Frost. It’s your Thing.

I think you’re getting confused… I’ve seen headcard bash posters… But not players. There’s a big difference.

 

[chisler]

He missed a couple TD's but it's pretty easy to lose concentration when you don't trust your QB's to get you the ball.



Kurt Warner
@kurt13warner

Replying to
@AdamKruegerTV
That was supposed to read “when he played at NEB”? replying to person asking me a question!! Didn’t notice until you responded!

losing concentration is not the qb s problem

 

[Huskerz99]

I think you’re getting confused… I’ve seen headcard bash posters… But not players. There’s a big difference.

Okay. If you can go back in all your posts and never find a time when you bashed a player then you are perfect. When you never said qb should be a receiver. When you said a guy shouldn’t start even though he grades exactly the same. If you can go back over all your posts and find you never said one bad thing about a player then you guys are mr perfect.

 

[poundth3rock]

You are completely full of ****, that’s your thing.

Yep, no one bashing Warner. He is a below average to poor BCS level player which is simply a measure of how he performs relative to his peers. You cannot have a football conversation with talking about player performance and it is perfectly fine if done in a respectful manner.

Still a hell of a lot better athlete than most including me.

 

[Headcard]

Okay. If you can go back in all your posts and never find a time when you bashed a player then you are perfect. When you never said qb should be a receiver. When you said a guy shouldn’t start even though he grades exactly the same. If you can go back over all your posts and find you never said one bad thing about a player then you guys are mr perfect.

You are all over the place. I’m saying I don’t bash players, like you claimed was “my thing”. I don’t bash players and have been very critical of people that do. However, those examples are far from bashing players.

 

[chisler]

Spiellman and Morgan played at Nebraska for Frost in 2018 and were 2nd and 3rd team all conference players on a team that finished second in total offense.

For many reasons lack of available scholarship players resulted in guys like Warner getting PT at WR and Oline and the team regressed. You play the number of guys of Warner's caliber in a power five conference and you are going to have problems

Recruiting slowly fixes issues on 0-line and those players hade been passed up by Freshman who were legit Big Ten type players. This was beginning to happen at WR and in 2021 a player like Warner isn't going to play./ Warner should just say thank you for the opportunity on the way out the door but many parents are completely dilusional about there kids prospects. I think anyone that knows any highschool coaches can attest to this.

start paying for his education kurt.

 

[FortNebraska]

Okay. Defend JD and wandale now with that defense.

I will. JD was weird, lazy, entitled and a pot head. I would have benched JD for his garbage blocking alone. Sad part is the kid has talent. I live in Fort Worth. There are 10 guys with his talent in a 50 mile radius of my home. We featured him at Nebraska and he took it for granted. That depression narrative was fake as well. Kid is a punk.

As for Wandale, it doesn't surprise me he went back home. He was "Mr. Kentucky Football" or whatever it's called. He has talent but was hardly a game changer, especially at WR. Anybody that has a handler like his trainer can hit the road as far as I'm concerned. He is a midget as has a 0% chance of making the NFL. His arrogance and the arrogance of the people around him is gross. I hope he gets his NFL routes at Kentucky.

 

[Redscarlet]

Keep praising these kids once they sign then throwing them under the bus once they leave and bashing them. Seems even more fun.

Go Away!

 

[GBRforLife1]

A lot of highly respected football people don’t have a lot of good things to say about Frost

like it or not Mike Riley is a highly respected coach in football circles. People understood he wasn’t a good fit and understood Neb had to move on - but Frost’s shots at him in the opening press conferences pissed a lot of long time football people off.

when asked to give an opinion about Neb and Frost they are anything but glowing

you can now add the Warner’s to the Speilmans and mccaffreys along with those in the game who respect Riley who have very little good to say about the program under frost

Lol says the non-nebraska fan who knows nothing.

 

[GBRforLife1]

Hold on a minute. Everybody in this room bitches constantly about Frosts lack off deep throws. Now you want to bash a kid for only have 95 yards on 17 catches. Maybe thats because Frost dont call deep passes. How many of those 17 went for 1st downs? I ask that not knowing but since you want to bash the 17 catches then I figured you would at least know what they went for. How many WR had great stats under Frost? None. Absolutely none. Looking at that film in this thread, it looked like he got open downfield in practices. But that was against our weak *** DBs.

Why didn't he take it the distance with his elite talent and speed?

 

[Huskerz99]

Why didn't he take it the distance with his elite talent and speed?

The offense doesn’t create separation in space. Maybe it’s too predictable? Maybe it’s the players

 

[timnsun]

Okay. If you can go back in all your posts and never find a time when you bashed a player then you are perfect. When you never said qb should be a receiver. When you said a guy shouldn’t start even though he grades exactly the same. If you can go back over all your posts and find you never said one bad thing about a player then you guys are mr perfect.

You and I have a VERY different understanding of the word bash. Saying a player is better suited at another position is not bashing. Saying a player shouldn’t start even though he grades the same? Huh? How would I know how they grade? I really have no idea what you are trying to say here. This is not bashing.

 

[little a]

Go for a bike ride
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No he needs to stay in the basement.... he knows everything from COVID to what recruits, players, and coaches are thinking.

 

[Huskerz99]

You and I have a VERY different understanding of the word bash. Saying a player is better suited at another position is not bashing. Saying a player shouldn’t start even though he grades the same? Huh? How would I know how they grade? I really have no idea what you are trying to say here. This is not bashing.

Frost says mccaffrey and Martinez graded the same in fall camp.

 

[kkotsch87]

I do think this situation alludes to how this staff has issues with who to play and how they grade people. Like Frost before the season mentioned how Luke graded out almost the same as Martinez in fall camp. So you figure Luke is going to be a decent qb. Then we watch him play and it’s like how can he grade the same when it’s not even close? What grading system are you using if Luke graded out the same? We all sit here and say Luke is not a qb when he transferred but frost has proof that he graded out exactly the same as Adrian. It doesn’t make any sense.

Some people have the "IT" Factor, and others look good in practice.

 

[Headcard]

Frost says mccaffrey and Martinez graded the same in fall camp.

It is very, very strange that you keep repeating that like it is some smoking gun. Guess what, they gave the kid a chance to play. It clearly didn’t translate to equal play on the field, hope find what he’s looking for.

 

[Huskerz99]

You are all over the place. I’m saying I don’t bash players, like you claimed was “my thing”. I don’t bash players and have been very critical of people that do. However, those examples are far from bashing players.

Here is how you hurt the program. When Kade leaves you mention how he drops passes and barely puts up any stats. Okay. Some truth to that. But what happens is his dad sees something else and has quite a bit of power. So his dad gets into a twitter argument with a fan saying Kade can’t catch and drops passes or whatever. Well maybe there is more to it. And people in the football world probably value kirt Warner more than Scott frost especially now. So when a potential recruit (Especially one with nfl ties) wants to come to Nebraska they might ask Kurt what his opinion is. And it might not be favorable for douchebag fans who mention how Kade can’t catch or put up stats.

 

[Huskerz99]

It is very, very strange that you keep repeating that like it is some smoking gun. Guess what, they gave the kid a chance to play. It clearly didn’t translate to equal play on the field, hope find what he’s looking for.

Who do you think is better? You mentioned Luke should be a receiver but a guy making 5 million gives them the same grade?

 

[Lincoln100]

I understand but Kurt was a “once in a lifetime” type deal. Unless slow white guys that can’t catch become popular for NFL receivers, Kade has hit the end of the road. I actually think he will have a hard time finding a new home.

what's his skin color got to do with it.

 

[Headcard]

Here is how you hurt the program. When Kade leaves you mention how he drops passes and barely puts up any stats. Okay. Some truth to that. But what happens is his dad sees something else and has quite a bit of power. So his dad gets into a twitter argument with a fan saying Kade can’t catch and drops passes or whatever. Well maybe there is more to it. And people in the football world probably value kirt Warner more than Scott frost especially now. So when a potential recruit (Especially one with nfl ties) wants to come to Nebraska they might ask Kurt what his opinion is. And it might not be favorable for douchebag fans who mention how Kade can’t catch or put up stats.

You are an absolute moron. Anyone on earth can look up his stats. I’m not taking shots at anyone. I’m not talking to him or his dad, Im not tagging them in post or anything like that.

There is no sane reason to pretend he was a superstar here. You just do it to help your crazy narrative. He was a backup that wants to be a starter and is off looking for that opportunity. It is what it is. You think it’s a problem and we need to be mad at someone. I think that there is no reason to be upset with Kade or with Frost over this.

Now here is how you hurt the program. You piss and moan constantly. You complain about things that are non issues. You create a toxic environment that no one can stand and no one wants to be a part of. “Fans” like you are everything wrong with college football.

 

[phoenix4nu]

You are an absolute moron. Anyone on earth can look up his stats. I’m not taking shots at anyone. I’m not talking to him or his dad, Im not tagging them in post or anything like that.

There is no sane reason to pretend he was a superstar here. You just do it to help your crazy narrative. He was a backup that wants to be a starter and is off looking for that opportunity. It is what it is. You think it’s a problem and we need to be mad at someone. I think that there is no reason to be upset with Kade or with Frost over this.

Now here is how you hurt the program. You piss and moan constantly. You complain about things that are non issues. You create a toxic environment that no one can stand and no one wants to be a part of. “Fans” like you are everything wrong with college football.

I wonder if this guy is even a Nebraska fan. I have my doubts.

 

[Lincoln100]

same with Keyshawn Jr and slow, fat, pudgy black guys

oh no you di nt

 

[Huskerz99]

You are an absolute moron. Anyone on earth can look up his stats. I’m not taking shots at anyone. I’m not talking to him or his dad, Im not tagging them in post or anything like that.

There is no sane reason to pretend he was a superstar here. You just do it to help your crazy narrative. He was a backup that wants to be a starter and is off looking for that opportunity. It is what it is. You think it’s a problem and we need to be mad at someone. I think that there is no reason to be upset with Kade or with Frost over this.

Now here is how you hurt the program. You piss and moan constantly. You complain about things that are non issues. You create a toxic environment that no one can stand and no one wants to be a part of. “Fans” like you are everything wrong with college football.

Losing all these games and having losing seasons is a non issue? Lol. Okay.

 

[Headcard]

I wonder if this guy is even a Nebraska fan. I have my doubts.

He is an insane person. I am guessing this is not his first screen name.