New Dude Seating Capacity
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This is the best thing to do. Some of y'all are trying to over complicate this whole thing. If you can't make it to your game, the ticket holder can sell his ticket. Just like we do for football. I don't know why we never do this in baseball. My parents live far away but love to try and made it to a good series every season. They would be more than willing to spend extra to buy chairback seats off a season ticket holder who can't make it.
I don't have extra money and free time. I'm in nearly the exact same situation as you. However, I don't it negatively at all. That's the difference in our viewpoints. By the way, I didn't get season tickets either
It's not that they WANT to leave you or I out. It's just that there really isn't that much of a choice. How do you not understand this. And we DO have reasonable GA seats starting next year in the upper deck, quit saying that, you don't become any less wrong every time you say that. Not to mention incredible views everywhere else
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I think there are a lot of fans worried about 3 or 4 specific games when the school is more focused on the other 35 home games a year. The current layout makes it look less empty during games like the one you had last night but also allows for the huge crowds.
I also don’t think there was any way to please everybody in all this when you’re trying to create something unique. You want bleachers? Ok, well then you probably can’t call it the best stadium in college baseball anymore. Bigger berms? Ok, that takes away from the grand entrance in right. Don’t want a grand entrance? Ok, well now you’re removing one of the better aesthetic parts of the whole stadium.
If it’s that big of a deal that you have a chairback seat but can’t afford season tickets, there is always somebody willing to sell theirs outside the stadium or on the secondary market. And again, the grandstand opens up eventually every game and often times it’s open from the start.
We have not priced out the middle class whatsoever. The berms will be popular with a lot of people as they are at many stadiums.
I also don’t think there was any way to please everybody in all this when you’re trying to create something unique. You want bleachers? Ok, well then you probably can’t call it the best stadium in college baseball anymore. Bigger berms? Ok, that takes away from the grand entrance in right. Don’t want a grand entrance? Ok, well now you’re removing one of the better aesthetic parts of the whole stadium.
If it’s that big of a deal that you have a chairback seat but can’t afford season tickets, there is always somebody willing to sell theirs outside the stadium or on the secondary market. And again, the grandstand opens up eventually every game and often times it’s open from the start.
We have not priced out the middle class whatsoever. The berms will be popular with a lot of people as they are at many stadiums.
With comments like this, no sense wasting any more time trying to help you, you're hopeless
now, carrying on being pissed off at our awesome new stadium lulzzl
Speaking as another Memphis-area resident, I agree with this sentiment. It's not reasonable to pile the family into the car early one Saturday and set out on a 5-hour roundtrip on the HOPE we'll be able to score tickets from scalpers. And if it's likely that we'll be standing the whole game, I'm not even going to try.
There needs to be some mechanism for single-game purchases of tickets that come with the reasonable expectation of somewhere to sit (chairback, bleacher, berm, whatever). I could see that being accopmlished either through more GA seating (or berm space) or a reliable ticket resale system.
I realize chairback fees and season tickets are what pay the bills, but that's simply not reasonable for someone who lives 2.5 hours away. But I'd be willing to pay a premium for single-game seats, and I can't be the only one.
“Yes, I’d like one $400 chairback season ticket please.”
”Sorry, we are all sold out of season ticket allotment. All we have left are chairback general admission tickets for $10 per game”
”How many home games are there?”
”33, sir.”
”Okay, I’ll take one general admission single game ticket for every game”
”OK. That will be $330.”
”Here’s my AmEx number”
Again, it would be the exact same problem.
Again, y'all are getting wayyyy to worked up over this. We just need a ticket exchange and that is it... we don't need more or less seats or more berm space. Just a ticket exchange. That way, for the family who can only make it to one series out of the year, they can pony up and buy chairback seats off a season ticket holder. Or if a family wants to go cheap and have a picnic on the berm they can do that too. I can't believe we still do not have a ticket exchange for baseball.
In football, if you can't make it to a game you typically sell the ticket. But for what ever reason we can't do that in baseball
In football, if you can't make it to a game you typically sell the ticket. But for what ever reason we can't do that in baseball
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Like I said before, if that ends up being the case. Great. I have no issues with that. Stadium is amazing to look at.
Seems to be a lot of people saying there won't be enough and some saying there will be enough.
I guess nobody actually knows for sure. If so I would like to see the actual number of seats in the upper deck that will be available for GA.
The berms look very small. Not nearly big enough. If that if offset with a bunch of GA upper deck seats. Awesome. I will definitely be at my share of games.
Can we not at least estimate the number? How many actual chairback seats will be in the stadium when finished?
I wonder if that has something to do with the per game price of ticket. If you don’t use two baseball tickets, you’re only eating 20 dollars, whereas not using two football tickets could be 100-150 dollars.
Maybe we should let Kendall Rogers weigh in on this. I'm sure he'll be able to provide some excellent details on fixing the current situation. Can someone tweet him?
Not everyone lives within easy driving distance of Starkville to be able to come to many (if any) midweek games. I’ll wait to complain about available GA seating until seeing how it works out, but if my family and I can’t purchase a single game (or even series) ticket and be sure there’s going to be a place to sit to see the game, it’s pretty unlikely we’ll drive from Memphis to go to baseball games. We typically have made a few games per season, and I understand I’m not that important to the program, but I hope they’ve considered people like me who don’t live that close and, I’d guess, make up the largest share of fans.
It’s awesome but it still doesn’t solve the problem of catering to all of our fans. You can kick the can down the road and continue to act like everybody besides you just needs to “pony up for season tickets”, but I’m willing to bet you have no clue what you’re talking about. In fact, you’ve already proved it.
I have a place for my *** in a seat, but facts are that most regular MSU baseball fans don’t, and it’s a fair complaint if the University wants to continue to build the fan base. Your mindset is simply incorrect.
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You apparently have not read a word of my other numerous posts in this thread if that is your opinion regarding me
It seems everyone is in agreement that a heavily advertised exchange,with a cut going to the university, would solve all the concerns. Why is the athletic dept unable or unwilling to implement this? We’ve had this complaint for years now.
If we had this system, a once-per-season fan that wants a guaranteed seat, before they commit to a multi-hour drive, could pony up for SBW or regionals, or choose to pay around face for the low demand games. Or there would always be the non-guaranteed route, where you could get there early enough to get a spot in grass, or the GA upper deck (if that actually happens). I don’t think anyone would complain, if all these options existed for each game.
If we had this system, a once-per-season fan that wants a guaranteed seat, before they commit to a multi-hour drive, could pony up for SBW or regionals, or choose to pay around face for the low demand games. Or there would always be the non-guaranteed route, where you could get there early enough to get a spot in grass, or the GA upper deck (if that actually happens). I don’t think anyone would complain, if all these options existed for each game.
Hate to break it to you, but people like you (and me, actually) DON’T make up the largest % of fans. Not even close. Not for baseball. 70% of the fans at baseball games are Starkville locals, students, and others from the GTR area that can make it to the game and sleep in their own beds with little to no deviation from their day to day routine. You have another 15-20% who come up from Jackson, Tupelo, Meridian etc. for weekend series and maybe the occasional midweek game. The remaining 10-15% of folks come from farther out of town on some weekends only (maybe just SBW for the lion’s share of that group).
In my opinion, the stadium was built proportionally. You have berm seating representing 10-15% of overall capacity for that 10-15% of people that are not in your season ticket base or regular attendees. The remaining seats are targeted for season ticket commitments. It’s really no different than football, just smaller in scale. And again, if you want to buy chairbacks for a single game or series, there ate ALWAYS scalpers outside the stadium. And they aren’t that expensive.
I agree that it's a mystery why we haven't had a ticket exchange system for a long time. I e-mailed the athletic dept way back when Templeton was still AD suggesting they put in a tickets exchange system where people could donate their unused tickets back to the university to be resold. Greg Byrne was an assistant AD at the time and called me within 5 minutes to discuss. I still don't know why it hasn't happened. But the one big problem with a ticket exchange system will be getting the season ticket holders to put their unused tickets up for sale, rather than just sit on them.
I'm a season ticket holder and I would certainly put mine up. Especially the Sunday and mid-week games since I live out of town. I typically only go to the Friday/Saturday games of the SEC series. I'm sure there are many other season ticket holders in the same boat.
Probably cost. But then again, with all the tech stuff today, seems like it could be done quickly via smartphones, similar to Omaha. But Omaha has a much bigger demand than we do
I disagree that non-local people like me don’t make up the majority of fans. You’re no doubt right that we don’t make up the majority of attendees because of distance, but there are probably more MSU fans outside the golden triangle than in it. I understand attendance at baseball especially is more driven by local fans, but my point was simply that I hope they’ve also considered the many people outside the immediate area who are MSU fans.
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Cost was LT's excuse back circa 2004 when I asked him.
He was taking Q&A at the national alumni conference, and he tried to hand-wave a lot to keep me from pinning him down. I pointed out you could set the system up so that the school got any cash while the ticket holder got BC credit, but he refused to discuss details, and just kept citing the expense.
I seem to remember asking Byrne about it at a local alumni function, and his response was they were looking into it. I don't think I ever surfaced it with Stricklin, and haven't with Cohen.
He was taking Q&A at the national alumni conference, and he tried to hand-wave a lot to keep me from pinning him down. I pointed out you could set the system up so that the school got any cash while the ticket holder got BC credit, but he refused to discuss details, and just kept citing the expense.
I seem to remember asking Byrne about it at a local alumni function, and his response was they were looking into it. I don't think I ever surfaced it with Stricklin, and haven't with Cohen.
In my experience most of the baseball fans are coming from an hour's radius, but yes there are some in that 2 hour radius, Birmingham included
I wouldn't mind paying a reasonable handling fee to offset the cost of a transfer system and I'm sure many other non-season holders wouldn't mind it. If we had an exchange, then reward season ticket holders for putting their tickets on it thru BC points and possibly BC points plus cost of the ticket if it sells.
Jackson / Meridian....maybe. But I don’t think we have a large contingent of people driving from Memphis to Starkville for 7-8 weekends, every weekend, during baseball season. Regardless, the point was that local attendees plus Jackson / Meridian / Tupelo regions comprise probably 85-90% of core attendance in the stadium, and those are season ticket holders. How that breaks down between local and semi-local is irrelevant. Whether we have berms, chairbacks, or skyboxes available for walk ups, outside of SBW and regionals you aren’t going to have more than 10-15% of the attendees in any scenario that aren’t season ticket holders. Ever.
You up have to have some GA seating space for the non-regulars, and we do. And the percentage of seats available is commiserate with the percentage of spectators who will demand them for 95% of home games.
So the berm will hold 1,500 - 2,500 people?
That's good news. It looks way smaller to me
There are two berms. I would think you could easily fit 1500 between both of them. With the old metal bleachers, you could fit 1500 on just one side, by comparison (so 3000 total). And I’d think most everyone would agree that those were at generally at 50% capacity or less for every weekend except SBW, so the current space allotment makes sense.
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Well they are smaller, especially down the LF line. But there is still no way that both berms put together don’t hold as many folks as at least one structure of the old bleachers, at bare minimum.
Well ... a person takes up less space standing up compared to sitting down, so capacity goes up. **