Zion declared out tomorrow

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I think they took a RS off a dude on February 23rd for a reason that is related to Zion either being out longer than they hope or the possibility of him deciding to hang it up for the draft. I hope for the latter.

Has to be the latter right? You don't burn a redshirt if a guy is out for 2 weeks. But if staff think Zion might be out longer, almost casting doubt if he will play again, then why not use a RS, especially one that can take Zion's minutes and shoot the ball?

I also wonder if Zion is going the route of Michael Porter, who never definitely said he was done. Now yes, he DID come back for like 2 games. But I think that was to prove his game a bit. I wonder iz Zion didn't want to cause this huge media storm by saying "I'm done with college" and is instead just going to keep pushing it out until here we are in April and Duke isn't even in the Final 4..
 
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Has to be the latter right? You don't burn a redshirt if a guy is out for 2 weeks. But if staff think Zion might be out longer, almost casting doubt if he will play again, then why not use a RS, especially one that can take Zion's minutes and shoot the ball?

I also wonder if Zion is going the route of Michael Porter, who never definitely said he was done. Now yes, he DID come back for like 2 games. But I think that was to prove his game a bit. I wonder iz Zion didn't want to cause this huge media storm by saying "I'm done with college" and is instead just going to keep pushing it out until here we are in April and Duke isn't even in the Final 4..

Well we need to know something because if Zion is done, the season won't count and the NCAA will put an asterisk next to the champion. [laughing]
 

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Have a feeling Zion has "further complications" with his knee, it never "fully heals" and he sits out the rest of the season.


No way in hell that happens. He will be back soon. The kid isn't going to miss a chance to win a title, IMO. I don't think there is anyway he doesn't come back. Why would he not?
 
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Well we need to know something because if Zion is done, the season won't count and the NCAA will put an asterisk next to the champion. [laughing]

I honestly hope that is what happens. I don't just want Duke to lose, I want them to lose by something not going their way, for once their charmed existence doesn't hand them a trophy. I want Zion to not play, and for Duke to lose the game by 1 point because they had no one who could get rebounds.

I want them, and ESPN, and the media.. to say "We only lost because of Zion!". Because at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. Kentucky missed out on two titles because of injuries, and no on cared then.
 
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It definitely seems fishy, but Zion is this whole new animal. The pub he gets and the focus of the world on him (At least ESPN) probably does give rat boy a little pressure he's not used to. Hell the NBA came out right after this injury and announced the rule change. Coach rat knows if he throws Zion out there and something happens that even he will not be above the **** storm that would follow. I assume he is being over cautious which is something new for him and only because he is under the biggest microscope ever. I think the kid has shown enough and time to get ready for the NBA LOL. Honestly, though I think he plays, but it won't be until he is 110% good to go.
 

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Zion will absolutely be back playing. That injury happened less than a week ago. I’d say he’ll probably miss the weekend game and come back next week, or a week from Saturday.
 
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It definitely seems fishy, but Zion is this whole new animal. The pub he gets and the focus of the world on him (At least ESPN) probably does give rat boy a little pressure he's not used to. Hell the NBA came out right after this injury and announced the rule change. Coach rat knows if he throws Zion out there and something happens that even he will not be above the **** storm that would follow. I assume he is being over cautious which is something new for him and only because he is under the biggest microscope ever. I think the kid has shown enough and time to get ready for the NBA LOL. Honestly, though I think he plays, but it won't be until he is 110% good to go.

That's my exact thought. He will play, and when he does, Duke will say he was cleared to play 2 games earlier but Saint K wanted to be cautious.
 
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There’s nothing fishy about missing a week or two with a sprained knee. We have a guy on our roster going through the same thing. Why in the world is it fishy?
 

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No way in hell that happens. He will be back soon. The kid isn't going to miss a chance to win a title, IMO. I don't think there is anyway he doesn't come back. Why would he not?

Because his momma and daddy don't want to take the chance on another injury to their meal ticket, or on him looking weakened by this one. They couldn't care less at this point whether Duke wins the championship. He's the #1 pick in the NBA draft right now, why mess with that?
 
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Because his momma and daddy don't want to take the chance on another injury to their meal ticket, or on him looking weakened by this one. They couldn't care less at this point whether Duke wins the championship. He's the #1 pick in the NBA draft right now, why mess with that?

I bet he plays. Why **** on his family? I don’t understand this.
 

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It’s Zion and his family’s decision.

If it were my son, I’m going to first make sure he’s as healthy as he was before the injury. If he is, then at that point it’s completely up to my son. If he’s not as healthy then I’m stepping in.

The coach isn’t going to have much of a say either way. If my son is back to being healthy and wants to play but the coach takes my kid’s choice and dream away, then we are going to have a big time issue.
 
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It's perfect for Duke because if they get beat they just blame it on him being out. He will prob come back for the ACC tourny.
 

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Its kind of sad how many are really hoping Zion is finished. The kid is going to play. Accept that and move on. Missing a few games with his injury is to be fully expected.
 

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I have a strong feeling he plays vs Miami next week
Its kind of sad how many are really hoping Zion is finished. The kid is going to play. Accept that and move on. Missing a few games with his injury is to be fully expected.
I hope 100% that he doesn't play again, I don't hope he is hurt but I just hope between the knee tweak and all the $$$ on the table in a few months he don't play again.
Guess what, I don't feel bad AT ALL. It improves UK's chances at a title and that is all I care about.
 
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I would say he is back for the UNC game. K will want to prove the first game was a fluke so there will be no doubt who the #1 team is.

Remember, it's all about K and Duke NOT the player, even if it's the greatest player ever, Zion.:D
 
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At least you are honest about it Fitch . Others are being disingenuous about there reasons lol. Duke has a knee protocol and he has to pass 4 stages in his recovery to be cleared . He is getting better but not ready yet . It has not even been a week and the timeline on this injury is a week to 2 weeks . I suspect he will be back Sunday or the next game after .
 

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I would say he is back for the UNC game. K will want to prove the first game was a fluke so there will be no doubt who the #1 team is.

Remember, it's all about K and Duke NOT the player, even if it's the greatest player ever, Zion.:D
I don't know there is a chance the lose with him at 100%, why not just not play him and the committee will assume they would have beaten UNC!
 
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I don't know there is a chance the lose with him at 100%, why not just not play him and the committee will assume they would have beaten UNC!

Because K's ego won't allow him to sit Zion if it means losing the top spot. It's all about K, ALWAYS!!!
 

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Because K's ego won't allow him to sit Zion if it means losing the top spot. It's all about K, ALWAYS!!!
If Duke loses that game the ACC tourny is going to be huge, the winner prob gets the East. What the hell do you with the UNC if they win out?
 

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I don’t want Zion to play because he was a bought player, he was being shopped as proof by the FBI investigation that wiretapped the Kansas assistant Townsend being informed.

Teams shouldn’t benefit from buying recruits and common sense would inform anyone that if Kansas was told Zion was for sale then the Williamson’s didn’t suddenly lower the price to free.
 

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Everyone should already know how this will go. K is never under any pressure when it comes to how he manages his teams and players, and right now he is. He’s going to be careful, but he will play Zion eventually and no one will stop him. I can’t even see Zions dad stopping it.

This is why these players are stupid for allowing Nike to push them to a guy like K. He has too much control over his program and K doesn’t care about a players NBA goals. It’s just not a good idea.


I don't think there is any reason for him not to come back. There really isnt any injury that is going to
Because his momma and daddy don't want to take the chance on another injury to their meal ticket, or on him looking weakened by this one. They couldn't care less at this point whether Duke wins the championship. He's the #1 pick in the NBA draft right now, why mess with that?


Assuming that his knee is fully healthy, there isn't a reason for him not to play. The fear of him getting hurt badly enough to effect his career is ridiculous and completely absurd. If thats the case, then RJ should shut it down as well, Morant as Murray and so on and so on. There isn't an injury that would effect his stock, he is going to be the #1 or #2 pick regardless. There is no real risk.
 
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If Duke loses that game the ACC tourny is going to be huge, the winner prob gets the East. What the hell do you with the UNC if they win out?

I definitely think that UNC could steal the #1 from Duke or UVA if they win out. Would the NCAA be brazen enough to give 3 #1 seeds to the ACC?

That's why it is REALLY important for our team to win out or at least not lose until the SEC Championship game to secure a 1 seed. If not, we probably end up the #2 against either UNC or Duke.
 
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VT is better than the Cuse. Dook could very well drop this one. Of course, I know it will not count. Can you imagine if they did drop some more games and Zion really didn't come back? (I know he is) The dookies would go from top of the world ma to rot roh. The joy that would bring to my heart LMFAO.
 

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It’s Zion and his family’s decision.

If it were my son, I’m going to first make sure he’s as healthy as he was before the injury. If he is, then at that point it’s completely up to my son. If he’s not as healthy then I’m stepping in.

The coach isn’t going to have much of a say either way. If my son is back to being healthy and wants to play but the coach takes my kid’s choice and dream away, then we are going to have a big time issue.

Coach K will try and have say. It’s why I don’t know why any parent of Zions caliber would take a risk by playing for him. K is not the best in the business handling these guys. He’s a known system guy. There’s plenty of past evidence to show it.

If I had been Zions dad I would have told Nike no, that K isn’t a good fit. I wouldn’t want to work around him to make sure my son was 100%. And regardless of what you believe personally, K is risky for guys like Zion, Barrett, Giles ect.

If Zion plays and snaps something, K will be finished landing guys like that. Have fun watching.
 

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I definitely think that UNC could steal the #1 from Duke or UVA if they win out. Would the NCAA be brazen enough to give 3 #1 seeds to the ACC?

That's why it is REALLY important for our team to win out or at least not lose until the SEC Championship game to secure a 1 seed. If not, we probably end up the #2 against either UNC or Duke.
If UNC beats Duke 3 times in a month then knocks off UVA they will be a 1! UK versus UNC in the South? I'll take it.
 

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I tweaked a hamstring today running...I may be out for a few days.

Now look, I'm pretty sure that eSpN will have a story about it pretty soon but I didn't want anyone to worry.

 
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The only thing suspect is the kid coming off redshirt to play, which I still think was a dumb move. They didn’t need baker to beat Syracuse even if jack white has sucked recently. Zion will play again he wants to win a title and be that once in a generation player like melo or Davis that won a title and went on to the nba. I think Barrett maybe thebetter of the two in the nba, but you take Zion 1.
 

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VT is better than the Cuse. Dook could very well drop this one. Of course, I know it will not count. Can you imagine if they did drop some more games and Zion really didn't come back? (I know he is) The dookies would go from top of the world ma to rot roh. The joy that would bring to my heart LMFAO.

If Va tech had their starting PG I feel like Tech wins but without him I don’t think they have a chance even without Zion.

But I also told you that the Cats would struggle w/o Reid against AU and we see how that turned out.
 
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He'll be back by the ACCT at the latest. Might be limited minutes, but I don't believe for a second his season is over.
 

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He'll be back. Duke sat on his MRI results for hours so it could be breaking news on the 6 p.m. Sportscenter. They'll orchestrate something similar with this. Everyone will be wondering what he's going to do, they'll let the anticipation build up, then Zion will break Twitter with a "THESEQUEL" tweet, all of ESPN will ejaculate, and it will be inescapable ZION FEVER heading into the NCAA tournament. Mark it down.
 

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Coach K will try and have say. It’s why I don’t know why any parent of Zions caliber would take a risk by playing for him. K is not the best in the business handling these guys. He’s a known system guy. There’s plenty of past evidence to show it.

If I had been Zions dad I would have told Nike no, that K isn’t a good fit. I wouldn’t want to work around him to make sure my son was 100%. And regardless of what you believe personally, K is risky for guys like Zion, Barrett, Giles ect.

If Zion plays and snaps something, K will be finished landing guys like that. Have fun watching.

So EVERYBODY else is wrong and you’re right? Meaning, every time I turn around, kids and pros not only have no qualms about playing for K, it’s widely recommended. Zion to Duke was probably one of the best decisions he and his family made in his young career.
 

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So EVERYBODY else is wrong and you’re right? Meaning, every time I turn around, kids and pros not only have no qualms about playing for K, it’s widely recommended. Zion to Duke was probably one of the best decisions he and his family made in his young career.

Zion could’ve went anywhere and it would’ve been one of his best decisions. The kid is one of a kind and doesn’t matter where he went cuz he is going #1 regardless.

Now why don’t you turn around and ask Bolden if going to Duke was the best decision of his young career?

#1 center coming out of HS and he is still at Puke 3 years later lol
 

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Zion could’ve went anywhere and it would’ve been one of his best decisions. The kid is one of a kind and doesn’t matter where he went cuz he is going #1 regardless.

Now why don’t you turn around and ask Bolden if going to Duke was the best decision of his young career?

#1 center coming out of HS and he is still at Puke 3 years later lol

And who was the kid whose mom said K was nasty to them as if they were questioning him? And then there's also Trent. Duke fans are shameless trash that turn their back to all of K's disgusting actions.
 

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And who was the kid whose mom said K was nasty to them as if they were questioning him? And then there's also Trent. Duke fans are shameless trash that turn their back to all of K's disgusting actions.

Semi Ojeleye, kid who transferred to SMU? Wendell Carter’s mom had some words about K, Trevon Duvall has choice words about Puke and Thornton, who is at USC now didn’t they have lil fall out with K and Puke?

At least kids that transfer/go pro from UK don’t leave on bad terms and have negative words about Cal and UK.
 
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So EVERYBODY else is wrong and you’re right? Meaning, every time I turn around, kids and pros not only have no qualms about playing for K, it’s widely recommended. Zion to Duke was probably one of the best decisions he and his family made in his young career.
Yeah right so he wouldn't have done the exact same thing at UK. We are already better than a Dook team without Zion and who knows with. So if we had Zion we would probably be undefeated and you guys wouldn't even be close to us like we are now to you with him.
 
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