Zion declared out tomorrow

[BassProCat]

False, Barrett and Nas Little were higher projected draft picks than Zion before the season started I believe.

I wish Zion was at UK but he's milked as much as one possibly can out of Duke and Nike.

So your telling me if Zion doesn’t go to Puke then he wouldn’t be doing the things he is doing now?

Zion is doing the same things he did in HS and would be doing the same thing in a Clemson Jersey.

And who gives a **** about predictions before the first game is played? If predictions held true 100% then why even play the season...teams and players should just be awarded trophies and awards in Oct then and NBA teams should draft players before the season started.

Imagine a team drafting Little before Zion.

 

[Cardsstink]

False, Barrett and Nas Little were higher projected draft picks than Zion before the season started I believe.

I wish Zion was at UK but he's milked as much as one possibly can out of Duke and Nike.

Odd timing for 1st post. What was your old name?

 

[Cardsstink]

I wonder if Little would look more NBA ready at another program besides UNCheat where they don't feature their OADs.

He made a huge mistake going to that cesspool!

You sound like a UNCheat fan that hates Duke, hence you pounced on the chance to say your UNC boy was rated higher than Zion....

 

[morgousky]

So EVERYBODY else is wrong and you’re right? Meaning, every time I turn around, kids and pros not only have no qualms about playing for K, it’s widely recommended. Zion to Duke was probably one of the best decisions he and his family made in his young career.

The media covers for Duke. Players who never played for him cover for K. Players that are 4 year guys have nothing to do with the conversation. Cal has never had a single player come out and complain about the way they were handled, the way they were treated when the wanted to declare, or the way they had to approach Cal carefully because they wanted to pursue their NBA goals.

Coach K lies to players routinely and it’s well known. I can bet you right now Reddish wouldn’t be at Duke if he had though K was going to get a reclass and throw Zion behind him. K sold Reddish on being his centerpiece knowing full well it was BS.

Your boy said, ONE day before the major story broke, that he knows NOTHING about dirty inside dealing in college basketball. He said that’s not what’s going on. He’s a liar, and it’s easily proven.

The truth is, you root for a team that is involved in players on the take. Barrett is dirty. Zion is dirty. Anything you get with them is void, just like UNC after their scandal was uncovered.

What’s funny is it’s predictable. The bad apples are always the ones projected with a clean image. The fact is Duke is the whitest blue blood there is, private school, with the hatchet man coach, they present them as the morality program and what’s right with college basketball. The NCAA aid terrified of professionalism. A good clean Duke makes it appear as it’s about education. While Duke is one of the dirtiest programs in america. Jalen started to sound the alarm on Duke and the NCAA but wanted to maintain his job.

Cal made them sell out to win, because other than Duke needing them, and probably more importantly, it kept Cal from landing Barrett, Zion, Reddish, Winslow, Parker ect. That’s the best part for Duke and the NCAA. It tempered Cal because he was about to take K’s legacy and put it in the trash where it belongs.

You root for a pitiful program. Duke needs to be cleaned up just like Kansas, UNC, and Louisville. And anything you say to avoid that reality is moot.

 

[Duke Bluu]

The media covers for Duke. Players who never played for him cover for K. Players that are 4 year guys have nothing to do with the conversation. Cal has never had a single player come out and complain about the way they were handled, the way they were treated when the wanted to declare, or the way they had to approach Cal carefully because they wanted to pursue their NBA goals.

Coach K lies to players routinely and it’s well known. I can bet you right now Reddish wouldn’t be at Duke if he had though K was going to get a reclass and throw Zion behind him. K sold Reddish on being his centerpiece knowing full well it was BS.

Your boy said, ONE day before the major story broke, that he knows NOTHING about dirty inside dealing in college basketball. He said that’s not what’s going on. He’s a liar, and it’s easily proven.

The truth is, you root for a team that is involved in players on the take. Barrett is dirty. Zion is dirty. Anything you get with them is void, just like UNC after their scandal was uncovered.

What’s funny is it’s predictable. The bad apples are always the ones projected with a clean image. The fact is Duke is the whitest blue blood there is, private school, with the hatchet man coach, they present them as the morality program and what’s right with college basketball. The NCAA aid terrified of professionalism. A good clean Duke makes it appear as it’s about education. While Duke is one of the dirtiest programs in america. Jalen started to sound the alarm on Duke and the NCAA but wanted to maintain his job.

Cal made them sell out to win, because other than Duke needing them, and probably more importantly, it kept Cal from landing Barrett, Zion, Reddish, Winslow, Parker ect. That’s the best part for Duke and the NCAA. It tempered Cal because he was about to take K’s legacy and put it in the trash where it belongs.

You root for a pitiful program. Duke needs to be cleaned up just like Kansas, UNC, and Louisville. And anything you say to avoid that reality is moot.

I read your whole post. Lots of belief and speculation. I will wait until the proof. Anything as extreme as you’ve just presented, cannot and will not stay covered up for long.

 

[morgousky]

I read your whole post. Lots of belief and speculation. I will wait until the proof. Anything as extreme as you’ve just presented, cannot and will not stay covered up for long.

You know a lot of it is probably true, even though you’re not going to admit it.

Duke makes aaaaaallllll sorts of people look like frauds. I’ll leave it at that.

 

[Jpthegame]

The media covers for Duke. Players who never played for him cover for K. Players that are 4 year guys have nothing to do with the conversation. Cal has never had a single player come out and complain about the way they were handled, the way they were treated when the wanted to declare, or the way they had to approach Cal carefully because they wanted to pursue their NBA goals.

Coach K lies to players routinely and it’s well known. I can bet you right now Reddish wouldn’t be at Duke if he had though K was going to get a reclass and throw Zion behind him. K sold Reddish on being his centerpiece knowing full well it was BS.

Your boy said, ONE day before the major story broke, that he knows NOTHING about dirty inside dealing in college basketball. He said that’s not what’s going on. He’s a liar, and it’s easily proven.

The truth is, you root for a team that is involved in players on the take. Barrett is dirty. Zion is dirty. Anything you get with them is void, just like UNC after their scandal was uncovered.

What’s funny is it’s predictable. The bad apples are always the ones projected with a clean image. The fact is Duke is the whitest blue blood there is, private school, with the hatchet man coach, they present them as the morality program and what’s right with college basketball. The NCAA aid terrified of professionalism. A good clean Duke makes it appear as it’s about education. While Duke is one of the dirtiest programs in america. Jalen started to sound the alarm on Duke and the NCAA but wanted to maintain his job.

Cal made them sell out to win, because other than Duke needing them, and probably more importantly, it kept Cal from landing Barrett, Zion, Reddish, Winslow, Parker ect. That’s the best part for Duke and the NCAA. It tempered Cal because he was about to take K’s legacy and put it in the trash where it belongs.

You root for a pitiful program. Duke needs to be cleaned up just like Kansas, UNC, and Louisville. And anything you say to avoid that reality is moot.

I like this trick, “it’s well known, it’s easily proven, the truth is, the fact is...” and yet, not a single piece of evidence is offered.

 

[morgousky]

I like this trick, “it’s well known, it’s easily proven, the truth is, the fact is...” and yet, not a single piece of evidence is offered.

Yes, it is easily proven that K lied about not knowing how college basketball is dirty. There’s more than enough proof of that. He’s a liar. Sorry the ESPN image isn’t real. Duke fans are some of the dumbest people on planet earth. You guys are so brainwashed you don’t even realize you debate things that aren’t debatable.

 

[DidneyWorl]

Yes, it is easily proven that K lied about not knowing how college basketball is dirty. There’s more than enough proof of that. He’s a liar. Sorry the ESPN image isn’t real. Duke fans are some of the dumbest people on planet earth. You guys are so brainwashed you don’t even realize you debate things that aren’t debatable.

K is the reincarnation of Hitler

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Also.. For anyone who plays fantasy basketball and keeps an eye on injury reports.. Being ruled out an entire 36 hours in advanced usually means a player isn't all that close to coming back. Unless this was predetermined ahead of time.. I would guess Zion is out another week at least.

When players are on the verge of coming back, it's normally a game time decision.

 

[Crawfords Corner]

Duke isn't dirty? The NCAA doesn't cover for them? Explain Maggette and Lance Thomas. I'll wait. Then there is the really serious stuff. Sulaimon ring a bell. The same **** going on at Kansas. Whatever it takes to win no matter the cost or who gets hurt. Lets not forget the anonymous Dukie rapist a story broke out on a week or two ago.

 

[Fitch44]

Shiteshefski is responsible for earthquakes, terrorism and Aids.

 

[Crawfords Corner]

Shiteshefski is responsible for earthquakes, terrorism and Aids.

Now you're just being silly.:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

 

[gwjenning]

Who gives a ****? When will Reid Travis be back is my only concern about a college bb player out with a knee injury!!!!!!

 

[Jpthegame]

Yes, it is easily proven that K lied about not knowing how college basketball is dirty. There’s more than enough proof of that. He’s a liar. Sorry the ESPN image isn’t real. Duke fans are some of the dumbest people on planet earth. You guys are so brainwashed you don’t even realize you debate things that aren’t debatable.

Easily proven yet still no evidence of this or your other 3 opinions that you presented as fact.
Look, I think this is the steroid era. It’s rampant and it obvious that most people (and ALL of the big boys, don’t kid yourself) are gaining advantages. But that word proof comes with a burden and you haven’t satisfied that just by saying so.

 

[Jpthegame]

Duke isn't dirty? The NCAA doesn't cover for them? Explain Maggette and Lance Thomas. I'll wait. Then there is the really serious stuff. Sulaimon ring a bell. The same **** going on at Kansas. Whatever it takes to win no matter the cost or who gets hurt. Lets not forget the anonymous Dukie rapist a story broke out on a week or two ago.

Let’s also not forget the Duke lacrosse case which taught most people that acting like you know, when you only just think, is a very dangerous thing.

 

[Crawfords Corner]

Let’s also not forget the Duke lacrosse case which taught most people that acting like you know, when you only just think, is a very dangerous thing.

Nope. Wrong answer. Easy copout. What was expected.

 

[DidneyWorl]

Shiteshefski is responsible for Aids.

I actually believe this. April 24th, 1980. Ken Horne was the first person diagnosed with "AIDs".

What year did K become coach of Duke? 1980.

What's the connection between K and Ken Horne?

 

[EliteBlue]

If Va tech had their starting PG I feel like Tech wins but without him I don’t think they have a chance even without Zion.

But I also told you that the Cats would struggle w/o Reid against AU and we see how that turned out.

VT has played about 9 games without him and they are hovering around .500 since the injury. Doesn’t bode well. I think your initial assumption is right.

 

[BassProCat]

VT has played about 9 games without him and they are hovering around .500 since the injury. Doesn’t bode well. I think your initial assumption is right.

Justin Robinson I think his name is but kid is a ball player, plays hard as hell I like him as a player and obviously a vital part to their success cuz they have been mediocre w/o like you stated hovering around .500.

 

[deep3]

The media covers for Duke. Players who never played for him cover for K. Players that are 4 year guys have nothing to do with the conversation. Cal has never had a single player come out and complain about the way they were handled, the way they were treated when the wanted to declare, or the way they had to approach Cal carefully because they wanted to pursue their NBA goals.

Coach K lies to players routinely and it’s well known. I can bet you right now Reddish wouldn’t be at Duke if he had though K was going to get a reclass and throw Zion behind him. K sold Reddish on being his centerpiece knowing full well it was BS.

Your boy said, ONE day before the major story broke, that he knows NOTHING about dirty inside dealing in college basketball. He said that’s not what’s going on. He’s a liar, and it’s easily proven.

The truth is, you root for a team that is involved in players on the take. Barrett is dirty. Zion is dirty. Anything you get with them is void, just like UNC after their scandal was uncovered.

What’s funny is it’s predictable. The bad apples are always the ones projected with a clean image. The fact is Duke is the whitest blue blood there is, private school, with the hatchet man coach, they present them as the morality program and what’s right with college basketball. The NCAA aid terrified of professionalism. A good clean Duke makes it appear as it’s about education. While Duke is one of the dirtiest programs in america. Jalen started to sound the alarm on Duke and the NCAA but wanted to maintain his job.

Cal made them sell out to win, because other than Duke needing them, and probably more importantly, it kept Cal from landing Barrett, Zion, Reddish, Winslow, Parker ect. That’s the best part for Duke and the NCAA. It tempered Cal because he was about to take K’s legacy and put it in the trash where it belongs.

You root for a pitiful program. Duke needs to be cleaned up just like Kansas, UNC, and Louisville. And anything you say to avoid that reality is moot.

This is absolutely spot on. Well done. I refer to Duke as the Elitist Deep State of hoops, wanting everyone to believe they are pure. Media coverage of them tells you everything you need to know versus the coverage of others including us, we are the great unwashed fans versus the Elitists.

 

[Duke Bluu]

I got hit with a lot of responses so I will try to cover everything here:

1. Yes, I believe numerous players have been compensated at Duke, and Or before they arrived at Duke by someone.

2. Yes, I believe Duke does get treated differently. I do believe there is preferential treatment to a degree.

3. No, I don’t believe Duke or K is as clean as is often portrayed by the media. Duke is very smart it it’s branding and marketing. And I’m proud of it.

4. No. I don’t believe there has been any rape coverups.

5. While Magette and Thomas can certainly be viewed as having received preferential treatment from the NCAA, I don’t think those incidents reflect poorly on Duke. Those two incidents as alleged can happen anywhere and to me aren’t a reflection of how dirty a school is.

With all of that said, I think some of the allegations posted here are outright preposterous. But I get where I am so I understand.

 

[Jpthegame]

Nope. Wrong answer. Easy copout. What was expected.

So convict without proof? Solid position to take.
Don’t forget there have been some very loud whispers about Cal over the years and uk fans have always (rightfully) pointed to the absence of hard evidence as a reason to dismiss those concerns and support your guys. The least you could do is be consistent and return the favor.

 

[Crawfords Corner]

So convict without proof? Solid position to take.
Don’t forget there have been some very loud whispers about Cal over the years and uk fans have always (rightfully) pointed to the absence of hard evidence as a reason to dismiss those concerns and support your guys. The least you could do is be consistent and return the favor.

Cal has never had a rape victim. We now have a 2nd sexual assault under your coach's regime. I don't believe in coincidence. You can hide behind "proof". I go by character. All the stuff adds up for 1 coach. Meanwhile, the other coach has several swept under the rug examples under him.

 

[Duke Bluu]

Cal has never had a rape victim. We now have a 2nd sexual assault under your coach's regime. I don't believe in coincidence. You can hide behind "proof". I go by character. All the stuff adds up for 1 coach. Meanwhile, the other coach has several swept under the rug examples under him.

This is what I’m talking about smh

 

[CatfanMike47]

I got hit with a lot of responses so I will try to cover everything here:

1. Yes, I believe numerous players have been compensated at Duke, and Or before they arrived at Duke by someone.

2. Yes, I believe Duke does get treated differently. I do believe there is preferential treatment to a degree.

3. No, I don’t believe Duke or K is as clean as is often portrayed by the media. Duke is very smart it it’s branding and marketing. And I’m proud of it.

4. No. I don’t believe there has been any rape coverups.

5. While Magette and Thomas can certainly be viewed as having received preferential treatment from the NCAA, I don’t think those incidents reflect poorly on Duke. Those two incidents as alleged can happen anywhere and to me aren’t a reflection of how dirty a school is.

With all of that said, I think some of the allegations posted here are outright preposterous. But I get where I am so I understand.

Truth hurts doesn’t it !

 

[Duke Bluu]

Truth hurts doesn’t it !

Doesn’t hurt at all.

 

[deep3]

So convict without proof? Solid position to take.
Don’t forget there have been some very loud whispers about Cal over the years and uk fans have always (rightfully) pointed to the absence of hard evidence as a reason to dismiss those concerns and support your guys. The least you could do is be consistent and return the favor.

For the Duke posters here fair question you think Bill Maher roots for Duke or Kentucky? Watch the tourney draw this thing is already set for a Duke coronation mark it down media bigs won’t allow any other outcome, bunch of hypocrites, it’s flat disgusting m. There days coming however, karmas a *****

 

[Crawfords Corner]

What penalty did UNC because of "proof"?

 

[Cardsstink]

I actually believe this. April 24th, 1980. Ken Horne was the first person diagnosed with "AIDs".

What year did K become coach of Duke? 1980.

What's the connection between K and Ken Horne?

K banged Ken to celebrate the new gig? Seems extremely plausible.

 

[Crawfords Corner]

This is what I’m talking about smh

Of course its what you're talking about. You allow the wool to be pulled over your eyes. You accept it because integrity isn't as important to you as winning.

 

[CatScratchFever88]

Zion ain’t playing again this year unless he doesn’t have half a brain

 

[CatScratchFever88]

I hope 100% that he doesn't play again, I don't hope he is hurt but I just hope between the knee tweak and all the $$$ on the table in a few months he don't play again.
Guess what, I don't feel bad AT ALL. It improves UK's chances at a title and that is all I care about.

That’s right. And K don’t have any leverage here it’s totally Zions decision because he’s gone in six weeks

 

[minjo]

He done.

He just done, or done done?:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

 

[UK2kats]

Sorry to be long winded....

I would bet that the latest we see Zion out is the finals of the ACC Tournament.

Here is why: If the injury diagnosis is confirmed and correct, he physcially should be good in two weeks max (depending on severity of the impact to Zion). He has nothing left to gain by playing the rest of the regular season, other than potentially losing a seed (doubt K will allow that because we know the rest of the games wouldn’t count in the selection if they knew Zion would return by Tournament time)

Therefore, he comes back to play in the ACC Championship, with so much pressure from his teammates and K simultaneously, his families drive to keep him out will be silenced. He balls out, they win on momentum alone if anything, selection committee gives them the last #1 seed and it becomes the biggest hype train ever leading into his pro career and probably takes that $80 Million from Nike and makes it $100 Million.

Then UK beats them in the Championship by 90...Go Cats!

 

[Jpthegame]

Cal has never had a rape victim. We now have a 2nd sexual assault under your coach's regime. I don't believe in coincidence. You can hide behind "proof". I go by character. All the stuff adds up for 1 coach. Meanwhile, the other coach has several swept under the rug examples under him.

Oh wow, 2 rape convictions. Weird I didn’t see anything about that. Could it be because you’re talking about 2 rape accusations? Big difference and I know you wouldnt want to confuse the two. Otherwise people could just accuse you of anything and “poof” you’d be guilty.

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

I like this trick, “it’s well known, it’s easily proven, the truth is, the fact is...” and yet, not a single piece of evidence is offered.

Good to see you're finally discussing hoops and not only here to correct UK fans of their Duke takes.

Oh wait...

 

[Cindog28]

https://www.goupstate.com/news/20180121/zion-williamson-says-choosing-duke-was-business-decision


Zion Williamson says choosing Duke was a ‘business decision’

Posted Jan 21, 2018

Zion Williamson simplistically revealed the cold, hard truth about the current culture of collegiate basketball recruiting where players of his caliber rarely stay at any school for more than one season.

It’s not usually shocking when a blue-chip star chooses blueblood Duke, but there was an element of surprise to the Spartanburg Day School superstar’s announcement Saturday night the Blue Devils had won the drama-filled sweepstakes for his services.

Clemson had been the assumed leader to land the consensus top-3 player in the nation. His stepfather, Lee Anderson (who played there), told Tigernet.com he informed Clemson coaches a few nights ago, “Somewhere along the way, you all had a mile-and-a-half lead on the situation. I don’t know what happened along the way, but you all had a big distance.”

When asked if it would be difficult speaking to the coaches who came up short in the recruiting process after attempting to build a winning bond with the 17-year-old, Williamson responded he didn’t think so.

“In the end, this is a business. People don’t really care about your feelings. They can always go find somebody else. This is a business decision and I felt this was the best place for me.”

“When Coach K came to my house and spoke to me and my family, it wasn’t just about basketball and what he could do for me in one year,” Williamson said.“It was how he can build Zion as a brand on and off the court for like the next 20 years or the rest of my life.”

 

[CatfanMike47]

Ugh

 

[morgousky]

Easily proven yet still no evidence of this or your other 3 opinions that you presented as fact.
Look, I think this is the steroid era. It’s rampant and it obvious that most people (and ALL of the big boys, don’t kid yourself) are gaining advantages. But that word proof comes with a burden and you haven’t satisfied that just by saying so.

Your ability to contextualize what you’re reading is what’s really scary.

You are debating something I didn’t say had proof. However.

Coach K DID LIE bold faced when asked about the scandal a day before the main story broke. His response was totally laughable and an outright lie.

Coach K has been in bed with guys like Myron Piggie. He’s had issues he’s seen up close and personal. His current lineup has two players that are in the back pocket of a shoe company. But he doesn’t know about that? He’s a liar. Stop denying it, it only makes you look foolish.

And no, not everyone is caught up in it. Only programs that were offering, like Arizona. Or Kansas. Or Duke.

Kentucky’s name hasn’t really come up in this at all. These players had a reason to play at UK, they have no reason at all to play for K.

You can wait for K to admit he’s dirty. I’ll just go ahead and know it like everyone that’s not a Duke fan.