Plus this paying back only after getting caught to remedy the situation is bull ****. if that is the case, UK could pay everyone, then when caught, kid just pays money back, no harm, no foul. Tell the kid "hey keep that coin stashed, in case you get caught, you can pay it back, then we will give it back after the fire dies down." If he loaned / paid $12500 for a move before Wiseman committed to Memphis or hell after for that matter, Memphis is touched. Wiseman might as well go on and hire a trainer and get ready for the league.
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Duh, loan, wink wink. Loan to never have to pay back, or pay it back when you can AKA, never. makes it look better.
Also should anyone question Cal ever again? I mean he had to know something was up here.
maybe Wiseman threw the "hey coach is need some scratch to move" line to Cal.
Just came across the screen that he can still play despite the ruling. Makes no sense..The shine is already off the new Penny..LOL
The NCAA hasn't said that, a local county judge did. We'll see who wins.
Cal warned us all.
He said villages would burn if people came at him and his.
Penny is in ashes now, and it's frickin beautiful. [laughing]
He said villages would burn if people came at him and his.
Penny is in ashes now, and it's frickin beautiful. [laughing]
NCAA rules ineligible but a Memphis judges ordered a stay(how convenient) for tonight’s game. They are working to restore it permanently.
Penny should have done the right thing for the kid and had him come here. Same with Cade’s brother.
Irrelevant under the Cam Newton rule.
well penny is done. you get caught like this you’ll be run off.
I'm glad this stuff happens.
I likewise hope Oklahoma State goes down in flames this year as well.
I likewise hope Oklahoma State goes down in flames this year as well.
He may not be done, but all his scheming and planning regarding Wiseman just went down like the Titanic in the cold Atlantic ocean.
so how many top recruits does this make, that have taken us to the last minute (not receiving cash) only to make a head scratching move elsewhere?
Lol Penny is going to do the best thing for PENNY. Big time coaching is like politics. The coach will throw your *** under the bus every time to save himself
if there is evidence that you took part in paying a player, you’d have to think he’s getting canned. the ncaa still hasn’t come forth with their laundry list of punishments for other guilty parties. since they promise it’s coming i’ll wait to see what the new “rules” are when/if there’s no development.
How in the hell can he get a restraining order and get to play? That makes zero sense. lol is the restraining order against the ncaa? Like, the judge is telling the NCAA to stay 100 feet away from Wiseman? What a load of crap.
People defending Memphis on Twitter claiming $12K is no big deal.
I agree, $12K is no big deal if that is all it was.
But it wasn't. It was $12K from Penny. The same Penny who coached him in HS/AAU, was a Memphis booster and recruited him to play at Memphis. Pretty sure that is a definitive recruiting violation.
How did they not know this was going to happen?
Penny should wake up jobless when this is all said and done.
I agree, $12K is no big deal if that is all it was.
But it wasn't. It was $12K from Penny. The same Penny who coached him in HS/AAU, was a Memphis booster and recruited him to play at Memphis. Pretty sure that is a definitive recruiting violation.
How did they not know this was going to happen?
Penny should wake up jobless when this is all said and done.
The resolution is obvious. This isn't about Wiseman. It is about Memphis and Penny. Wiseman can play. He just can't play at Memphis. That is not a draconian ruling. He can play at literally any other school, just not the school whose coach paid his family. Honestly, it is messed up that Memphis/Penny misled Wiseman and his family into thinking they could get him eligible at Memphis (not just eligible generally), and it also looks like Memphis/Penny withheld critical information from the NCAA, which could lead to other problems.
I doubt Memphis would get rid of Penny. Kind of like UL and Pitino. They know Penny is their best hope back to Calipari day glory.
Couldn't agree more. If Penny was a stand up guy that really cared about Wiseman he would have told him to go play for UK and Cal because they've been recruiting you forever and it is in your best interest. He didn't though...
Everyone at Ensworth where he played in Nashville, as well as friends and area coaches knew that Penny orchestrated the whole deal. Once Penny got him to Memphis the Memphis coaching job was a given. Also the TSSAA knew all this but still ruled him eligible when he shouldn’t have been. There was tampering and the move from Ensworth and Nashville to Memphis was a tampering move by his AAU (high school) coach Penny H. It wreaked from day one. He should have been ineligible in high school but the TSSAA got a lot of pressure and dropped the ball.
So, technically, if Wiseman cannot play, does the #1 Recruiting Class ranking change?
Maybe they should have hired his brother, uncle, father, brother-in-law...ect...ect..
Hey jace2012, thanks for the reply brother. Yeah I know what you mean, I just don’t think The kid had anything to do with the cheating part. I’m sure he just wanted to play ball with his friends. Now I do agree with you about Penny. He knew what he was doing the whole time. Saw this young man was going to be a superstar and was going to do anything he could to get his hands in there.
As for the parents, no doubt they’re just like anyone that’s new to all this and was trusting in the big Pro Penny. It’s messed up with all of it really. I just hate for someone to take advantage of a young Kid. I stand by letting him play with his team. Even if they haft to hire another coach!! That’s not going to happen of course, but we never know I guess. Honestly, they should just let him pick another school and play this year. Lol.
Now if James was the one who took money and knew about all that was going on, he should be punished to. Not the whole season though. I don’t know really what I’d do. Rules are Rules of course, but like when Kanter was here, sometimes the rules aren’t as clear cut. Again, I just hate seeing a young man like that get F’ed over by a bunch of adults.
A line must be drawn or the adults will prey off the kids "ignorance" to do whatever they want. It sucks for the kid but actions have consequences.