Will BR Clock LWE to Open?

4Afan

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Have you looked at their team???

they are absolutely stacked

brother Rice is going to upset a lot of teams this year
Like who? They'll be favored in every game except MC.

They're a great team, but they had it pretty easy last year. They only had 39 playoff points and 9 of those came from MC. That means their remaining 8 opponents averaged under 4 wins.

As someone else said previously, they're not on the same level as MC and haven't earned national recognition just yet.
 

WIU@78

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For you historians LWE has never lost to Brother Rice. Coach Zvonar is starting his final season at the helm. The offense for the Griffins will be just fine with a new coordinator taking over for Coach P who has retired.
 

WIU@78

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Based on how Lincoln-Way Central played at Rita… I think the Crusaders will have a challenge.
 

Illinifan1971

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I don’t want to say it…

the reality with East is that their schedules are incredibly padded… it is like that almost every single year.

They face teams that have lost before the bus even pulls up to the school.

the minute that they get a little push back, they don’t know how to dig in and recover
i am far from someone who love LWE but….

East plays a tougher schedule then 97% of the state but no one wants to give them credit because they are a public school not to mention most of the time schedules are agreed upon a couple years out

you control 2 games….most teams refuse to play east since they know its a loss…

they have played maine south, kankakee, batavia, stevenson, crete monee…. Not sure who else they need to schedule lol

And swsc is probably the best public school conference but thats a whole seperate conversation people dont want to have
 
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Topiarydan1

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i am far from someone who love LWE but….

East plays a tougher schedule then 97% of the state but no one wants to give them credit because they are a public school not to mention most of the time schedules are agreed upon a couple years out

you control 2 games….most teams refuse to play east since they know its a loss…

they have played maine south, kankakee, batavia, stevenson, crete monee…. Not sure who else they need to schedule lol

And swsc is probably the best public school conference but thats a whole seperate conversation people dont want to have
As I mentioned earlier in this thread - first games both teams will be rusty. LWE has a lot of depth and I believe 2 D1 players among their Seniors. They'll be playing at home and it'll be a tough game. I think Rice pulls it out 28-17
 
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BR just got some more line help courtesy of DePaul....do they have enough players to field a team at DePaul? I have never heard of this player but he claims to be the #13 ranked OL in IL by some mystery publication.
 

LWN_Pheonix

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Isn’t this something that everyone already knew was happening?
Brother Rice has done really well in the transfer portal
 

UsuallyRight57

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This game will end up like MC ESTL a few years back week 1. I expect Rice to be very undisciplined this year and have a lot of bonehead penalties. Cargo shorts won’t have control of the circus week 1. I expect LWE to out coach them, be the more disciplined team, and win the turnover battle. This will be a very low scoring game. Yes we know the weapons rice has. But I feel like they have more questions marks then east has across the board. Win or lose both teams will be better off for playing this game as their season progresses.
 

eagles2k3!

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Did LWE find a Qb in the portal?
Word on the street is some LWE people connected to the program tried to get a stud from up north but the family told them to cut it out or they would report them to the IHSA.
 

WIU@78

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Irony of scheduling for the two pre con games. Complaints about LWE playing “soft” for these two season openers over the years. Didn’t BR also play Crete-Monee for the non cons? Or did this not count as Rice wasn’t relevant then?
 

Cross Bones

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Irony of scheduling for the two pre con games. Complaints about LWE playing “soft” for these two season openers over the years. Didn’t BR also play Crete-Monee for the non cons? Or did this not count as Rice wasn’t relevant then?
I recommended improving the non con games due to the decline (and departure) in Brook and HF. At one point in time that was enough to prep for whatever youd see in the playoffs. Its just not the case anymore and I dont think LWC, LWW, Bradley, and Sandburg reach that level. Lockport has shown they can, but we just never know when.
 
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SiuCubFan8

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I recommended improving the non con games due to the decline (and departure) in Brook and HF. At one point in time that was enough to prep for whatever youd see in the playoffs. Its just not the case anymore and I dont think LWC, LWW, Bradley, and Sandburg reach that level. Lockport has shown they can, but we just never know when.
LP hasn't shown they can prep LWE, they have gotten rolled basically every year in the past 6-7 minus one close game.
And I want LP to compete year in year out with them, trust me. But they have not show that at all.
 

Cross Bones

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LP hasn't shown they can prep LWE, they have gotten rolled basically every year in the past 6-7 minus one close game.
And I want LP to compete year in year out with them, trust me. But they have not show that at all.
But they have won multiple 8A championships. In fact more than anyone not named Loyola or Maine South and as many as LWE. We just dont know when it'll, like 2021.
 

SiuCubFan8

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But they have won multiple 8A championships. In fact more than anyone not named Loyola or Maine South and as many as LWE. We just dont know when it'll, like 2021.
Sure, but they aren’t prepping LWE right now. The scores tell the story.
 

johnndoe

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I recommended improving the non con games due to the decline (and departure) in Brook and HF. At one point in time that was enough to prep for whatever youd see in the playoffs. Its just not the case anymore and I dont think LWC, LWW, Bradley, and Sandburg reach that level. Lockport has shown they can, but we just never know when.
The carry-over effect of tough non-cons in Weeks 1 & 2 may be further diminished for those teams idled for an extra week due to qualifying for the bye in the playoffs. These squads potentially face 2+ months between their biggest tests.
 

Illinifan1971

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Think people forget teams have to agree to play most teams dont agree to play East.

East already plays harder non-cons then 90% of the state…
 

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It will be interesting to see how life after one of the most dynamic players we have seen goes this year. The first 5 games are not gimmies. I don't expect more than maybe 1 loss but I will be keeping an eye on the scores. Will we see LWE with a bunch of blowouts like in the past?
BR - Talented bunch
Kankakee - Does lose some talent but still always tough.
H-F - Always talent in the building.
B-B - Seems to always upset someone. at LWE so that helps.
Sandberg - Seems to be getting stronger.
 

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So you are thinking the Griffins of LWE will make the playoffs and continuing the string of being playoff worthy every year of their existence is possible? Coach Zvonar has built with a strong supporting staff a nice little program.
 

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For you historians LWE has never lost to Brother Rice. Coach Zvonar is starting his final season at the helm. The offense for the Griffins will be just fine with a new coordinator taking over for Coach P who has retired.

Is Zvonar actually retiring after 2026 or is this all speculation?
 

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So you are thinking the Griffins of LWE will make the playoffs and continuing the string of being playoff worthy every year of their existence is possible? Coach Zvonar has built with a strong supporting staff a nice little program.
I wrote what I was thinking.
 

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So you are thinking the Griffins of LWE will make the playoffs and continuing the string of being playoff worthy every year of their existence is possible? Coach Zvonar has built with a strong supporting staff a nice little program.
Only need like 3 wins to make playoffs now so id certainly hope so
 
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I wrote what I was thinking.
I agree with all you said as well SIU. The program will remain even after the retirement year of Coach Z. I am amused with the doomsday prophets ( not you ) who extrapolate the losses last year to an evolution. The O was designed around Jonas and in his absence it was difficult to bounce back. Unfortunately a healthy Jonas was not in the cards for 2/3 of last year. This years O calls will be wildly different compared to the last two seasons in Frankfort. Coach Pallissard retired after last season as well. Time will tell.
 

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I agree with all you said as well SIU. The program will remain even after the retirement year of Coach Z. I am amused with the doomsday prophets ( not you ) who extrapolate the losses last year to an evolution. The O was designed around Jonas and in his absence it was difficult to bounce back. Unfortunately a healthy Jonas was not in the cards for 2/3 of last year. This years O calls will be wildly different compared to the last two seasons in Frankfort. Coach Pallissard retired after last season as well. Time will tell.
The right coach matters whoever follows coach Z has some BIG shoes to fill, programs dont just stay intact if the right coaches arent there
 

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The right coach matters whoever follows coach Z has some BIG shoes to fill, programs dont just stay intact if the right coaches arent there
I believe his successor has already been named and he was a former Coach who took over TF North and now is back and will take the reigns next year. Personally I thought it would be a more extensive search with some big names being interested in taking the reigns of a program like this but if know who you want, go get him and they apparently did.
 

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LWE will not get destroyed at home, especially in week one. I do not think they will win but they won't get clocked, and they most certainly will cross the 50. BR has an excellent team with some big names on defense but they have shoes to fill too. They have a new QB, slated starter has had mop up duty only and while he has a nice arm he's 5'9 tops unless he had late growth spurt. His backup is JD McCoy clone freshman and he has not played in a HS game yet and LWE on the road isn't a good welcome game.

BR has good, not great receivers. They have a big TE with a world of potential but didn't have big numbers last year sharing the field with a senior TE.

Their line is DePauls line from last year for the most part, well 2 or possibly 3 starters, and DePaul wasn't good last year playing in a division three notch's below the Blue. Not saying they don't have talent but they Blue is a big upgrade talent wise and LWE never has a bad Dline or LBs.

I like BR by 14, possibly more but it would come with a late score but I like LWE to stay within range for a few quarters.
 

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I agree with all you said as well SIU. The program will remain even after the retirement year of Coach Z. I am amused with the doomsday prophets ( not you ) who extrapolate the losses last year to an evolution. The O was designed around Jonas and in his absence it was difficult to bounce back. Unfortunately a healthy Jonas was not in the cards for 2/3 of last year. This years O calls will be wildly different compared to the last two seasons in Frankfort. Coach Pallissard retired after last season as well. Time will tell.
Good deal. Thanks for clarification.
 

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The right coach matters whoever follows coach Z has some BIG shoes to fill, programs dont just stay intact if the right coaches arent there
Two southwest and south suburban examples come to mind from recent years and you can fill-in-the-Xs: LEXXXX & HX. No disrespect intended to either program and the high bars still trying to be reached at both places.
 

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Can you really call a QB that played on 2 teams ranked within the states top 5 each year and never even made it to the state championship game… the states best QB ever???

Incredibly padded schedule - check
Benefitted from recruiting - check

statistically he may hold some records, but to power rank him as the states all time best QB… come on

what Brasic did at Riverside Brookfield was much more impressive… but also didn’t win a state title
 

SiuCubFan8

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Can you really call a QB that played on 2 teams ranked within the states top 5 each year and never even made it to the state championship game… the states best QB ever???

Incredibly padded schedule - check
Benefitted from recruiting - check

statistically he may hold some records, but to power rank him as the states all time best QB… come on

what Brasic did at Riverside Brookfield was much more impressive… but also didn’t win a state title
All you had to do was see him play live, it was different.
 
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