Made my girls bundle up for that - spitting rain. They hated me but we got a lot of hot chocolate/.
What did we learn week 2!?!?
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GW only had week 1 for a possible non conference game for the last 40 years and 30 of those they played WWS. Since that series ended they have scheduled great programs like Maine South, Bolingbrook and Marist. Next year and into the future they will have more flexibility with the conference eliminating mandatory crossovers. I think we will see not only GW but most of the Silver picking up challenging games.
The Black Cat dominated that game. Probably the most impressive individual performance I have seen at Duchon.
There is only so much "they just reload" that can happen at a mid-sized public school. They will always be a good team because their system and the quality of coaching, but they graduated practically EVERYBODY, and that's not easy to recover from in one year. Since that is a closed conference, I'm very curious to see how that plays in the postseason. Will any be serious contenders?
It’s a good point you make and the answer is yes I think you could have a number of serious contenders. Right now Huntley, Jacobs, PR and CLS all look like teams that could make runs
For those who don't get out of Chicagoland very much ... CBC lost to ESL last season week one and then went undefeated on their way to a state championship. They have won 4 state championships since 2014. I think they can hang in Illinois no prob.
They lost to ESL by 4 points last year, this year they lost by 45. Two completely different things. Based on this week's result, I have a hard time believing they would hang with LWE, MC, LA and maybe a few others this season.
Oh so now we're talking just this season since those 3 are really good? How would they have fared last season?
Yes, I am talking about this season. The title of the thread is "Things we learned in week 2", not how historically good a program is. Based on week 2, we learned that CBC could not hang with the top teams in Illinois.
why don’t those teams play estl then? they don’t want to see them in august that’s a fact!
To be fair, last 2x ESL played MC the Caravan came out on top. In the playoffs. Then they went on to lose to the runners up in the semifinals both times.
I have no idea why they haven't played. And you know for a fact that these schools don't want to play ESL? Where did you get your info? Have you talked to the schools in question? This year alone, LWE played Batavia, LA played St X, MC played SR and MS played Warren in August. Those schools are not ducking teams.
Yah cause Cary Grove sure didn’t want to play them in November - oh wait.Unless you can provide some sort of credible email or text explicitly stating that Loyola or LWE or Warren or Maine South or MC or anyone said no thank you we are frightened to play you. Then sit in the back of the damn class and let the adults sort this out - and stop hijacking’s my damn thread!
ahhh yes ur so smart by ignoring me saying august, if you don’t think there’s a difference between football and November and august , they still don’t schedule estl and won’t in non conference games …
Teams win games in August teams win championships in November. Hot damn, you’re right! There is a difference between November and August games.
why are you and everyone ignoring my point ab august.. different football is played in november
and congratulations chicago prep schools when you beat a public school it should feel great! you should feel so accomplished
hot damn in august in illinois it isn’t 28 degrees, oh and congratulations you celebrate chicago prep schools beaten public schools !! wohooo!!
Why does almost every thread get taken over by ESTL talks? They are a great program, fantastic! I feel for the kids of the community that have to grow up in those 89 blocks. They get to travel out of state to play games....big deal...sometimes that means they only have to cross a river.
Here are some questions I have for ESTL fans?
1. How many players have you had in the NFL in the last 10 years?
2. What does Coach Sunkett do to promote education in the community?
3. After watching 89 blocks how was #4 academically eligible to play?
4. Where do all the funds for travel come from? Dont tell me Nike. That is not the case.
5. Of the scholarship athletes that go off to play college football, what is their graduation rate?
Can we please stop talking about your National schedule? That isnt about the kids. Its about the adults and their egos.
Here are some questions I have for ESTL fans?
1. How many players have you had in the NFL in the last 10 years?
2. What does Coach Sunkett do to promote education in the community?
3. After watching 89 blocks how was #4 academically eligible to play?
4. Where do all the funds for travel come from? Dont tell me Nike. That is not the case.
5. Of the scholarship athletes that go off to play college football, what is their graduation rate?
Can we please stop talking about your National schedule? That isnt about the kids. Its about the adults and their egos.
What are you talking about? Those games give kids exposure which leads to scholarship offers.
Boosters and fundraising like every other team.
17. Proviso West is 2-0
18. Stagg is 2-0. Coach is fantastic motivator and they have a skinny, slinger junior QB that can run and pass. Meat grinder of a conference is ahead.
18. Stagg is 2-0. Coach is fantastic motivator and they have a skinny, slinger junior QB that can run and pass. Meat grinder of a conference is ahead.
Answering 3 first, which happened some time ago, lessons can be learned.
I will say most Flyers use the same stock info for their recruiting social media to include GPA:
East Saint Louis Flyers . Class of 2023 height : 6’5 weight : 315 gpa 3.0 2019 Illinois Class 6A STATE CHAMPION ,4 ,email ~[email protected]
My new name is just the facts.
Playoffs are more pivotal. Hopefully we do get a ESL/LWE or LA matchup. ESL may have to approach the conference about letting them opt up into 8A so they can get these matchups and schools can't hide.
Hang with who? Not 7A or 8A. Quit making excuses. They got whooped by ESL and I don’t think they hang with LA, LWE or MC. IMO
I also don’t think the hang with JCA, Batavia, Bolingbrook, MS, Warren etc. stop it already.
PS: I don’t care what they did last year.
How true! ESL's staff will schedule tough OOS teams during the season, but post-season they go for the lower levels. Of course, it's their conference's fault.
I've watched CBC somewhat regularly over the past several years and they are a really good program. My opinion is that they can hang with the elite of Illinois, however I can't think of any particular year that I would have favored them to win a championship in Illinois. They've been able to win championships in Missouri, which demands respect, but as I've stated on these forums in the past, Illinois high school football is far more competitive than Missouri and going through the playoff brackets in Illinois is much more difficult, particularly in the larger classes. Not saying that CBC absolutely couldn't win a state championship in Illinois or beat some of the elite teams, but generally speaking, I wouldn't favor CBC over the likes of LWE, MC and LA, especially during the playoffs.
Is it beyond the realm of possible, that ESL is that good this year? But that does not even register as possible to some whose egos are so fragile.
Do u think they are 45 points better than the other top teams in Illinois like they were vs CBC? Fragile ego? That could be suggested both ways.
Yes, it's quite possible. In fact, I believe it's likely. Look at the early returns. They played the #3 team in the country extremely close in Week 1, then manhandled a very good CBC team. Seems like this year's version of the Flyers has a much better defense than last year. No Luther this year, but the overall team may be better. And the QB is in year 3 as a starter, which is a very important.
I don’t think the schools hide. If the big schools are playing schools highly ranked they are not hiding. I don’t believe any of them are hiding. Their must be a reason but being scared isn’t a reason. 6A CC showed everyone that’s not the case.
We’re back to rankings. IMO the #3 team isn’t really the #3 team. Time will tell if they we’re correctly ranked? I lot of these teams including ESL are highly ranked because they play other teams out of state. Essentially they get ranked because the exposure. No disrespect to ESL because they are willing to travel to fill their schedule. If you travel you might as well play good teams. They show they can play with some of the top teams in the country. IMO LA, MC LWE and some others can also play with anyone in the country. ESL is good and they are showing the country they are good. The other teams mentioned haven’t been as vocal by scheduling out of state teams. Except LA who just pasted SX Ohio. No one saw that coming on ESPN. Very little talking about it, yet it happened and yes they won big.
Illinois has some really good HS football teams that can play with any team in the country. ESL just happens to be the school stepping out in the spot light. I give them big time props but we do have other schools that can play the game of football at a very high level.
It’s high school football. Everything is week to week and game to game. What a team do this week they may not do next. The same team that lost this week may beat the same team later in the year. It’s HIGH SCHOOL football.
Thank you for highlighting this. I knew him way before his high school years or with the Fighting Illini. I actually knew him back 90-94 when he was running around my practice fields. Really happy to see the family tradition continue. I have a lot of respect for what his Dad did for me in my 4 years of HS. I'll def be following EP going forward.
1. NFL is a short career. Several have received spots however, I am not sure what that has to do with High School. The goal is a shot a college to give them a shot a life. NFL is only the goal of individuals and their families.
2. He coaches football and with over 20 players currently playing college ball on scholarship, things are working just fine.
3. because he did his school work. 89 blocks was a season long converted into one hour. The same kid was academically eligible to play at Miami until he opted for the draft 3 years later.
4. People will pay to see you play. Any team willing to travel can. It’s nothing special about ESL and traveling. It’s 5 hours to some places in Illinois. They will always need to travel to play at a certain level. They are not located in Chicago. OOS teams pay you to travel, Illinois schools won’t. They do a home and home.
5. As of last year, it was 87%. Not too bad if you ask me.
How does playing out ot state against highly ranked opponents feed an ego? Your pay won’t increase and you most likely don’t have the resources to be highly successful.
In conclusion it’s not everyone’s cup of tea, however, it should never be perceived as a negative. Experiences will go a long way for these young men.
#?. That after getting whacked by her all-time rival on Dante Ave, underdog St. Rita showed some grit by gritting out a narrow victory against another big rival in a hard-hitting and tough game. On to Rambler.
Like I said, they can hang with any program in Illinois.
Okay LHS, now you are confusing him by throwing around FACTS. He's just another one of those dudes who watched 89 Blocks and thinks that makes him an expert on Flyer Football lmao!