"I said to the staff before the game that I hope he goes big because we needed to win."
Were these words actually uttered?
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Sure he said that. That is the reason why he didn't put him in the game until nearly half time, LOL. He will say just about anything. The man has no shame.
I would have to see tape on that one.
Awful convenient. But, I like that he’s now either willing or being forced to acknowledge what many here have said all along—Allen needs to play at the expense of other more highly rated players time.
FTR—I hate pat on the back posts. I never claimed Allen was a stud but I saw many on here do so and they deserve credit.
Awful convenient. But, I like that he’s now either willing or being forced to acknowledge what many here have said all along—Allen needs to play at the expense of other more highly rated players time.
FTR—I hate pat on the back posts. I never claimed Allen was a stud but I saw many on here do so and they deserve credit.
Don't worry Stevie Wonder didn't see it either.
Just teasing
Hopefully Allen will get the playing time he deserves. Cal needs to let him play through his mistakes. Allen is going to be a huge Asset to this team down the road.
It's ok. Hell I started a pat on the back thread for all of us questioning Cal's rotation. I normally wouldn't do that, but after all the junk some people were dumping on Allen... yeah I made one.
I’m not sure that was said or not but you’re being disingenuous here. Allen checked in first with about 12:30 left in the first half when he almost immediately hit a 3. I’m almost certain he was subbed in at least 3 times in the first half. He had made his 2nd 3 pointer prior to Cal getting ejected. Cal was playing him and all of you strange folks that think he doesn’t want Dontaie to be good so he can play Boston and Clarke more are insane. Would Cal have benched Boston like Bruiser did? I doubt it, but to say Allen didn’t get in until nearly halftime is absolute horse pucky.
Yes i see him as darius miller type if it was not for him we would not have won in 2012 was miller time when he checked in
Time to be fair to Cal. He did insert Allen early in the first half . And yes he would have stuck with Boston but he knows we cannot win an SEC championship without getting Clarke and Boston performing as well. Allen is not going to get 15-20 every game.
Cal has always played his nba talent ahead of more deserving players. He did it just last year (Whitney over IQ) and he's done it all this year. Boston and Clarke have struggled, yet Cal has continued to start them and play them 35+ mpg. I mean, Boston is shooting 15% from 3 and has a fg % around 35. Do you mean to tell me that Allen would ever sniff the court if he shot like that?
At other programs, Clarke and Boston would get 15 minutes a game playing the way they are. The juniors and seniors would be the ones out there, but not here, not where the NBA draft is more important than winning games.
Allen didn't just learn how to shoot on Friday, the kid averaged… .AVERAGED 42ppg in HS. You don't average 42ppg if you are an okay player, no, you are an elite scorer when you average that much.
We struggle to reach 65ppg as a team. Boston and Clarke can't hit the broad side of a barn, but an elite scorer sat on the bench. Some games he never got a single second of pt, one game he got in for 20 seconds.
2 + 2 = 4. It's that simple. We struggle to score, you have two guys that can't score, in the game, but you have an elite scorer on the bench. Here's a hint… .pull the two brick layers and put the elite scorer in. Voila, problem solved.
Why exactly is this in reply to my post? I made no statement on being for or against a certain strategy and simply pointed out actual facts.
Agreed, but there has to be a balance. Clarke and Boston are getting 35 mpg and Allen went several games without even getting a minute, yet we strughled to reach 65ppg.
There is a way to get Clarke & Boston going, but still win games. Instead, Cal let these guys come in and be volumn shooters. Yeah, Boston got 14ppg, but he shot the ball 22 times to get that.
There were many games where it was clear that Boston was killing us with his AAU brick ball, but Cal kept him in. We lost several games that way.
We would have won the ND, UNC, UL and KU games if Cal pulled out the brick layers and put in guys that could score. This isn't 1985, in 2020, offense is what wins games.
Because you made a comment towards those of us that have been clamoring for Boston to sit and Allen to play.
I don't believe anyone said Cal didn't want Allen to be good, those are your words, but he most certainly played his failing draft picks over Allen while telling Allen he had to earn his pt. Well, what did Boston and Clarke do to earn their 35mpg?
His strategy is simple to understand and I can’t figure out why this board doesn’t get it.
He plays freshman that, with heavy minutes, will outperform other players given the same number of minutes at the END of the season, often at the cost of early performance and yes, even wins.
He’s pretty good at ascertaining which players will be the best by seasons end but he doesn’t always get it right.
And you must not have read the board much if you missed the constant posts about Cal being pissed in the locker room every time Allen scored and how he was going to have to stick it to the fans and not play him even more now to prove a point that he was right about Boston and Clarke.
Cal may not always play the player that is best right now but he doesn’t actively hope his bench performs poorly, fact.
He will if you run good set plays for him to get open looks...just like every other good team does with an elite shooter
I bet Cal was gritting his teeth with every 3 pointer Allen hit.
Yes he uttered them instead of just saying man I was wrong it’s quite obvious Dontai should’ve been playing but the man can just not admit he was wrong
If we didn't have an NBA first culture, we wouldn't have to play unskilled freshmen "until they get it" or "they have to be allowed to miss shots"
"I thought it was unfair to play him in the 2nd half since I didn't play him in the first half" like… .what?
Simply put, we are 2-6 (came dangerously close to 1-7) because Cal has to get his nba draft kids going. At any other program, they would sit until they performed in a manner that is best for the team to get wins.
I'm on this board every day, I've never seen a post where someone said Cal played Boston just to keep Allen from breaking out, maybe someone did say that, but I doubt many agreed with him. That's not something that has been stated very often on here, but way to cherry pick.
Dude there is one in this thread lol.
Once again, I never even said whether or not I agree with the strategy just that warping reality to suit a narrative that Cal wants his bench to be poor so he can play his highly touted freshmen is way off base. We’ve seen it with Whitney, Cal knew after ample opportunities it just wasn’t going to happen for him so he went away from him.
It’s fine to disagree with a strategy but to say utter bologna is distasteful.
How many more are there? Obviously I missed the one in this thread. Who said it?
Some posts are extremely long, I don't read every word in every post.
I’m not going to go back through threads as I don’t have the time to waste on that, but as I recall I had seen 15-20 separate instances insisting that Cal is doing this for reasons other than at the end of the season putting the best roster on the floor. Again his strategy has to do with giving players with the most upside the most minutes to get them experience, not spiting the fans, players from KY, playing favorites or any of the other conspiracy theories going around.
I totally understand disagreeing with or plain hating that strategy but argue the strategy not conspiracies.
You’ve really been a killing machine with these memes the last few years. Keep running wild with them and continue to deliver the goods.
Maybe it's time for Clarke and Boston to earn playing time. Seriously, it might take some pressure off Boston for him to come off the bench until he gets going.
That’s quite a self-serving comment to make right AFTER you’ve just seeing the kid hit seven threes and lead us to the win. “Hmm, how can I give myself credit for this...”
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We won guys and gals and DA was the star of the game. Ease up on Cal and give your hate a day off to rest.
How do you know this? I don't think he is trying to spite the fans but you are wrong about his strategy.
I will never ease up on Cal till he puts the program over his inflated ego of putting kids in the NBA. In other words, when Cal starts changing his failed strategy to something more sustainable, I will ease up.
I personally liked, “When I got ejected, I knew this was going to be a good thing or a bad thing.”
If DA gets the pt how do you know he couldn't go for 15 a game? Only pt and letting him play comfortably can determine that. I think he could easily do that.
While I don’t think this has even been officially declared as the strategy, I think it’s fairly obvious based on seeing the course of the last 10 seasons though. Considering Occam’s razor, it’s certainly more plausible than the other theories out there.
The only way it’s not obvious is if one is so jaded by his strategy that the vilification of Cal must be clear so inventing malicious intent is preferred.
This, people need to temper their enthusiasm. Yes he had a big game, but he can just as easily come out against Vandy and go 1-11 from three point range. We need to be patient. He’s got a lot of potential and showed he knows how to get open, but he’s not going to replicate that game very often.
Whatever, Cal. Pretty sure he only put Allen in hoping that he fail so the fans would shut up. Kinda backfired.
I am sure that is why he put him in. Makes total sense. He recruited him so that he could put him in, hoping that he'd fail...bingo.
Well, why recruit a kid if you're not gonna play him?