We win easy next year...

Truehuskerfan

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if you look back at the posts before we started the season .. 6-6 was supposed to be a major disappointment this year ...
Actually no. Lots of people picked 6-6. I don't remember anybody saying 6-6 would be a major disappointment for Frost's first year.
 
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WuTang_Husker

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Highly doubtful. Offense will be fine. Defense will still be mediocre at best.

Exactly, defense didn't improve one bit this year. They were almost constantly out schemed when it mattered and it doesn't matter what kind of talent you bring in if they are put in bad situations they will bleed yards and points and that was the story this year.

It's not like we are bringing in 5 star talent that can cover up bad scheme to a certain extent so all this wishful thinking about the defense being better next year is just that and nothing more.

This defense is so readable it's laughable. It's schoolyard garbage.
 

o_Hit

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Doubtful.

So since you are closer to the program than the rest of us... you dont think our young talent progresses a bunch going into year 2? Another year is the weight program wont help our players at all? Playing at home wont make it easier for us?
 

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There are no guarantees. If Martinez goes down I have very little faith our back up QB can beat a Big 10 team.
 

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There are no guarantees. If Martinez goes down I have very little faith our back up QB can beat a Big 10 team.
This is a seriously lame argument. The vast majority of teams are in trouble if their starting QB goes down. It's not like he's shown a propensity to be injured. Take away one dirty play by a Colorado player, and he made it through the entire season unscathed.
 
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I love how one can assume, 12 months out, that you'll win a game easily, or win the game at all. There is literally an infinite amount of things that could happen between now and then.

I agree with your general sentiment, but I think you might not understand the meaning of the words literally and infinite. Because literally, there is no way an infinite amount of things could happen between now and then.
 

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So since you are closer to the program than the rest of us... you dont think our young talent progresses a bunch going into year 2? Another year is the weight program wont help our players at all? Playing at home wont make it easier for us?

Your thread title says “ we win easy next year.” Yes the offense will be better, we finally have a kicker we can count on but our defense is just not good. Defense wins championships and at this time I just don’t think we have the horses on that side of the ball.

Right now our defense will keep every opponent in the game. We need to make huge upgrades in talent to beat the better teams. Just rewatch the first half at how Iowa ran the ball with ease and we couldn’t stop them. Until we can stop the run nothing will come easy.

Just my 2 cents amigo.
 

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If I were Iowa I would be worried that they pretty much controlled most of the game physically and time of possession, but still only able to win by a last second field goal.
.....aaaaaand this is why I’m made at Kirk Ferentz even after a win. Iowa goes up 31-13 at minimum and this isn’t the calling card for the next year. I don’t think this game has any influence on next seasons game. Iowa got blasted at Penn State three years ago and then lost on a last second TD the following season. Games don’t mean squat when projecting to next season.
 

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.....aaaaaand this is why I’m made at Kirk Ferentz even after a win. Iowa goes up 31-13 at minimum and this isn’t the calling card for the next year. I don’t think this game has any influence on next seasons game. Iowa got blasted at Penn State three years ago and then lost on a last second TD the following season. Games don’t mean squat when projecting to next season.
There's something I don't get here. All the Iowa fans angry at Kirk Ferentz for almost blowing the game-and then not mentioning that as a factor in the future. Well, isn't he going to be the coach next year? I mean, if he's so bad that he makes stupid calls to almost blow a winnable game, couldn't he do it again? Frost vs Ferentz, I'll take Frost.
 

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Exactly, defense didn't improve one bit this year. They were almost constantly out schemed when it mattered and it doesn't matter what kind of talent you bring in if they are put in bad situations they will bleed yards and points and that was the story this year.

It's not like we are bringing in 5 star talent that can cover up bad scheme to a certain extent so all this wishful thinking about the defense being better next year is just that and nothing more.

This defense is so readable it's laughable. It's schoolyard garbage.
I don't think you watched the same defense. Better tackling more pass breakups never I'll say never quit playing hard
 

o_Hit

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Your thread title says “ we win easy next year.” Yes the offense will be better, we finally have a kicker we can count on but our defense is just not good. Defense wins championships and at this time I just don’t think we have the horses on that side of the ball.

Right now our defense will keep every opponent in the game. We need to make huge upgrades in talent to beat the better teams. Just rewatch the first half at how Iowa ran the ball with ease and we couldn’t stop them. Until we can stop the run nothing will come easy.

Just my 2 cents amigo.

2 questions before I respond. Which of our current D commits will be here in the spring? Are any of them currently out with season ending injuries?
 

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This is a seriously lame argument. The vast majority of teams are in trouble if their starting QB goes down. It's not like he's shown a propensity to be injured. Take away one dirty play by a Colorado player, and he made it through the entire season unscathed.

Did our back up make the plays against Colorado and Troy? And didn’t particularly look good against Bethune. You sir take your lame comment and shove it up yours.
 

Truehuskerfan

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Did our back up make the plays against Colorado and Troy? And didn’t particularly look good against Bethune. You sir take your lame comment and shove it up yours.
You completely missed the point. As I said above(if you had bothered to read it), it's a lame argument because the vast majority of teams are in trouble if their starting QB goes down. It's not something unique to us. Has Martinez showed a propensity to be injured? No. Isn't it just as possible that any of our opponents at any time could have their starting QB injured? Yes. Wouldn't most of them be in trouble if they lost their starting QB? Yes. So why is that some kind of big factor for us, but not for other teams? Nobody worth anything makes predictions based on what if a key player gets injured.
 

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This game was basically a glimpse into the future of how next year will go. I wouldn't expect next year's team to perform at a significantly higher level than this year's did post-Northwestern. We'll beat up on teams we should but games like today's won't ever be easy.
 

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You completely missed the point. As I said above(if you had bothered to read it), it's a lame argument because the vast majority of teams are in trouble if their starting QB goes down. It's not something unique to us. Has Martinez showed a propensity to be injured? No. Isn't it just as possible that any of our opponents at any time could have their starting QB injured? Yes. Wouldn't most of them be in trouble if they lost their starting QB? Yes. So why is that some kind of big factor for us, but not for other teams? Nobody worth anything makes predictions based on what if a key player gets injured.

Ok I see what you’re saying. Wisconsin has won games with their backup, not sure about Iowa. Where I’m coming from is that the sunshine pumpers always hype up our team and we always tend to underachieve and fall below expectations. Most had us winning 7-8 games this year.. my approach is that we need to be a very solid unit all across the board (only as strong as your weakest link) to win against the big boys. Plus, we tend to draw bad luck.
 

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Ok I see what you’re saying. Wisconsin has won games with their backup, not sure about Iowa. Where I’m coming from is that the sunshine pumpers always hype up our team and we always tend to underachieve and fall below expectations. Most had us winning 7-8 games this year.. my approach is that we need to be a very solid unit all across the board (only as strong as your weakest link) to win against the big boys. Plus, we tend to draw bad luck.
Well, do you believe in Frost or not? Do you think at some point he can meet or exceed expectations where other coaches have fallen short? I am sick and tired of people cheering Frost and talking about how great he is and how great he's going to be for the program-and showing absolutely no faith in him when you predict the future. Why the disconnect? Do people believe in him or not?
 
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Well, do you believe in Frost or not? Do you think at some point he can meet or exceed expectations where other coaches have fallen short? I am sick and tired of people cheering Frost and talking about how great he is and how great he's going to be for the program-and showing absolutely no faith in him when you predict the future. Why the disconnect? Do people believe in him or not?

Absolutely believe in Frost. The title of this thread says we win easy and my answers reflect my opinion that there are no easy wins. We’re not yet there. Will take 2 more years to be able to play and WIN against the big boys. If we make major strides during this off-season then we’ll have a chance for a 9-10 win season next year. But my trust in Frost has never wavered. There are no shortcuts to success. We’ll get there eventually
 

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Congrats on next year. You guys will play great, and unfortunately we just won’t have it that day. Maybe we’ll get you back in 2020.
 

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We held them to only 7 points the entire 2nd half until their winning FG. Our D basically owned them the majority of the 2nd half after they scored their last TD The majority of all of their production came in the 1st half and they had the short field on their last TD early in the second half. I challenge you to go back and watch the game, if you don't believe me. We had the ball longer than they did in the 2nd half as well and their D was getting worn down as they were on the field quite a bit longer than ours was the last half of the game. The key of the game after Herkie's botched FG attempt which gave us the momentum was Martinez Int as that cost us 3-7 points that would've been a guarantee had he not thrown it, because the rate we were moving the ball on them was getting easier and easier. With a FG at least, their game winning FG would have been to tie us sending the game into OT which we would've won as at the end of the game, their D was running on fumes. Iowa is feeling very lucky they got out of there with a win.
 
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I’ll be honest, both fakes weren’t a good idea.

Correct. More understandable from Nebraska's perspective. Iowa's decision had me pissed.

FWIW, this is the first time Nebraska players didn't quit in this game in quite some time. I'd take that as a positive if I was a Nebraska fan, and it cannot be overstated.
 

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Martinez is bigger than most running backs. I love when people say this. He may get hurt...it won’t be because he’s a Qb. The kid is huge.
Yes, however we can’t bank on that. RB making it through 12 games is rare. AM is a potential Heisman candidate if he grows as a QB(he will) and stays healthy
 

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Yes, however we can’t bank on that. RB making it through 12 games is rare. AM is a potential Heisman candidate if he grows as a QB(he will) and stays healthy
Potential is a large word in this context. Heisman winners require winning games as well. Do you see them winning 9+ games throughout the next 3 years? I think it’s very possible. Just hard to say he’ll be a Heisman candidate IMO
 

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Come on man, this "guys fought hard" is getting old. It means nothing. We need start getting these wins. It may very well come next year, but this D needs to drastically improve if much is going to change next year. If you are happy with a fought hard type of team. Iowa is who you should be rooting for.

I would expect this type of post if it were year 3 or 4 of Frosts coaching regime, not in year one. This is just as bad of a take as you can get. There was a reason Vegas had our Over and Under wins at 5 this year.
For the love of god, Iowa beat us in LINCOLN last year by 42 points. Yet they needed a last second field goal on us this year 1st year under Frost at HOME to beat us. Hey, if you want to be a Debbie downer that is up to you, but if you are not smart enough to realize the ground we made up in just one year, then...maybe sit out a little bit from posting to gain some better perspective cause your perspective is just not correct right now.

Our coaches inherited a very poorly conditioned team this year with a LOT of holes in it. They said upfront it would take 2-3 years just to get the strength and conditioning up to the level they wanted. Yet despite that we took tOSU, NW and Iowa to the wire ALL ON THE ROAD, in year 1. tOSU and Iowa blew the doors off us last year in Lincoln, yet struggled to beat us this year at their places.

But if you cant see any progress in that, well then there is really no hope for you.
 

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I would expect this type of post if it were year 3 or 4 of Frosts coaching regime, not in year one. This is just as bad of a take as you can get. There was a reason Vegas had our Over and Under wins at 5 this year.
For the love of god, Iowa beat us in LINCOLN last year by 42 points. Yet they needed a last second field goal on us this year 1st year under Frost at HOME to beat us. Hey, if you want to be a Debbie downer that is up to you, but if you are not smart enough to realize the ground we made up in just one year, then...maybe sit out a little bit from posting to gain some better perspective cause your perspective is just not correct right now.

Our coaches inherited a very poorly conditioned team this year with a LOT of holes in it. They said upfront it would take 2-3 years just to get the strength and conditioning up to the level they wanted. Yet despite that we took tOSU, NW and Iowa to the wire ALL ON THE ROAD, in year 1. tOSU and Iowa blew the doors off us last year in Lincoln, yet struggled to beat us this year at their places.

But if you cant see any progress in that, well then there is really no hope for you.

Heh, no doubt what-so-ever that in year one Frost & staff showed MASSIVE improvement from the horrible Smiling Mike mess. Sure, we've still got a long, long ways to go.....but we're already 10,000 country miles better than we were a year ago.
 
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I would expect this type of post if it were year 3 or 4 of Frosts coaching regime, not in year one. This is just as bad of a take as you can get. There was a reason Vegas had our Over and Under wins at 5 this year.
For the love of god, Iowa beat us in LINCOLN last year by 42 points. Yet they needed a last second field goal on us this year 1st year under Frost at HOME to beat us. Hey, if you want to be a Debbie downer that is up to you, but if you are not smart enough to realize the ground we made up in just one year, then...maybe sit out a little bit from posting to gain some better perspective cause your perspective is just not correct right now.

Our coaches inherited a very poorly conditioned team this year with a LOT of holes in it. They said upfront it would take 2-3 years just to get the strength and conditioning up to the level they wanted. Yet despite that we took tOSU, NW and Iowa to the wire ALL ON THE ROAD, in year 1. tOSU and Iowa blew the doors off us last year in Lincoln, yet struggled to beat us this year at their places.

But if you cant see any progress in that, well then there is really no hope for you.
I get it, I do. I understand the mess Frost got handed to him. My point was, "we tried hard" has been the rallying cry for the last 15 years. Enough is enough with that type of talk. The coaches don't have it, it took most of the year to get it out of the players. Now the fans need to be done with it too.
 

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So since you are closer to the program than the rest of us... you dont think our young talent progresses a bunch going into year 2? Another year is the weight program wont help our players at all? Playing at home wont make it easier for us?

You could say the same for them. They already have the s&c edge, will have another year in the weight room, and their talent will progress too. It's not like everybody else stays the same while Nebraska gets better. Next year's game will be tough.
 

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You completely missed the point. As I said above(if you had bothered to read it), it's a lame argument because the vast majority of teams are in trouble if their starting QB goes down. It's not something unique to us. Has Martinez showed a propensity to be injured? No. Isn't it just as possible that any of our opponents at any time could have their starting QB injured? Yes. Wouldn't most of them be in trouble if they lost their starting QB? Yes. So why is that some kind of big factor for us, but not for other teams? Nobody worth anything makes predictions based on what if a key player gets injured.

He missed his entire Sr. year of HS due to injury and missed time this year and was forced to wear a knee brace all year. I'd say that it is a very realistic possibility that he gets hurt next year at some point.
 
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If I were Iowa I would be worried that they pretty much controlled most of the game physically and time of possession, but still only able to win by a last second field goal.

This is dumb as well. What is the goal each week? Win the darn game. They did that. You don't get style points. I am sure if the shoe we're on the other foot, we would be elated today and think we curb stomped them on their own turf. Just win, somehow. That ultimately is all that matters.
 
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Exactly, defense didn't improve one bit this year. They were almost constantly out schemed when it mattered and it doesn't matter what kind of talent you bring in if they are put in bad situations they will bleed yards and points and that was the story this year.

It's not like we are bringing in 5 star talent that can cover up bad scheme to a certain extent so all this wishful thinking about the defense being better next year is just that and nothing more.

This defense is so readable it's laughable. It's schoolyard garbage.


The D showed huge improvement this year....lol

More guys flying to the ball....better cohesion....and a 'never say die' championship attitude starting to build.

We need some better athletes...and we will get them. Have a great off season WuTang...the future is bright indeed.