Talk a walk buddy. Go watch some film with Fran and watch him correct your silly *** on your every allegation that Rutgers fouls on every possession, and listen to Fran when he tells you that is one of the best if not the best defensive teams you will see on film. Go back to your hole, clueless!!!!
We didn't get jobbed...
- Thread starter Jtg=04131996
- Start date
- Status
With 2:30 minutes to go on the sideline.
https://www.btnplus.com/game/rutgers-at-iowa-on-01222020?tid=20
Not sure if you can watch this because it takes a subscription.
Cannot but if you are referring to play where the Iowa guy , I guess it was Toiussaint bumps Harper causing him to go out of bounds , that was a clear foul and bump. They even replayed it on BTN and Bardo pointed out the bump.
I went back and watched the fouls after they were 4-4 at one point. Foul 5 wasn't a foul on your big. CJ slipped but got the foul call. Foul 6 was on Johnson and was when he stuck his leg out. He would have been fine if the leg wasn't out. Foul 7 was on Harper and he was holding Garza's arm on the rebound. Foul 8 was a 50/50 call but I would lean towards not calling it especially the way it was being called all game. Foul 9 he pushed Garza in the back initially. Refs were frustrating with how they changed from half to half. I'm not arguing that. Both teams got some benefit of the calls.
Bardo says on the telecast initially he thought it was a foul but then after the replay said "Wait, hold on a minute." I wish I could cut the clip to be able to show it.
It was a foul but Harper also embellished a lot if we're talking about the same play.
The Mulcahy call pissed me off the most. Nothing there and Iowa throws the ball off the rim there and got bailed out.
Overall refs weren't a problem and not why we lost.
The Mulcahy call pissed me off the most. Nothing there and Iowa throws the ball off the rim there and got bailed out.
Overall refs weren't a problem and not why we lost.
I saw the clip live and on replay. It was a slight bump. It wouldn’t have been called except that Harper was going out of bounds so had to call it. Kinda like the good refs let a little contact go on a slam when there is body contact but if slam is missed you get a late whistle. Ref was not initially going to call that foul.
Kudos to you for going actually taking the time to review this. Having said that, based on my recollection from seeing it live:
- Your reference of 4-4 fouls on each side includes Fran's technical (whereas I specifically didn't).
- It wasn't just the disparity in having the next five fouls all called on RU, but more importantly all the contact under the Rutgers basket that wasn't called. Even Bardo was befuddled at it.
Last edited:
Okay just watched it again. Did you not see your guy bump Harper ? Again , would not have been called except Harper was going out of bounds so ref could not let it go like he originally was going to ..Pretty simple.
Come on though, that little bump would not send him flying otherwise every time he drove to the basket he would go flying. He was bumped and jumped on his own in the air. We can agree to disagree but not a foul. Bardo even says he doesn't think it was after the replay.
It was a foul but Harper embellished it. It is what a smart player does. As stated it was not going to be originally called but Harper gave the ref no choice.
It wasn't the amount of PFs that hurt us as much as who got the personal fouls. Caleb McConnell has been running the starting PG the last 6 B1G games and facilitates our offense. I have a problem with a player who has had 6 total PFs the last 5 BIG games, getting 4 vs Iowa?!? and 3 early in the 2nd half, 19:33, 17:06, sub out 16:53, sub in 13:50, 13:03, sub out.
20 pts., 5/5 2 PF 34 min. Neb
2 pts. 8/4 *0 PF 29 min PSU*
4 pts 7/3 *1 PF 31 min Illinois*
10 pts 6/0 2 PF 27 min Ind
10 pts 12/1 *1 PF 29 min Minn*
6 PFs in 150 minutes played
For the year, 27 PFs in 408 minutes/18 games
1.5 PF/gm, 1 PF every 15 minutes played
Iowa
1st half 5 pts 1/4, 2nd half 1 pt 0/1
4 PFs in 25 minutes, 3 in 4 minutes played, 20:00-13:03.
He was tied with Jacob Young for least personal fouls on the team with 27 PFs besides Carter 20 and Doucoure 9. You don't go thru a season rarely fouling to a foul machine. I want to know if any of those fouls were legit, I don't buy it.
20 pts., 5/5 2 PF 34 min. Neb
2 pts. 8/4 *0 PF 29 min PSU*
4 pts 7/3 *1 PF 31 min Illinois*
10 pts 6/0 2 PF 27 min Ind
10 pts 12/1 *1 PF 29 min Minn*
6 PFs in 150 minutes played
For the year, 27 PFs in 408 minutes/18 games
1.5 PF/gm, 1 PF every 15 minutes played
Iowa
1st half 5 pts 1/4, 2nd half 1 pt 0/1
4 PFs in 25 minutes, 3 in 4 minutes played, 20:00-13:03.
He was tied with Jacob Young for least personal fouls on the team with 27 PFs besides Carter 20 and Doucoure 9. You don't go thru a season rarely fouling to a foul machine. I want to know if any of those fouls were legit, I don't buy it.
He had to “[jump] on his own” because he’d been bumped out of bounds and landing would have turned the ball over.
I still maintain it was a foul. To me it's damn near same as when player is sliding along with player who is dribbling and he hold hands straight up but puts his knee in front of ball handler as he goes by. That too is a fouk
Watching these goofy arguments about refs and the apparently endless string of pernicious, biased foul calls is like watching the Monty Python Argument Clinic sketch.
I mostly just think it's a foul because that bump would've caused him to go out of bounds even without him playing it up I think. If that bump occurs further from the line I wouldn't think it was a foul generally.
The fact that they missed foul shots doesn’t take away that they got jobbed. They absolutely got jobbed
I posted this thread last year after Iowa. Today, we got ducking jobbed. Utter garbage from the refs tonight, utter garbage.
Its not composure problem when every player on the floor is playing out of POSITION 1-5 when the refs were intentionally calling questionable fouls on our 5 position everyone on the floor is not used to playing the 5 in any offensive set is why we "lost our composure"
Is that really what you think? Refs took Myles out of the game almost instantaneously, knowing Cliff couldn't play. You don't think that affected the outcome of the game? Wow. Worst foul calls I can ever recall seeing in a basketball game.
This is a thread from a year ago.
The moderators should be locking this thread so no one actually responds to people commenting to posts from a year ago to flame posters on views on a different game entirely.
I've got a report in to that effect.
The moderators should be locking this thread so no one actually responds to people commenting to posts from a year ago to flame posters on views on a different game entirely.
I've got a report in to that effect.
Andddddd here we are a year later LOL
Relevant thread. Next time make a new one and link the old so people don’t complain and have your very good point taken away.
Last edited:
- Status