We didn't get jobbed...

[bac2therac]

No one is going to be sorry for teams that cry about refs. Buck up. RU gave up 31 points in 10 minutes, the foul shot differential was a few shots.

I could go on and say in the last 5 minutes, RU got the benefit of the calls, but did anyone mention that..ooops

 

[RUDiddy777]

OP this..thank you for saying it. I hope our fans in the game thread mature. Its not always the refs. There was a stretch where RU lost composure and not playing well defensively, sure there were alot of fouls called on RU, because we didnt handle that situation well. When we settled down we actually got the lead. You have to respond, we blinked for a few minutes and paid for it

During long stretches got outrebounded, sloppy on D and couldn’t hit shots and made some poor selections. It is what it is. Good learning experience

 

[FrankZ_RU93]

Well he missed one of the FTs...

With that said they can keep the other one too.

 

[RU05]

We weren’t jobbed in first five minutes? Quickest nine fouls in 7 minutes?
That didn’t make a difference?
Story of the game. Ridiculous officiating.
Pike has to start getting T’s as we get no benefit from refs.

What does that mean? There was some sort of record set for quickest fouls tonight?

 

[bac2therac]

Wrong.

Bardo in ONE comment alone said that Iowa got away with fouls on SEVERAL possessions.

yup you dont care that we got 3 points (2 on the bucket and 1 on the tech that actually should have been 4) because they didnt call the Iowa guys fouling Caleb...oops.....this is too easy

 

[RUsojo]

Don't forget to kiss your Tim Higgins poster goodnight.

Winner

 

[S_Janowski]

Please, Bardo was talking about 2 bad calls, not the whole game. We got 4 points on a blunder in our favor - Caleb was clearly fouled before the end of the half, but the no-call gave us an easy basket and the T gave us 2 more. They call that foul and we have 4 less points. So yeah, things tend to even out.

There were more than 2 bad calls.

And you’re totally dismissing the fact that they went into the bonus so early bc of the lame *** make up calls which completely changed the game.

 

[The RUT]

Anyone that thinks the refs didn’t screw us early in the 2nd half is a complete potato.

If you disagree with that statement then you have been canceled.

 

[RUsojo]

No one is going to be sorry for teams that cry about refs. Buck up. RU gave up 31 points in 10 minutes, the foul shot differential was a few shots.

I could go on and say in the last 5 minutes, RU got the benefit of the calls, but did anyone mention that..ooops

I’d like to hear a recap of those calls

 

[bac2therac]

During long stretches got outrebounded, sloppy on D and couldn’t hit shots and made some poor selections. It is what it is. Good learning experience

yup...we were not comfortable when adversity hit

 

[RU05]

Wrong.

Bardo in ONE comment alone said that Iowa got away with fouls on SEVERAL possessions.

I remember him talking about 2 possessions.

But seriously get over it.

 

[bac2therac]

Come on BAC were you watching the game where the announcer is saying we were fouled and nothing called absolute BS if this game was fairly referreed we win easily

win easily...lmfao

 

[RutgHoops]

The game was officiated poorly. When you have 6 fouls in one half and 31 fouls in the other half it's tough to argue it was well officiated. I do believe that tighter 2nd half whistle impacted us more than Iowa. I think it is a reasonable opinion.

Whether it cost us the game or not is a foolish discussion. But arguing that game was well officiated is a tough case to make (imo)

 

[bac2therac]

You’re better than this BAC.

no apparently i am not

 

[RUsojo]

yup...we were not comfortable when adversity hit

Wait so now clawing back against that dynamic means we weren’t comfortable in adversity? You’re all over the place boomer

 

[willisneverrana43]

OP this..thank you for saying it. I hope our fans in the game thread mature. Its not always the refs. There was a stretch where RU lost composure and not playing well defensively, sure there were alot of fouls called on RU, because we didnt handle that situation well. When we settled down we actually got the lead. You have to respond, we blinked for a few minutes and paid for it

Oh, it’s always the refs. And, no, the fans won’t mature.

Lost in all of this whining about refs is an acknowledgement that RU was forced to play Iowa’s game, started to get beat-up in the second half, hung tough regardless, came roaring back to take the lead late, and only then lost a close game. A lot of heart. RU can build on this.

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

Please, Bardo was talking about 2 bad calls, not the whole game. We got 4 points on a blunder in our favor - Caleb was clearly fouled before the end of the half, but the no-call gave us an easy basket and the T gave us 2 more. They call that foul and we have 4 less points. So yeah, things tend to even out.

It doesn't even out....

The faster a team gets into the bonus impacts the scoring potential of the game. A team that went 7 minutes without a basket, maintained a lead because they were able to get to the FT, which allows a team to set their defense and rest while scoring.

I am not going to get into a bac discussion on refs, I do think it's in the B1Gs benefit to make it somewhat easier to maintain some sense of normalcy and Iowa has a lengthy reputation of leading the league and nation in FTs attempted.

I am not treating this game as anything other than another step in the process. RU overcame the refs and could've tied the game at 80.

To state that Iowa gets into the 80s without fouls being called early in the 2nd half, is foolish...it completely impacted the pace of scoring.

 

[GORU2014]

The game was officiated poorly. When you have 6 fouls in one half and 31 fouls in the other half it's tough to argue it was well officiated. I do believe that tighter 2nd half whistle impacted us more than Iowa. I think it is a reasonable opinion.

Whether it cost us the game or not is a foolish discussion. But arguing that game was well officiated is a tough case to make (imo)

Ignore the 25 foul difference between halves, the only thing that matters is the last 2 possessions. Same story every time this happens for @bac2therac

 

[DHajekRC84]

Honestly I think we slightly outplayed Iowa.

Iowa had 19 or so pts in the last 10:30 on two made field goals. Amazing defensive effort. But the damage was done by the refs in the first 6-10 minutes. Was enough for Iowa to hold on.

Yeah we missed a some opportunities and no ones going to argue that.

But the fact that some boomers on here can’t understand that the way officiating impacts a game isn’t limited to the FT column is more than a bit annoying at this point.

Please stop the boomer crap. Free up your mind.
Having said that anybody know what the score would have been if you just count the first half plus last 15mins...said another way, excluding the first 5 of the seconds half Fran Kiss A$$ fest?

 

[S_Janowski]

no apparently i am not

I’m not one to always blame the refs and actually hate when people are lazy and just look at the foul disparity and claim it was a poorly called game (when sometimes it actually isn’t)....

But your refusal to even acknowledge that the refs took over the game in the first 5-6 minutes by calling a bunch of bs calls and putting Iowa in the bonus is laughable. You’re clearing just being stubborn on purpose...you’re smarter.

 

[bac2therac]

The game was officiated poorly. When you have 6 fouls in one half and 31 fouls in the other half it's tough to argue it was well officiated. I do believe that tighter 2nd half whistle impacted us more than Iowa. I think it is a reasonable opinion.

Whether it cost us the game or not is a foolish discussion. But arguing that game was well officiated is a tough case to make (imo)

and I wouldnt say it was well officiated either because of the inconsistency...to call it one way one half and different the other half is absurd...but its up to the teams to adjust. Iowa got alot of fouls called the first few minutes o of the 2nd half too...it was even at 4 but you have to adjust to how its being called, RU didnt and they also played poorly defensively and offensively

Look at the numbers...25 shots for Iowa, 21 for RU and it should have been 22 if you count missed one and one

so in that stretch, Mathis blows a layup because of a hesitation and where he gets fouled but then misses 2 foul shots and Iowa converts on the other end for 3...thats a 5 pt swing having nothing to do with the refs. Mulcahy misses an open shot and then get scorched on D and comitts a foul on the shot and that is a 5 point swing,

 

[Sweet Pea's Corner]

Don't forget to kiss your Tim Higgins poster goodnight.

Yup. That one is right below my Farrah Fawcett poster.

 

[S_Janowski]

The game was officiated poorly. When you have 6 fouls in one half and 31 fouls in the other half it's tough to argue it was well officiated. I do believe that tighter 2nd half whistle impacted us more than Iowa. I think it is a reasonable opinion.

Whether it cost us the game or not is a foolish discussion. But arguing that game was well officiated is a tough case to make (imo)

This.

Absolutely no consistency between the way the 1st and 2nd half was called = ****** called game that favored Iowa.

 

[bac2therac]

I’m not one to always blame the refs and actually hate when people are lazy and just look at the foul disparity and claim it was a poorly called game (when sometimes it actually isn’t)....

But your refusal to even acknowledge that the refs took over the game in the first 5-6 minutes by calling a bunch of bs calls and putting Iowa in the bonus is laughable. You’re clearing just being stubborn on purpose...you’re smarter.

the inconsistency is the issue, not that Rutgers got screwed over, yet are you acknowledging that the refs directly led to 3 RU points, should have been 4....does that matter at all

 

[bac2therac]

I didnt see one person here crying and saying waaaaaaaaaaah Caleb was fouled and they didnt call it, everyone was cheering the basketball and making fun of Fran. Just own those moments, if you did I would take some of these arguments seriously not to mention RU gettting the benefit of the whistle the last 4-5 minutes

 

[RUsojo]

Please stop the boomer crap. Free up your mind.
Having said that anybody know what the score would have been if you just count the first half plus last 15mins...said another way, excluding the first 5 of the seconds half Fran Kiss A$$ fest?

Ok boomer

 

[S_Janowski]

the inconsistency is the issue, not that Rutgers got screwed over, yet are you acknowledging that the refs directly led to 3 RU points, should have been 4....does that matter at all

The thing you are failing to acknowledge is that the inconsistency favored Iowa. The majority of bs calls were against us.

Get the hell out of here with “adjusting”. How can you adjust to bs calls that aren’t fouls?

 

[RUsojo]

I didnt see one person here crying and saying waaaaaaaaaaah Caleb was fouled and they didnt call it, everyone was cheering the basketball and making fun of Fran. Just own those moments, if you did I would take some of these arguments seriously not to mention RU gettting the benefit of the whistle the last 4-5 minutes

In the flow of the game I didn’t see a foul there but that’s just one smart mans opinion.

 

[RUsojo]

The thing you are failing to acknowledge is that the inconsistency favored Iowa. The majority of bs calls were against us.

Get the hell out of here with “adjusting”. How can you adjust to bs calls that aren’t fouls?

It’s a lost cause

 

[bac2therac]

what is sick is that instead of being encourage about the level of play from RU nearly winning at Iowa despite not playing anywhere near their normal solid D, I am getting trolled into arguments about refs causing RU to lose.

 

[czxqa]

OMG, some of you guys sound like the same sore losers everyone gets mad at from PSU and South Orange Community College. There are bad calls in every game in every sport every day. Good teams find ways to win. Today we fell just a little short because a few crucial shots didn't go in for us and did go in for them. It really is that simple. We lost by 5 on the road to the #19 team in the country. Four years ago we would have lost this game by 30. Now we expect to win them. That alone is huge.
Blaming the refs is for losers. We're better than that.

 

[bac2therac]

In the flow of the game I didn’t see a foul there but that’s just one smart mans opinion.

flow of the game...there was like 3 or 4 seconds left and Iowa had 4 fouls to give

 

[S_Janowski]

I didnt see one person here crying and saying waaaaaaaaaaah Caleb was fouled and they didnt call it, everyone was cheering the basketball and making fun of Fran. Just own those moments, if you did I would take some of these arguments seriously not to mention RU gettting the benefit of the whistle the last 4-5 minutes

I don’t think anyone was denying that was a missed call. It was 1 play...1 missed called and we were all laughing because of dbag McCaffery’s reaction.

1 play compared to 5-6 minutes of bs calls to start the 2nd half that put Iowa in the bonus and completely changed the game.

You do the math.

 

[czxqa]

The game was officiated poorly. When you have 6 fouls in one half and 31 fouls in the other half it's tough to argue it was well officiated. I do believe that tighter 2nd half whistle impacted us more than Iowa. I think it is a reasonable opinion.

Whether it cost us the game or not is a foolish discussion. But arguing that game was well officiated is a tough case to make (imo)

I agree with this completely.

 

[rutger80]

It was definitely questionable. But you know they would have called it just the same if the jerseys were flipped.

That was 1 play. Can you name another?
And how many bad calls went against us?
Just asking for a reasonable discussion (since I missed most of game).

The loose ball where the Iowa guy took McConnell's legs out.

 

[bac2therac]

Oh, it’s always the refs. And, no, the fans won’t mature.

Lost in all of this whining about refs is an acknowledgement that RU was forced to play Iowa’s game, started to get beat-up in the second half, hung tough regardless, came roaring back to take the lead late, and only then lost a close game. A lot of heart. RU can build on this.

this this this

I am incredibly encouraged about what I saw tonight and the knack for Pikiell to get his team to keep fighting with tenacity despite not playing well. They were a made play or two away from absolutely stealing this down 10. I am done talking about refs. I can assure you that Pikiell is not talking about refs when he is going over the game film with his team on why they lost

 

[bac2therac]

I don’t think anyone was denying that was a missed call. It was 1 play...1 missed called and we were all laughing because of dbag McCaffery’s reaction.

1 play compared to 5-6 minutes of bs calls to start the 2nd half that put Iowa in the bonus and completely changed the game.

You do the math.

15-21 vs 18-25 looks pretty close to me for playing on the road...you do the math. How about you go back and see how RU played poorly on the offensive end during this key stretch...Mathis blowing a 3 pt play and some other reversals, how about bricking 3s, RU i believed missed their first 6 in the 2nd half and only hit 1 of 10 for the half. Is that the refs? Are they making Geo force shots

 

[bac2therac]

Do you not think that Fran's scene at the end of the half didn't have any effect on the way the game was called in the second half?

I most certainly do think it changed the way the game was called.

 

[S_Janowski]

15-21 vs 18-25 looks pretty close to me for playing on the road...you do the math. How about you go back and see how RU played poorly on the offensive end during this key stretch...Mathis blowing a 3 pt play and some other reversals, how about bricking 3s, RU i believed missed their first 6 in the 2nd half and only hit 1 of 10 for the half. Is that the refs? Are they making Geo force shots

And now you’re pulling the foul stats and being lazy....that means nothing. How about just watching the game with your eyes and seeing the disparity and inconsistency in how things are ACTUALLY being called.

Also you keep bringing up other things unrelated to this discussion. I’m not denying Rutgers had chances to win and overcome the ****** officiating.

But it’s a joke that you can’t admit the officiating was ****** and honestly a knock on your rep.

I didn’t even read your recap tonight.

 

[bac2therac]

He won’t. He doesn’t seem like he makes excuses. This game was there for the taking. They haven’t learned how to close out tough road games yet.

this is probably the last piece of the puzzle...that we are at this point is tremendous in itself