*UNC-Cheat grad asking for a reference.........

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Again I will say the lack or creativity and originality with trolls these days is truly disappointing. Not long ago it could be difficult to sniff them out but anymore their attempts are so sad and pathetic that my 9 year old can tell which ones are the trolls.
 
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Again I will say the lack or creativity and originality with trolls these days is truly disappointing. Not long ago it could be difficult to sniff them out but anymore their attempts are so sad and pathetic that my 9 year old can tell which ones are the trolls.
I am sitting in a chemo treatment room with a family member. This kind of thread is a good diversion. It is better than watching the view! [roll]
 
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I am sitting in a chemo treatment room with a family member. This kind of thread is a good diversion. It is better than watching the view! [roll]
I am so sorry about your family member. I will pray for that person. Take care of her or him and yourself, don't worry about this trivial stuff.
 
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Again I will say the lack or creativity and originality with trolls these days is truly disappointing. Not long ago it could be difficult to sniff them out but anymore their attempts are so sad and pathetic that my 9 year old can tell which ones are the trolls.
Not a troll, I got pulled into this argument saying that I think everyone cheats (mainly because the NCAA has outdated rules).
 
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My dad called me today to ask me to help a friend's son get into the company I work at (we get 2 million applicants a year).


Me: "Sure thing - where did he graduate from?"
Dad: "Chapel Hill"
Me: "lolololololol. We don't need any more janitors at the moment"
Dad: "What?"
Me: "We don't hire from schools that have fake classes"

Needless to say it's a very good family friend - but there's no way in hell I'm recommending this kid. Dad is insistent and wants me to talk to him....... I want to absolutely blast him..... but will burn a bridge if I do.
You don't graduate from Chapel hill. That is a town.
 
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Maybe everyone does cheat but it is irresponsible to throw out that accusation without proof. U want proof of unc being a diploma mill but turn around and accuse uk of cheating? Isn't that hypocritical?



Not a troll, I got pulled into this argument saying that I think everyone cheats (mainly because the NCAA has outdated rules).
 

kybassfan

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I am not nor do I care to defend North Carolina. This is an exercise in figuring out how people create the truths in their lives. I am asking for proof. Diatribes aren't proof. Just show me a link to the the reports you mentioned that show all the information you mentioned above. With the knowledge of the cheating you are showing above, you must have picked up this information from the reports. Just link those.

It’s been all over. I have no inclination to over come your google ignorance. The Filth are cheats. Your ignorance of this on such a well established set of data is your disability.
 
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Maybe everyone does cheat but it is irresponsible to throw out that accusation without proof. U want proof of unc being a diploma mill but turn around and accuse uk of cheating? Isn't that hypocritical?
I said I think (vs I know). I think UNC cheated and think everyone cheats. I make sure I label mine as an opinion. How is the treatment going?
 

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Maybe everyone does cheat but it is irresponsible to throw out that accusation without proof. U want proof of unc being a diploma mill but turn around and accuse uk of cheating? Isn't that hypocritical?

Think this one is a Bobbi Tickle Perv retread. Acts exactly like him.
 
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It’s been all over. I have no inclination to over come your google ignorance. The Filth are cheats. Your ignorance of this on such a well established set of data is your disability.
Everyone assumes I am defending North Carolina, which I am not. I am trying to figure out why people believe certain things but don't have the proof to back it up. This is why Russian Trolls can go on Facebook and mess with our political system. A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest. You are right, I could do the research but I figured since everyone is so sure that North Carolina is a diploma factory, they could easily point to the report that states that fact or, in essence, states that fact.
 
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My dad called me today to ask me to help a friend's son get into the company I work at (we get 2 million applicants a year).


Me: "Sure thing - where did he graduate from?"
Dad: "Chapel Hill"
Me: "lolololololol. We don't need any more janitors at the moment"
Dad: "What?"
Me: "We don't hire from schools that have fake classes"

Needless to say it's a very good family friend - but there's no way in hell I'm recommending this kid. Dad is insistent and wants me to talk to him....... I want to absolutely blast him..... but will burn a bridge if I do.
Found a video of his janitorial job interview...



Smarter than a plant but not as smart as a calculator because it has a battery. [laughing]
 

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Everyone assumes I am defending North Carolina, which I am not. I am trying to figure out why people believe certain things but don't have the proof to back it up. This is why Russian Trolls can go on Facebook and mess with our political system. A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest. You are right, I could do the research but I figured since everyone is so sure that North Carolina is a diploma factory, they could easily point to the report that states that fact or, in essence, states that fact.

Please show us proof that everyone cheats or are u making up ur own narrative?
 
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I was thinking same thing but as I said earlier this is a good diversion.
Preacher, as long as it is a diversion that is fine. But please focus on your family. Doing research for my lazy behind over something stupid like this is not important. The health of your family member is. If you have a chance, please update me on the program.
 

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Preacher, as long as it is a diversion that is fine. But please focus on your family. Doing research for my lazy behind over something stupid like this is not important. The health of your family member is. If you have a chance, please update me on the program.
Then go do your own research...
 
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Please show us proof that everyone cheats or are u making up ur own narrative?
Mine is a statement of belief, the diploma mill comment is being thrown out as a fact. If my statements earlier made it seem like I was throwing out fact, I apologize. It would be impossible to prove anyway. My hope is the NCAA doesn't exist in years and that shoe companies only provide gear to schools and don't throw millions of dollars around. That may be a naive hope but I hope none-the-less.
 

kybassfan

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Everyone assumes I am defending North Carolina, which I am not. I am trying to figure out why people believe certain things but don't have the proof to back it up. This is why Russian Trolls can go on Facebook and mess with our political system. A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest. You are right, I could do the research but I figured since everyone is so sure that North Carolina is a diploma factory, they could easily point to the report that states that fact or, in essence, states that fact.

And I think you are full of crap. Don’t bring politics into a discussion of the cheating Filth. We know what you are doing. You just aren’t very good at it. Coming in here with a total lack of information that has been in the public domain for a long time is bush league.
 

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Mine is a statement of belief, the diploma mill comment is being thrown out as a fact. If my statements earlier made it seem like I was throwing out fact, I apologize. It would be impossible to prove anyway. My hope is the NCAA doesn't exist in years and that shoe companies only provide gear to schools and don't throw millions of dollars around. That may be a naive hope but I hope none-the-less.
Go do your own research.
 

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You threw out the diploma mill comment as fact. You should be able to prove it. You seems to be well-informed so where did you get your information?
Go do your own research as Bassfan stated you come here with no facts and we have to educate you. Bush league.
 

preacherfan

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Mine is a statement of belief, the diploma mill comment is being thrown out as a fact. If my statements earlier made it seem like I was throwing out fact, I apologize. It would be impossible to prove anyway. My hope is the NCAA doesn't exist in years and that shoe companies only provide gear to schools and don't throw millions of dollars around. That may be a naive hope but I hope none-the-less.

Then google it and if u have proof unc wasn't running a diploma mill post it. Saying that unc was running a diploma mill is akin to saying that trump is the president of the country. It is indisputable and accepted by all who are informed. Only the blind and ignorant would question that fact.
 

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UNC cheats they admitted it . Honesty is TAUGHT. I would not take a chance on an applicant that comes from a background KNOWN for cheating.
Kick the bum out and tell dad sorry but I will not be responsible for someone that can't be trusted.
 
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Then google it and if u have proof unc wasn't running a diploma mill post it. Saying that unc was running a diploma mill is akin to saying that trump is the president of the country. It is indisputable and accepted by all who are informed. Only the blind and ignorant would question that fact.
This is bigger than this discussion. So many people throw out these "facts" then don't have the proof to back it up but if you repeat garbage information enough, it become "fact" to too many people. There is no disputing that North Carolina had athletic and academic issues. But the term diploma mill is being thrown around.

The definition of diploma mill is, "an organization that awards academic degrees and diplomas with substandard or no academic study and without academic approval by officially recognized educational accrediting bodies or qualified government agencies" All I have heard is that SACS put North Carolina on probation. Where is the proof of the diploma mill claim. When someone can throw out this kind of hyperbole as fact and everyone simply believes the hyperbole, that is extremely dangerous for this country, IMO.
 

kybassfan

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If you believe asking for proof is a deflection, you would be perfect for a career in politics.

LOL. You asking for information that is readily and easily obtainable is pretty pathetic. I guess you want proof that The Filth even has a basketball team.

So you are trolling or too stupid to use google. Which is it?
 

preacherfan

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This is bigger than this discussion. So many people throw out these "facts" then don't have the proof to back it up but if you repeat garbage information enough, it become "fact" to too many people. There is no disputing that North Carolina had athletic and academic issues. But the term diploma mill is being thrown around.

The definition of diploma mill is, "an organization that awards academic degrees and diplomas with substandard or no academic study and without academic approval by officially recognized educational accrediting bodies or qualified government agencies" All I have heard is that SACS put North Carolina on probation. Where is the proof of the diploma mill claim. When someone can throw out this kind of hyperbole as fact and everyone simply believes the hyperbole, that is extremely dangerous for this country, IMO.

Thanks you described unc perfectly in ur second paragraph. Don't downplay the probation. I never have heard of that happening to a major state university before. Have u?
 

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No, the NCAA is famous for selective prosecution. It will be up to the NCAA whether we vacate games. UNC ran a diploma mill for its players for 20 years. You can pretend that didn't happen but that goes to the heart of being an educational institution or just being a school that will do anything to hang some banners.

Unlike UNC who spent around $20 million on PR firms and lawyers to drag their scandal out for 7 years Kentucky will fully cooperate and turn over any and all evidence to the NCAA.

So, then, are you saying that Cal/UK cheated by using an ineligible player but it will be up to the NCAA to determine if UK should vacate?
 

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I am saying that the NCAA is notorious for its selective enforcement and its golden boy always walks.

And besides, neither uk nor cal would have been involved in paying a player to play for another school. That is beyond stupid for shadeofblue to even suggest.
 
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Thanks you described unc perfectly in ur second paragraph. Don't downplay the probation. I never have heard of that happening to a major state university before. Have u?
I hadn't really heard of SACs before but my guess is that others have been on probation. The definition I showed does not describe North Carolina and my sense is you know it. If not, show me how it fits the definition. If SACs is reviewing them, then there is "an officiallay recognized educational accrediting body". It is tough to have a discussion with someone who can't be objective. Please focus on your family member. Don't worry about your research and the proof you can show.
 
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