Russia is really ramping up the scope of the Ukraine war. Putin will keep pushing until someone stops him or ..........
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Wait, this is still going on? I thought it would end January 21, 2025?
F Russia. Would have been over 4 or 5 years ago if Biden and Boris Johnson hadn't told Ukraine to reject a peace settlement. Think of how many people have lost their lives because of this.
Deflection of responsibility for about 6 years of lost lives. I realize that doesn't matter to people with TDS, but it matters to some people.
Deflection? You’re the one who pivoted to Biden. Your TDRS is showing.
You are the one who has tried to hide Biden's much greater responsibility and shame.
You are such an idiot. Full stop.
This isn’t about trump or biden. It is about Putin.
I don’t recall that. What where the details of that settlement?
Ukraine giving up all occupied land to Russia with zero compensation or surrender money to rebuild infrastructure.
Imagine if Mexico super sized their military and then tried to take back the southwest states by force. Would all these folks who wanted Ukraine to give up land to end a war they didn't start want us to give up the southwest to end a war we didn't start?
And this is one of the things I have noticed about many, if not most, conservatives - they lack circumstantial empathy. They don't have the ability to suspend their own biases and beliefs in order to put themselves in someone else's shoes.
What if Mexico super sized their military and had China's full backing.
Would you give up the southwest states to end that war that the USA didn't start, or would you want to fight back to protect the lives and interests of America?
What are you talking about. We should defend our territory. Ukraine is of no concern to me. Let them give up territory or die trying to keep it. Stop sending them money. We have our own problems.
Here are the details from Claude:
Ukraine could still pursue EU membership
Crimea's status would be deferred for 15 years of consultation
Major sticking points remained unresolved: Russia wanted Ukraine's military capped around 85,000 troops; Ukraine wanted 250,000. The fate of Donetsk and Luhansk was also unsettled.
Former Israeli PM Naftali Bennett, who was involved in the talks, has said Russia and Ukraine were willing to make major concessions to end the conflict until pressure from then-UK PM Boris Johnson convinced Zelensky to back away from the deal
Totally ridiculous comparison. Russia is surrounded by numerous hostile States and the United States welshed on an agreement not to expand NATO. We are expending Ukrainian lives to support geopolitical goals that have very little to do with the ukraine. There are numerous places all over the world where there are border disputes. They are not our concern. Right now the Ukrainian Russian war resembles world War I stalled trench warfare in the sense that no real progress is being made on either side and lives are being wasted.