Ukraine

[Tenacious E_rivals41982]

This is from Claude: "Gorbachev (1990): Declassified U.S., Soviet, German, French, and British documents show Secretary of State James Baker assured Gorbachev that if a united Germany stayed in NATO, there would be no extension of NATO's jurisdiction eastward. This wasn't just Baker — multiple Western leaders, including Bush, Kohl, Genscher, Thatcher, and Mitterrand, all conveyed similar assurances to Soviet leaders in 1990. Crucially, these assurances were never written into a formal treaty, though the record shows a clear pattern of communication from top Western officials creating a real expectation on the Soviet side."

Now do Ukraine giving up its nukes in exchange for security assurances against threats or the use of force on Ukraine's territorial integrity and sovereignty, pursuant to the Budapest Memorandum.

 

[tarheelbybirth1]

This is from Claude: "Gorbachev (1990): Declassified U.S., Soviet, German, French, and British documents show Secretary of State James Baker assured Gorbachev that if a united Germany stayed in NATO, there would be no extension of NATO's jurisdiction eastward. This wasn't just Baker — multiple Western leaders, including Bush, Kohl, Genscher, Thatcher, and Mitterrand, all conveyed similar assurances to Soviet leaders in 1990. Crucially, these assurances were never written into a formal treaty, though the record shows a clear pattern of communication from top Western officials creating a real expectation on the Soviet side."

LOL... so what you have is AI saying people say people said it.

Was. There. Any. Formal. Agreement?

 

[tarheelbybirth1]

Now do Ukraine giving up its nukes in exchange for security assurances against threats or the use of force on Ukraine's territorial integrity and sovereignty, pursuant to the Budapest Memorandum.

And that's actually written down. An actual agreement.