Tucker update re Baylor
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The "rep" part definitely speaks volumes. If we can wrestle him away from the typical "rep" schools it will be an accomplishment
With Reeves committing today its probably very dicey BS comes here now. Gonna guess KU.
What should happen if you sign Baylor...
PG- Wallace (15-20)/Wheeler (20-25)
SG- CJ (15-20)/Wallace (10)/Reeves (10-15)
3G- Baylor (25)/Livingston (10)/Reeves (5)
F- Toppin (20)/Collins (10)/Livingston (10)
C- Oscar (30)/Collins (5-10)/Ware (0-5)
This gives mins as follows:
Oscar- 30
Wallace- 25-30
Baylor- 25
Wheeler- 20-25
Livingston- 20
Toppin- 20
Reeves- 15-20
CJ- 15-20
Collins- 15-20
Ware- 0-5
Sign another shooter that is a combo guard. Take a few minutes from the guys who are playing 30...Baylor, Wallace and save their legs until rotation tightens...that is if the other guy can play.
May get Brooks back too and then we have way too many F's who can't stretch the floor again.
As much as I like the potential of Brooks and fact that he'd be a 4th year guy I just don't think there is room for Toppin/Collins/him barring some kind of injury.
Edit- since we signed Reeves this whole thing changed...I think we can still get Baylor but if we do I don't see anyone outside of Oscar playing 30mpg unless Cal is just hell bent on playing Wheeler that much.
PG- Wallace (15-20)/Wheeler (20-25)
SG- CJ (15-20)/Wallace (10)/Reeves (10-15)
3G- Baylor (25)/Livingston (10)/Reeves (5)
F- Toppin (20)/Collins (10)/Livingston (10)
C- Oscar (30)/Collins (5-10)/Ware (0-5)
This gives mins as follows:
Oscar- 30
Wallace- 25-30
Baylor- 25
Wheeler- 20-25
Livingston- 20
Toppin- 20
Reeves- 15-20
CJ- 15-20
Collins- 15-20
Ware- 0-5
Sign another shooter that is a combo guard. Take a few minutes from the guys who are playing 30...Baylor, Wallace and save their legs until rotation tightens...that is if the other guy can play.
May get Brooks back too and then we have way too many F's who can't stretch the floor again.
As much as I like the potential of Brooks and fact that he'd be a 4th year guy I just don't think there is room for Toppin/Collins/him barring some kind of injury.
Edit- since we signed Reeves this whole thing changed...I think we can still get Baylor but if we do I don't see anyone outside of Oscar playing 30mpg unless Cal is just hell bent on playing Wheeler that much.
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Who on this year's team could guard anybody? Need people that can MAKE SHOTS!
That would be the least playing time Cal has ever given a top 10 recruit, by a wide margin. Livingston will play, and play a lot.
The kid from SDSU is better at creating and with the ball in his hand than reeves is, he can create and playmake
I really don’t see room for another rotation player with who is expected back and who is expected to come in.
Tshiebwe is a lock to start. Wheeler shouldn’t be, but is also a lock.
Toppin has two years in the system as a rotation player. He’ll play significant minutes.
Fredrick is going to play a big role, if healthy.
Collins came back and will likely see an increased role.
Wallace and Livingston are 5-stars. They’ll play.
Reeves didn’t sign on to sit the bench for his fifth year. He will be a rotation guy.
Ware reprises his role as Tshiebwe’s backup.
That’s a 9 man rotation, which is what Cal prefers. He probably gets Theiro as the 10th man/practice player because he probably won’t expect much PT as a Freshman.
I don’t see us adding another significant minutes a game type player unless one of the above mentioned guys leave.
We get Scheierman, expect someone to exit either now or midseason when they aren’t getting PT.
Tshiebwe is a lock to start. Wheeler shouldn’t be, but is also a lock.
Toppin has two years in the system as a rotation player. He’ll play significant minutes.
Fredrick is going to play a big role, if healthy.
Collins came back and will likely see an increased role.
Wallace and Livingston are 5-stars. They’ll play.
Reeves didn’t sign on to sit the bench for his fifth year. He will be a rotation guy.
Ware reprises his role as Tshiebwe’s backup.
That’s a 9 man rotation, which is what Cal prefers. He probably gets Theiro as the 10th man/practice player because he probably won’t expect much PT as a Freshman.
I don’t see us adding another significant minutes a game type player unless one of the above mentioned guys leave.
We get Scheierman, expect someone to exit either now or midseason when they aren’t getting PT.
Jacob Toppin played some damn good defense.
I’m indifferent on Brooks. If he comes back great. He needs to step up. If he doesn’t, we’ll good luck to him.
Skal played 15mpg and had a few DNPs. Whitney played 13mpg. Of course both got more opportunity than they deserved so I know Livingston will too but the pressure is on and if we have depth and he kills spacing around Oscar he might not play more than 15 or so.
True, he could get a diminished role if he doesn't perform. But looking at the list of guys in that ~#10 recruit range we've had, the majority have been major contributors.
If Baylor were to come which he won’t with a 10 team list but if you want to have a shot at landing him you pitch this.
wallace/wheller
Baylor/cj
Livingston/Baylor
Toppin/collins/Livingston
Oscar
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probaby rotate him off the bench at the 2/3. That’s 4 players who can play the 2/3. But if cal wants Baylor someone is gonna become dontaie allen. I could see cj being that guy just bc but honestly it would have to be Reeves if you want Baylor. No way you beat out those 10 teams to make Baylor the 6th 7th 8th guy. Ultimately if he were to come he would be recruited to play over several guys
There adding somebody else the interest in the SDSU kid should tell everybody that, I also wouldn’t be shocked if they tried to get the kid from Chattanooga
Sounds like you didnt read his scouting report ,he is crafty and can create offense, is word for word ,what it says ,now I understand why you think he is a spot up shooter,but he is way more then that ,he also is a great rebounder ,for a guard /SF and got good size, and great IQ....everyone in the country is on this kid that tells you what they think of him.
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sharpe is the top 10 draftee with the LEAST minutes played at UK--ZERO
nada--0---none---bench only to be seen
Another record achieved by begok!!
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nada--0---none---bench only to be seen
Another record achieved by begok!!
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@ChaiseyD well agree to disagree. WCS was a complete no show in big games and also had huge liabilities on offense. The guy couldn’t even hit a layup.
Lyles was not 6’10 lol and he was out of position all year. He never really looked comfortable either.
KAT was solid and sure, it was a really good team. I just think they’re really overrated and the way Calipari coaches that team isn’t winning championships. When everything is accounted for I don’t rank them top 4 during the Calipari era alone.
Lyles was not 6’10 lol and he was out of position all year. He never really looked comfortable either.
KAT was solid and sure, it was a really good team. I just think they’re really overrated and the way Calipari coaches that team isn’t winning championships. When everything is accounted for I don’t rank them top 4 during the Calipari era alone.
Which tells you he already knows where he wants to go. You don't tell people you are announcing in 2 weeks unless you have a clear favorite (Kansas.) Doesn't mean one of the other schools can't steal him, but I wouldn't bet money on it.
38-1 is all I need to know ,yes we will no biggie, I think that team is great ! Willie I don't think ever tryed to lay it up he dunked everything that he didnt shoot a jump hook .Lyles is a legitimate 6-10 the nba has to list the correct size and he is 6-10.
Lyles was not 6’10 at UK. Willie tried to create offense yes, but it was the worst offense we’ve seen from the big man spot at UK.
They were a really good team but overrated. I’ll take 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2014 over 2015 UK. And 3 out of those 4 went as far or better than ‘15, 2010 was a few minutes behind and we know why. I don’t even see how it’s debatable really. This isn’t a hard call.
Reeves is going to start he didn’t come here to come off the bench he has three years experience and is a proven scorer, if we are lucky enough to get Baylor he starts also he is too versatile , gives us another ball handler , and can shoot. Wallace will get minutes at the point spelling Wheeler and some at the two depending on foul trouble and injury. CJ and Livingston will get time at the 2 and 3 there is plenty of time for all these guys and gives Cal a ton of options if he chooses to use them and that is a big if..I think Thiero would be a nice development piece to have around and he may not be a 5 star but he is better that most of you think.
Thanks man. Nice pic of you and yours, too. Good looking couple!Hey! We have a face for the name now! Who’s that guy you’re with? Just kidding man
Actually when I saw the Avi, I thought it was Mbegcat, then I saw your handle. Maybe I’ll finally come out and put one up of me and my lady! Maybe
Nice picture BTW
Your right it really isn't much of a debate they were 38-1 bro,anyteam that is 38-1 is a great team! Lyles look him up in the media guide as well as his rookie yr in the nba .
I'd take '12, '10, '15 in that order Morg. '15 certainly wasn't better than '12. I'd have '17 breathing down their neck by end of season too.
Damnit I thought you were serious and talking about Baylor
. I've been avoiding during the day mostly...too distracting in this place. Didn't see Reeves commit. That is good news
Well crap, see I haven't been visiting much during day lately. Had no idea. Hmmm, not sure if we get Baylor then.
Probably the likely list, but I have a love affair with Randle. By far my favorite UK player under Calipari and - I think most dominant.
Given more thought, I’d have 12, then 10, then a tie between 15, 11, and 14 depending on whether I’m picking for a tournament or another way. My real point is just that we tend to overrate the POTENTIAL of the 2015 team (to be more accurate). I don’t think they win a title if given 5 chances. The issues with them as a “tournament team” were highly glossed over.
I’d give anything for that to had been Baylor.Damnit I thought you were serious and talking about Baylor