I'm saying that Mike Rice was not a bad hire and that Pernetti was hamstrung when it came to replacing Schiano by those who refused to pay even the bottom level of the going rate for a BCS coach at the time.
Tim Pernetti at IMG
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Further perspective, that many conveniently keep forgetting, is Schiano was making $2 million when he left. The budget for HC than sunk to $750k, the lowest in the FBS at the time.
I think he was a fantastic AD, the greatest in recorded collegial history. And I'm sorry he slept with your lover. Or pissed in your cornflakes. Or didn't get off your lawn. Whatever.
Yep, Schiano was making $2.3 million when he left. And think of this, if Flood's salary was so low, how bad do you think the assistant coaches' salary pool was? No wonder he had a revolving door of assistants during his tenure here.
We were going to pay Christobal much more than Flood got. But he turned us down. It was a rushed search given the timing in an attempt to retain a highly rated class. Tough situation. Financial limitations. Not an easy job winning at Rutgers. But, I agree, TP was not a strong AD and is better suited for other endeavors.
Actually not - yes, it was more, but not by a lot. One of the reasons he turned it down along with the minuscule assistant coaches' salary pool. And the lack of any commitment to facilities.
This coming from the founding member of the "Pernetti is Satan Incarnate" pitchfork and torch mob. Which one are you again?
All I said was he was a lousy AD. As for his media jobs , I haven’t followed them . But it seems like he has been successfulActually not - yes, it was more, but not by a lot. One of the reasons he turned it down along with the minuscule assistant coaches' salary pool. And the lack of any commitment to facilities.
This coming from the founding member of the "Pernetti is Satan Incarnate" pitchfork and torch mob. Which one are you again?
Actually not - yes, it was more, but not by a lot. One of the reasons he turned it down along with the minuscule assistant coaches' salary pool. And the lack of any commitment to facilities.
This coming from the founding member of the "Pernetti is Satan Incarnate" pitchfork and torch mob. Which one are you again?
The Flood hire didnt look too bad at the end of 2012. An ineligible receiver call away from a BCS bid and BE championship. TP was gone by the time it was clear he wasn’t a good HC. Not sure how people expect him to take action.
The priority for AD at the time was to get us off of the sinking ship that was the Big Least. He got us over the finish line.
In a few years when we’re competitive and winning some games we shouldn’t in the Big Ten, no one will be thinking about Flood or Rice. They’ll be thinking Rutgers is a competitive team in the best conference in college sports.
Oh that's just twaddle! He's the main reason Rutgers hasn't won a college football championship in this century, obviously hit on Plum Street's girl (or pissed in his cornflakes or didn't get off his lawn or whatever), failed to get Rutgers an invite to the NFC East and is the root of all Evil in this world. Time for you to go sharpen your pitchfork and light your torch!
No rah rah here.
My point from the second post in the thread was about his abilities as a color/analysis guy and not his time as the AD.
There is no question he was really good at the former which really doesn’t have that much to do with the latter. You can separate the two. It’s not that hard to do.
But if it’s true what @RUskoolie and @Beancounter88 say about the relationship being beyond repair...that might be it.
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Weird thread.
TP has been at IMG for years, and I don't think the executives at IMG media production have anything to do with, or any impact at all, with recruiting.
If your thinking there could some connection with kids at IMG academy, that's a big stretch. I doubt that the students have any direct interaction with IMG media executives.
TP has been at IMG for years, and I don't think the executives at IMG media production have anything to do with, or any impact at all, with recruiting.
If your thinking there could some connection with kids at IMG academy, that's a big stretch. I doubt that the students have any direct interaction with IMG media executives.
He did the best with the hand he was dealt. He wanted to fire Rice when he first got wind of it and the BOG said no, too expensive. Only until CNN shows up do they throw Tim under the bus.
Then when the best coach in school history leaves, the BOG decides to cut the pay of the replacement by over 50%. No win situation and frankly Tim should have resigned right then and there.
No one would have succeeded during that time and Julie Herman? Well, you can thank Kate Sweeney, whose only concern was that a woman be in charge, no matter what her qualifications were.
I don't think there was a connection between IMG Media and IMG academy either.
Just felt he was good in the booth and wouldn't mind hearing him again over the Scarlet airwaves.
I agree that he is good announcing . I just don’t see how you bring a guy that you fired back to announce . Shea or flood may be a good analyst too .
Graber while not in the radio booth did do a game or two on TV. Same with Bob Wenzel for MBB. I know it's TV and not radio but still...guys have returned.
And you didn't fire him for what happened in the booth.
But other guys says the relationship is still sour so probably moot st this point.
Graber and wenzel were back as broadcast teams for networks . Not as a rutgers crew
it was even worse than that. It had a gay women. For the record, I have no issues with a gay women getting the job if she is the best candidate, but it shouldn't be part of the job requirements.
Coming from someone who listens to the radio broadcast over TV, I thought Tim was great in the color role. I love Ray as a former RU player, and have come to appreciate him on the air for what he is. Ray is a total RU homer with his heart in the right place. But lets be honest, he doesn't add much to the game analysis and almost all his takes are wrong, especially when it comes to penalties. Tim was far superior in the role and I would love to see him come back to the broadcast in some capacity. I think Tim was in over his head in the AD role, but he still got a raw deal here. Perhaps he could have handled the Rice situation better, but Barchi and RU threw him under the bus.
That’s all I’m saying here.
But I think they both would be good together along with Eric for home games.
If anyone remembers Scott Brunner was really good too, he just doesn’t have the connection to the Program as the other three.
No they weren't unless you call $300k much more. He was offered less than 1/2 of what Schiano was making.
Wasn't about $1.2 million , he accepted, then came back asking for more and when RU didn't give him it, went back to FIU.
Considering what Rutgers was willing to pay, would make any AD behind the 8 ball when it came to getting good help.
Hiring Flood for less that Mario originally accepted only shown that Barchi wasn't going to spend what it takes to get the type of coaches that would make RU FB and MBB into competitive programs.
Forcing Tim P into gambling on his hires being better than the pay-scale he had to work with.
Rice was a gamble, but the salary he received wouldn't bring in sure fire winners..
The scandal fiasco surrounding MR was a bummer, but Barchi made it so by not looking at the evidence being used against Rice until after Tim P penalized Rice , in which Barchi then threw Tim under the bus because Tim didn't fire Rice and used his own judgement in the matter because Barchi refused to be involved until the blow-back started and he needed to save his image by destroying Tim. for not penalizing Rice the way the public felt Rice should have been penalized.
Knock Tim;s hires all you want, but when you don't have the budget to get the better ones, you have to gamble on how good the ones you can afford are and hope you guessed right.
Barchi wasn't there yet: drunky Dick McCormick was the lame duck president at that point.
Also, when you’re not around to take corrective action on bad hires, that also needs to be considered.
All of this^^^^^^^^
And we would have been in much much better shape pre Greg 2.0 if
1) Time was not thrown under the bus or that the BOG allowed him to fire Rice like he wanted to do
2) Even with the Flood replacement of Schiano-safest choice given the $$$ allowed...If Tim was the AD rather than Julie. Flood most likely never a great HC but half the **** that happened, most likely would not have if there was a mentor/support in the AD office for him
3) Even if Tim had to be thrown under the bus- the hiring of JH was the doom of this program much more than anything else
BTW- the last time I spoke with Tim, he did not in any way "hate" Rutgers but did despise those that through him under the bus. He still came to games and gave his time to ex players who he may be able to help or mentor on their transition out of football.
I've thought that all along: losing Pernetti was really a detriment to Flood.
I posted here prior to the Rice blowup, that I happened to be playing golf at the resort where the Big East meetings were being held. In front of me jay Wright was asked what he thought of newly hired Rice. He said he told Pernetti not to hire him he’s a lunatic.
Pernetti sucks.
Pernetti sucks.
Don’t know Tim personally, but did have a chance to chat with him briefly about a year ago. He didn’t come across as holding a grudge with RU and seemed to understand how appreciative the majority of the fanbase is towards him (and how much we all know he got thrown under the bus).
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So maybe if broached/approached the right way...
Doesn’t seem like the kind of guy who dwells on the past or wastes any effort on negativity.
The man has run a major sports franchise and now the head of a billion dollar organization...maybe as a guest as a guy around 50, would be a crazy career choice...