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This demonstrates a lack of understanding about all of the things Gov provides, and reflects decades of right wing propaganda. You **** in your own septic tank? Have your own well? Bank acct and do biz ensured by laws & regs? Public school? Drive on roads? Send mail? Use the internet? Prescription drugs & other tech built with Gov R&D? You should know what you’re talking about before you go around braying like a donkey that’s been beat too much.
this demonstrates proof yet another ward of the gov't has turned to poo

every single thing you mentioned is already done better by the private sector. everything. laws & regs are reactionary so the gov't can justify its beak wetting.

daddy loves you very much. washington cares deeply for your wants and needs.
 

nu2u

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A message from President-elect Biden's top campaign litigator........



1-55. Trump's legal team are now officially the Washington Generals of courtroom litigators.

 
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WHCSC

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A message from President-elect Biden's top campaign litigator........



1-55. Trump's legal team are now officially the Washington Generals of courtroom litigators.


Seriously what else is he supposed to do? Everyone hates him already so why not do everything you can to try to keep power?
 

Capdanjou

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Seriously what else is he supposed to do? Everyone hates him already so why not do everything you can to try to keep power?
At this point we need a better word than unprecedented. I use the word "objective" a lot, probably because I don't expect to change political views, but I do believe that no matter your views on policy at the very least we can try to apply some objectivity when discussing these matters.

Objectively, the near total failure in courtrooms across the nation should be a pretty clear indication that the legal claims being made by Trump's lawyers are incredibly flimsy. Fraud exists and should be addressed, but what Trump is alleging in public as "rampant" or "widespread" in fact lacks substantial evidence. Objectively, Democrats wanted to prove Russia collusion, but lacked evidence. I don't see this as being any different.

From what I can gather, the legal argument with the sturdiest foundation appears to be regarding who has the authority to set election rules. And it's possible that Trump would have won that argument had he filed suit before the election. He had months to challenge the rules change in Pennsylvania, for example, and he didn't. To emphasize the point, several decisions against him cite "a complete failure to act with due diligence."

Bottom line, and objectively, Trump is arguing the votes of his rival should not count based on widespread voter fraud, which he has failed to prove, and laws that he had every opportunity to challenge before the election, and failed to do. Judges, even his appointees, describe the remedy his seeks as a retroactive attempt to disenfranchise millions of voters who cast ballots according rules provided by their states.

We can debate the merits of democracy, but assuming that most everyone in this forum believes in democracy, what Trump is attempting to do is decidedly anti-democratic.
 

I M HIPPY

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this demonstrates proof yet another ward of the gov't has turned to poo

every single thing you mentioned is already done better by the private sector. everything. laws & regs are reactionary so the gov't can justify its beak wetting.

daddy loves you very much. washington cares deeply for your wants and needs.
Again, you don't know what you are talking about. Nor do you give any examples. Anyone who suggests that laws and regs are reactionary so the gov can justify making money is obviously not understanding how the world works. I don't blame you, since 1980 the Right-wing has made "the Gov is the enemy" a central part of their politics. Seriously, you don't know what you are talking about. Look into it yourself. Its hard to compare Gov services to Private sector, because the Gov serves everyone, and Private Sector does not. However, you'll find Gov is much more efficient. Compare the admin fees in a typical Mutual Fund vs admin fees for Social Security. Same thing with Postal Service vs private sector. Health care costs in US are 5 x as high as health care systems in other countries, and we have poorer health outcomes. What does that tell you about private sector. I vote for candidates who are concerned about the wants and needs of the working class. The Dems in general suck at this as well, but there are certainly some Dem pol's who have the best interest of those making less than 100k a year in mind. If you think that is the Republican party, the only thing I can tell you is that you've been misled.
 

I M HIPPY

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Your pageantry is super cringey my friend. No one is going to take you seriously with all of the flamboyant ******** you include in your responses.
I tried my message in grunts and shoulder shrugs. Hands in pockets. Looked hard into the distance and drooled a bit. You know, the language you are fluent in. I couldn't find the right buttons on my keyboard. If you don't know what a word means, ask me and I'll explain it to you.
 

huskernation1973

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So you think Covid, not the black plague by the way, was just waiting in line at Ellis Island for the crack of dawn on Feb 6th to make its way over?

Don't even try and deflect the point dude, the point being the whole impeachment was a colossal waste of time and money. Getting off the gold standard was not smart for the longevity of the currency either as it pertains to the party screw ups financially....

Which is what I was pointing out. It is a sad truth that absolute worst screw ups and damage done to our economy, and damage done to liberty as it pertains to adhering to the spirit of the Declaration of Independence and Liberty itself was and is still actively being done by one party....financially speaking.

I'm not a fan of the patriot act in it's unrestricted use and in perpetual existence either, which that gem come from the right side of the aisle. Federal power needs checked by expiration dates and the scopes limiting.
No, I don't think it was waiting at Ellis Island. However, it is utter ********, regardless of whether or not it was a waste of money, to excuse Trump's inaction on COVID because of a trial he played zero part in, and that ended on Feb. 5th.

2/5/20- Trump acquitted of impeachment charges.
2/26/20- Trump says that case numbers were going down, not up. The 15 cases in the US will soon be down to zero.
2/27/20- Trump says that it will one day just disappear like a miracle.
3/4/20- Trump tells us that people get better by sitting around, and some got better by going to work.
3/5/20- Trump denies saying that people got better by going to work.
3/6/20- Trump says that anyone that needs a test can get one (false at that time).
3/6/20- Trump claims that people tell him how marveled they are about how well he gets "this stuff".
3/9/20- Trump claims that virus blindsided the world.

So, how is it again that a trial that ended before he said all of this stuff caused his idiocy when it came to the COVID?
 
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Again, you don't know what you are talking about. Nor do you give any examples. Anyone who suggests that laws and regs are reactionary so the gov can justify making money is obviously not understanding how the world works. I don't blame you, since 1980 the Right-wing has made "the Gov is the enemy" a central part of their politics. Seriously, you don't know what you are talking about. Look into it yourself. Its hard to compare Gov services to Private sector, because the Gov serves everyone, and Private Sector does not. However, you'll find Gov is much more efficient. Compare the admin fees in a typical Mutual Fund vs admin fees for Social Security. Same thing with Postal Service vs private sector. Health care costs in US are 5 x as high as health care systems in other countries, and we have poorer health outcomes. What does that tell you about private sector. I vote for candidates who are concerned about the wants and needs of the working class. The Dems in general suck at this as well, but there are certainly some Dem pol's who have the best interest of those making less than 100k a year in mind. If you think that is the Republican party, the only thing I can tell you is that you've been misled.
there is no small gov't party. people who vote down party lines are incapable of thinking critically.

you really think the gov't creates regulation and law prior to inventions & innovations by the private sector? get a clue.

what examples would you like? private school? fedex? private shipping lanes? I can go on and on and on and on.

private sector serves everybody, too. and they do it better because they're incentivized to do so.
 

nu2u

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Seriously what else is he supposed to do? Everyone hates him already so why not do everything you can to try to keep power?
What is he supposed to do? Quite filing frivolous lawsuits. He lost.

All 50 states have certified their election results. Biden won the Electoral Vote 306-232, a landslide, and received the most votes of any presidential candidate in US history, 7 miliion more than Trump. Its over.

Trump/GOP's legal arguments have failed. Badly. No finding of widespread fraud or election irregularities.

Conservative judges, ultra-conservative judges, Trump-appointed judges, state court judges, federal court judges, state and federal appellate judges - all have expressly rejected Trump/GOP legal claims. He's done.
 

WHCSC

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What is he supposed to do? Quite filing frivolous lawsuits. He lost.

All 50 states have certified their election results. Biden won the Electoral Vote 306-232, a landslide, and received the most votes of any presidential candidate in US history, 7 miliion more than Trump. Its over.

Trump/GOP's legal arguments have failed. Badly. No finding of widespread fraud or election irregularities.

Conservative judges, ultra-conservative judges, Trump-appointed judges, state court judges, federal court judges, state and federal appellate judges - all have expressly rejected Trump/GOP legal claims. He's done.
Everyone knows he lost including him but why wouldn’t he fight it as long as he can? It’s what he does.
 

nu2u

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Everyone knows he lost including him but why wouldn’t he fight it as long as he can?
Why? So he can swindle the suckers contributing money to his legal defense fund.
 
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What is this jackass AG from Texas doing suing battleground states ON BEHALF OF TEXAS? Texas trying to meddle in the outcome of election in other states? Just a small window into the self important myopic lunacy that is all too common down there. Shitkickers with necks like a stack of dimes, cowboy hats three sizes too large, and belt buckles bigger than granny's nipples. The BBQ is top notch tho. KC and Memphis and Carolina can go kick rocks. Texas BBQ is the ****. Everything else down there is simply the *****. Important distinction.
Don't worry it will just be kicked out by the courts like the other 40 or so that have been rejected by the courts. It's fun to watch all the losing........
 

leodisflowers

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It does show you where or country is at. We now have a idiot who doesn't even know where he is at most of the time as President. Also another nutjob is waiting in the wings to have him go down so she can drive this country straight into the ground. Either way, time to move on, but I do find it comical that Biden's Covid policy is basically Trump's plan, but yet the media lauds him like he came up with something new. His main points are:

1. I will distribute 100M doses of vaccine at the start of my inauguration! Welp... That will probably already be in progress

2. The virus will wane underneath my leadership!!! Welp, all of the experts are already saying that. December and January will be bad, but with a vaccine, better treatment options and it burning through a lot of the population the numbers will already be waning by the time he is in office.

3. I'm going to push a mask mandate and the majority of Americans will be wearing masks! You will need to wear them on public transportation! Welp, these are already in place and polling has shown that a large majority of Americans already wear masks....

Ole plagarism Joe just making Trump's policy his own.
 

6OSK3RS

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I tried my message in grunts and shoulder shrugs. Hands in pockets. Looked hard into the distance and drooled a bit. You know, the language you are fluent in. I couldn't find the right buttons on my keyboard. If you don't know what a word means, ask me and I'll explain it to you.
Yes, more insults. Just know that your "harmless" hate fuels people like that cnut Cynthia Johnson to make statements like she did just the other day. What you and many other democrats are experiencing is called perceived superiority. That is dangerous.
 

HuskerO58

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A message from President-elect Biden's top campaign litigator........



1-55. Trump's legal team are now officially the Washington Generals of courtroom litigators.


I remember not too long ago when the media hacks, leftists & democrats cried that Trump was going to destroy America's court system. Looks like their outrage was ridiculous.
 

HuskerO58

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No, I don't think it was waiting at Ellis Island. However, it is utter ********, regardless of whether or not it was a waste of money, to excuse Trump's inaction on COVID because of a trial he played zero part in, and that ended on Feb. 5th.

2/5/20- Trump acquitted of impeachment charges.
2/26/20- Trump says that case numbers were going down, not up. The 15 cases in the US will soon be down to zero.
2/27/20- Trump says that it will one day just disappear like a miracle.
3/4/20- Trump tells us that people get better by sitting around, and some got better by going to work.
3/5/20- Trump denies saying that people got better by going to work.
3/6/20- Trump says that anyone that needs a test can get one (false at that time).
3/6/20- Trump claims that people tell him how marveled they are about how well he gets "this stuff".
3/9/20- Trump claims that virus blindsided the world.

So, how is it again that a trial that ended before he said all of this stuff caused his idiocy when it came to the COVID?
If you're going to create a timeline at least include the positive thing Trump did as well otherwise you just look like a partisan hack. Shutting down travel to/from China (Dems cried about), C19 task force, brought on Fauci, Warp Speeding, etc.

Also, don't forget that Democrats were making similar remarks (Pelosi encouraging people to go out) & also failed to act within their own states (NYC didn't shut down their subways until May, well after they were getting hammered).
 

dinglefritz

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Hunter Biden took billions from the Chinese of which Joe was supposed to get 10B. Representative Swolwell was sleeping with a Chinese intern (spy) while on the House intelligence committee (sic). Swolwell was out front on the Russian collusion claims for the Democrats shortly after that. Sad day for out country when Joe got elected.
 

dinglefritz

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If you're going to create a timeline at least include the positive thing Trump did as well otherwise you just look like a partisan hack. Shutting down travel to/from China (Dems cried about), C19 task force, brought on Fauci, Warp Speeding, etc.

Also, don't forget that Democrats were making similar remarks (Pelosi encouraging people to go out) & also failed to act within their own states (NYC didn't shut down their subways until May, well after they were getting hammered).
New York never shut down the subways. They started shutting them down for an hour or two every night to clean them.
 

HuskerO58

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New York never shut down the subways. They started shutting them down for an hour or two every night to clean them.
Yup. I'm sure it's Trump's fault in some fashion as to why they stayed open for so long killing everyday Americans.
 

Capdanjou

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Hunter Biden took billions from the Chinese of which Joe was supposed to get 10B. Representative Swolwell was sleeping with a Chinese intern (spy) while on the House intelligence committee (sic). Swolwell was out front on the Russian collusion claims for the Democrats shortly after that. Sad day for out country when Joe got elected.
I like your insight on Husker sports, but your political commentary is consistently hot garbage. Joe is an uninspiring president, to be sure, but you keep missing the point of his election win. It was never about Joe, it was always about the rejection of Trump.
 

SLOHusker

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What is he supposed to do? Quite filing frivolous lawsuits. He lost.

All 50 states have certified their election results. Biden won the Electoral Vote 306-232, a landslide, and received the most votes of any presidential candidate in US history, 7 miliion more than Trump. Its over.

Trump/GOP's legal arguments have failed. Badly. No finding of widespread fraud or election irregularities.

Conservative judges, ultra-conservative judges, Trump-appointed judges, state court judges, federal court judges, state and federal appellate judges - all have expressly rejected Trump/GOP legal claims. He's done.
There is widespread evidence of voter fraud. And the lawsuits have merit, especially in Pennsylvania. Alan Dershowitz (probably the most respected lawyer in the entire country) says that if the case is taken up by the Supreme Court, Trump will likely win. They are stuck on technicalities, like the date the lawsuit was filed. In Georgia it's now impossible to directly tie ballots to signatures, but just doing a signature validation will give an indication of how F'd up the process was and how many phony ballots were cast. The SOS in Georgia knows he F'd up and won't do it because it will expose his own incompetence and the ease with which corrupt Democrats pushed the governor, etc to change laws to work in their favor. The same is true of ballot dumps in Detroit, Milwaukee, etc. The election was a crock of phony **** and you or CNN telling me otherwise won't change that. If they do the signature validation and show the results in a transparent manner it will go a long way toward winning over people like me. But they won't.
BTW, 306-232 is not a landslide or even close. The margins of victory were relatively slim in several states with large electoral counts and it's only 2 or three to reverse the results. Trump won 2-3 of the largest population states, and an equal number of states. 74 million votes would also have won every other election in history. It still remains a mystery (outside of fraud) why Biden performed worse in every location than Hillary other than a select few important metro areas.
 
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No, I don't think it was waiting at Ellis Island. However, it is utter ********, regardless of whether or not it was a waste of money, to excuse Trump's inaction on COVID because of a trial he played zero part in, and that ended on Feb. 5th.

2/5/20- Trump acquitted of impeachment charges.
2/26/20- Trump says that case numbers were going down, not up. The 15 cases in the US will soon be down to zero.
2/27/20- Trump says that it will one day just disappear like a miracle.
3/4/20- Trump tells us that people get better by sitting around, and some got better by going to work.
3/5/20- Trump denies saying that people got better by going to work.
3/6/20- Trump says that anyone that needs a test can get one (false at that time).
3/6/20- Trump claims that people tell him how marveled they are about how well he gets "this stuff".
3/9/20- Trump claims that virus blindsided the world.

So, how is it again that a trial that ended before he said all of this stuff caused his idiocy when it came to the COVID?


Lets be clear here. I don't want any government officials telling how and what to do with regards to my daily routine. All Dementia Joe is going to do is mandate this and mandate that.

This isn't the second coming of the black death.

This is probably going to be with us into perpetuity like the common cold and flu so time to quit freaking out about it. If you are susceptible then your rear end needs to be sheltered in place or just give up trying to control what you cannot let alone shove everyone else under your thumb.

This isn't something our politicians to include Trump engineered, or can control so there is no one to blame for the virus getting here. Masks we were told do not work, which is why I donated all my 95s to the local hospital. Boy was I lied to huh? Because now they say they work... Then its they don't unless you know what you're doing... And people are just not going to do what you need to do in order for them to be effective.

So stop responding to me about Covid I don't care about Covid. You know what you need to do to protect yourself. You stay in your corner and I'll stay in mine with regards to Covid.

I was responding to the financial issue.

Capiche?...
 

6OSK3RS

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I agree, that's where I'll be when the shvt hits the fan and the states start to secede.
I just don't see that happening. It was "easy" during the Civil War because it was north vs south, but now it's much more complicated.
 
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I just don't see that happening. It was "easy" during the Civil War because it was north vs south, but now it's much more complicated.
I don't see it happening either, but if it does, Texas (with Oklahoma) are the best equipped to be he first ones to do it on their own.
 

Mr.Scary13

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Hunter Biden took billions from the Chinese of which Joe was supposed to get 10B. Representative Swolwell was sleeping with a Chinese intern (spy) while on the House intelligence committee (sic). Swolwell was out front on the Russian collusion claims for the Democrats shortly after that. Sad day for out country when Joe got elected.

He won't be in office come January
 

dm1330

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What is this jackass AG from Texas doing suing battleground states ON BEHALF OF TEXAS? Texas trying to meddle in the outcome of election in other states? Just a small window into the self important myopic lunacy that is all too common down there. Shitkickers with necks like a stack of dimes, cowboy hats three sizes too large, and belt buckles bigger than granny's nipples. The BBQ is top notch tho. KC and Memphis and Carolina can go kick rocks. Texas BBQ is the ****. Everything else down there is simply the *****. Important distinction.
Texas is a great state with good people but yes we do have some real jerks who are our elected officials. Whenever you have one political party, regardless of the party, it becomes a very bad situation.
 

huskernation1973

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If you're going to create a timeline at least include the positive thing Trump did as well otherwise you just look like a partisan hack. Shutting down travel to/from China (Dems cried about), C19 task force, brought on Fauci, Warp Speeding, etc.

Also, don't forget that Democrats were making similar remarks (Pelosi encouraging people to go out) & also failed to act within their own states (NYC didn't shut down their subways until May, well after they were getting hammered).
You mean the ban from China that still allowed 40,000+ people in after it was announced...or the ban on travel from the EU, which occurred 6 weeks later---you know, the continent from which NYC's early cases originated?

Besides, your missing the point. Someone claimed that Trump's inaction on COVID was due to the impeachment trial. That's what I was responding to-- the utter ******** of that theory.

Yeah, I'll give him credit for bringing on Fauci. I'd give him even more credit if he spent more time deferring to Fauci, instead of trying to counter what he said.
 

huskernation1973

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Lets be clear here. I don't want any government officials telling how and what to do with regards to my daily routine. All Dementia Joe is going to do is mandate this and mandate that.

This isn't the second coming of the black death.

This is probably going to be with us into perpetuity like the common cold and flu so time to quit freaking out about it. If you are susceptible then your rear end needs to be sheltered in place or just give up trying to control what you cannot let alone shove everyone else under your thumb.

This isn't something our politicians to include Trump engineered, or can control so there is no one to blame for the virus getting here. Masks we were told do not work, which is why I donated all my 95s to the local hospital. Boy was I lied to huh? Because now they say they work... Then its they don't unless you know what you're doing... And people are just not going to do what you need to do in order for them to be effective.

So stop responding to me about Covid I don't care about Covid. You know what you need to do to protect yourself. You stay in your corner and I'll stay in mine with regards to Covid.

I was responding to the financial issue.

Capiche?...
How do you arrive at the conclusion that I am freaking out about COVID, or think that it is the second coming of the Black Death?

All I said was that blaming Trump's idiocy on dealing with COVID on impeachment is ********.
 

TampaBaySkers

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Yes, more insults. Just know that your "harmless" hate fuels people like that cnut Cynthia Johnson to make statements like she did just the other day. What you and many other democrats are experiencing is called perceived superiority. That is dangerous.

What Cynthia did is the definition of fascism. For those clowns on this board that don’t understand what fascism means you now have real world example.
 

HuskerO58

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You mean the ban from China that still allowed 40,000+ people in after it was announced...or the ban on travel from the EU, which occurred 6 weeks later---you know, the continent from which NYC's early cases originated?

Besides, your missing the point. Someone claimed that Trump's inaction on COVID was due to the impeachment trial. That's what I was responding to-- the utter ******** of that theory.

Yeah, I'll give him credit for bringing on Fauci. I'd give him even more credit if he spent more time deferring to Fauci, instead of trying to counter what he said.
You mean the 40,000+ United States citizens? Not just "people" but actual US citizens. Sounds like you're upset that Trump didn't take it further and ban US citizens from coming back to the mainland. Of course we both know that if he had done that you'd be completely outraged.

Yes, and once Trump stopped travel from the EU the WaPo came out with an article claiming the travel ban caused chaos. There's no winning with you guys.

The virus concern was going on prior to Feb 5th. Trump said as much on his Feb 4th SOTUA so it's fair to say he was dealing with both impeachment and C19 at the same time.

Could he have taken more action? Of course, but when you take into context of what the virus was doing at the time & what was known about it at that time, he took reasonable steps. Really why would anyone have taken more steps with so little information at that time? You guys act like the information we have today was available and known back in Jan, Feb, March & April.
 
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Capdanjou

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What Cynthia did is the definition of fascism. For those clowns on this board that don’t understand what fascism means you now have real world example.
It's pretty clear that you are taking a very narrow view of what fascism is or has been throughout history. Fascism is characterized by "extreme militaristic nationalism, contempt for electoral democracy and political and cultural liberalism." That is straight from the book my friend. Between the two parties, these unquestionably describe the Republican party under Trump. The two areas where we might find some room for debate are the rule of elites and subordination of individual interests for the good of the nation. But we could debate them and find examples on either side of the aisle.
 
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