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Mac9192

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its easy to be against Iran from behind a mic....but once something is done in the manner in which it has been done and the cost of life, the disruption of our lives (pump), and the money being spent w/o showing no real plan and leadership, just bluster.....its obvious why those before took sane advice and use sanctions and diplomacy to keep them at bay
This post of yours is proof of party politics. You said nothing the last four years about lack of leadership, but now that Trump is in office, suddenly the President is criticized. I did it too with Biden. We watch the news that is going to say what we want them to. Fox and Newsmax have their viewers, and so do CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC. You can watch Fox for 20 minutes and think Trump parted the Red Sea. Flip it to CNN and you'd think Trump is Satan's brother.

I swear I think it's all planned this way. The media divide filters to us out here being divided. All to keep us fighting with each other, while both sides get wealthier. It's been said thousands of times: they spend millions to make $200 thousand a year. Yet somehow they manage to be worth millions within 10 years. But the other side is the evil one.
 
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AcnYoda

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This post of yours is proof of party politics. You said nothing the last four years about lack of leadership, but now that Trump is in office, suddenly the President is criticized. I did it too with Biden. We watch the news that is going to say what we want them to. Fox and Newsmax have their viewers, and so do CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC. You can watch Fox for 20 minutes and think Trump parted the Red Sea. Flip it to CNN and you'd think Trump is Satan's brother.

I swear I think it's all planned this way. The media divide filters to us out here being divided. All to keep us fighting with each other, while both sides get wealthier. It's been said thousands of times: they spend millions to make $200 thousand a year. Yet somehow they manage to be worth millions within 10 years. But the other side is the evil one.
I agree they do this intentionally in the media by design to divide us. But the truth is always the truth. The IRGC is a satanic cult of a power and like Nazi’s needs to be destroyed!! Their entire religion is based upon bringing their GOD, the antichrist bsck riding on a Whitehorse to rule the earth for 7 years, based where? In Jarusalem. Everything that’s happening is in the Bible, it’s prophetic. And we need to destroy the IRGC or they plan to bring End times to the world and they aren’t hiding this. It’s who they are and what they say and believe.
 
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Mac9192

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I agree they do this intentionally in the media by design to divide us. But the truth is always the truth. The IRGC is a satanic cult of a power and like Nazi’s needs to be destroyed!! Their entire religion is based upon bringing their GOD, the antichrist bsck riding on a Whitehorse to rule the earth for 7 years, based where? In Jarusalem. Everything that’s happening is in the Bible, it’s prophetic. And we need to destroy the IRGC or they plan to bring End times to the world and they aren’t hiding this. It’s who they are and what they say and believe.
I haven't kept up with much of what's going on with the world. I believe Iran is an evil place. But I also say this: I love our country, but despise the government.
 

BOOGIEMAN1914

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True. It’s easy to use sactions and kick the can down the road, both parties presidents did this since the 80’s. Obviously it didn’t work. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a diffeent result. 40,000+ innocent Iranians were just slaughtered by this regime? Do their lives matter too? They don’t want this regime running their county. Do we help them if we can?

what if continued sanctions ultimately don’t work and Iran build 10 nuclear bombs and drops one on Israel, the UAE, or other countries? Killing tens of millions of people? Then what? This argument about kicking the can down the road didn’t work, sanctions didn’t work, the only thing this insane regime responds to are threats and action. We needed to bomb them to smithereens and we did. This president and military of ours should be Celebrated. Not criticized and condemned. That’s my take on it. Yes we lost the lives of 13 great patriots but they potentially saved the lives of millions. Their families are proud and reportedly told the President to Finish the job. I agree.
i get your what ifs.........so far since way back then getting a nuke hasn't happened yet.....shouldn't that be a NATO led coalition in regards to the regime harming its own citizens
 

DuckDevil

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@AcnYoda

Where to begin? I’ll say this in the nicest way possible, you have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about. The timelines you lay out about Iran running out of money, the regime collapsing, and the impact on the world economy are completely detached from reality.

You consistently overestimate the US position and underestimate the Iranian position. That might play well with @KDSTONE and others consuming the same propaganda, but it’s not rooted in the real world. You present best case outcomes as guaranteed without accounting for any risk whatsoever.

“Iran runs out of money in days or weeks without oil exports”

This is wrong. Does it hurt Iran? Absolutely, but not to the level you’re describing. Iran has spent decades building sanctions workarounds, shadow oil markets, and reserve buffers. Oil is critical, but it’s not instant collapse critical.

You’re assuming other countries will work in lockstep with Trump to punish Iran. It’s the only way his strategy would work, but that’s not what’s actually happening. Recent history suggests world leaders would be wise to openly oppose him. He’s a lame duck and deeply unpopular in his own country, and even more unpopular worldwide. Look at what just happened to Viktor Orban. The pendulum is swinging against Trumpism and Trump. Openly opposing him is good politics in much of the world.

History shows that countries break ranks the moment their own economies are at risk, as they are now. As this situation increasingly threatens the global economy, countries will bypass the US to secure their own energy supplies, including our allies.

What happens to the US economy when countries do that? Russia and China have supported Iran quietly so far, but that won’t stay quiet forever because neither benefits from global economic instability. They will prop up the Iranian regime as a check on the US.

You also claim an oil shutdown cripples them for a year. That’s not accurate. Some fields can be damaged by shutdowns, but Iran’s entire system isn’t going offline for a year. Oil, even at reduced levels, will continue to move. Asia is too dependent on Iranian supply for that not to happen.

“The US can take and control Kharg Island”

This is also unrealistic. The US military could take and hold Kharg Island, but you ignore what comes next. Any US presence there would be sitting in Iran’s backyard, within range of artillery, rockets, ballistic missiles, and drones.

Every resupply, every defensive system, and every soldier is exposed. Every escalation you’re proposing invites a response, and you’re ignoring what that response looks like. If Iran’s oil infrastructure is seized or destroyed, they respond by targeting oil infrastructure across the region.

“Global impact is minimal, just slightly higher gas prices”

There is no scenario where removing millions of barrels from global supply doesn’t send shockwaves through every major economy. You’re treating oil markets like they only affect gas prices, when they actually impact every sector of the economy.

It drives up food, shipping, and the overall cost of living. Why would Russia and China tolerate that? Or any country? Why would US citizens tolerate that when Trump campaigned on lowering inflation and avoiding new foreign wars? They wouldn’t and they won’t in November. The IRGC isn’t the only player here with a ticking clock.

Look at the last two days. Iran refused to return to negotiations, and Trump extended the ceasefire indefinitely. He didn’t escalate. What does that tell you?

Last week, details about the negotiations started to leak. What’s being discussed sure looks a lot like a rebranded JCPOA. If that’s where this ends, with the IRGC still in power, maintaining missile capability and enrichment capacity, giving them $20 billion, with dead American soldiers and destroyed US bases and embassies, people are going to be pissed. It won’t matter what lies Trump tells about it.

Iran’s path has always been simple. They don’t have to win, they just have to not lose and hold out long enough to make a deal. They know the economic pressure doesn’t just hit them, it hits everyone. Trump knows that too, and that’s why he keeps freaking out every few days on Truth Social.

US influence is already taking a hit as our allies openly defy Trump and countries start working around us. The post World War II order that benefited the US for decades is being weakened/destroyed in real time.

To sum it up, your timelines are detached from reality, you ignore global economic and geopolitical consequences, and you assume outcomes that history has never supported. Are you high when you post this stuff? This only touches a few of your talking points; several are just too insane to respond to.
 
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AcnYoda

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@AcnYoda

Where to begin? I’ll say this in the nicest way possible, you have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about. The timelines you lay out about Iran running out of money, the regime collapsing, and the impact on the world economy are completely detached from reality.

You consistently overestimate the US position and underestimate the Iranian position. That might play well with @KDSTONE and others consuming the same propaganda, but it’s not rooted in the real world. You present best case outcomes as guaranteed without accounting for any risk whatsoever.

“Iran runs out of money in days or weeks without oil exports”

This is wrong. Does it hurt Iran? Absolutely, but not to the level you’re describing. Iran has spent decades building sanctions workarounds, shadow oil markets, and reserve buffers. Oil is critical, but it’s not instant collapse critical.

You’re assuming other countries will work in lockstep with Trump to punish Iran. It’s the only way his strategy would work, but that’s not what’s actually happening. Recent history suggests world leaders would be wise to openly oppose him. He’s a lame duck and deeply unpopular in his own country, and even more unpopular worldwide. Look at what just happened to Viktor Orban. The pendulum is swinging against Trumpism and Trump. Openly opposing him is good politics in much of the world.

History shows that countries break ranks the moment their own economies are at risk, as they are now. As this situation increasingly threatens the global economy, countries will bypass the US to secure their own energy supplies, including our allies.

What happens to the US economy when countries do that? Russia and China have supported Iran quietly so far, but that won’t stay quiet forever because neither benefits from global economic instability. They will prop up the Iranian regime as a check on the US.

You also claim an oil shutdown cripples them for a year. That’s not accurate. Some fields can be damaged by shutdowns, but Iran’s entire system isn’t going offline for a year. Oil, even at reduced levels, will continue to move. Asia is too dependent on Iranian supply for that not to happen.

“The US can take and control Kharg Island”

This is also unrealistic. The US military could take and hold Kharg Island, but you ignore what comes next. Any US presence there would be sitting in Iran’s backyard, within range of artillery, rockets, ballistic missiles, and drones.

Every resupply, every defensive system, and every soldier is exposed. Every escalation you’re proposing invites a response, and you’re ignoring what that response looks like. If Iran’s oil infrastructure is seized or destroyed, they respond by targeting oil infrastructure across the region.

“Global impact is minimal, just slightly higher gas prices”

There is no scenario where removing millions of barrels from global supply doesn’t send shockwaves through every major economy. You’re treating oil markets like they only affect gas prices, when they actually impact every sector of the economy.

It drives up food, shipping, and the overall cost of living. Why would Russia and China tolerate that? Or any country? Why would US citizens tolerate that when Trump campaigned on lowering inflation and avoiding new foreign wars? They wouldn’t and they won’t in November. The IRGC isn’t the only player here with a ticking clock.

Look at the last two days. Iran refused to return to negotiations, and Trump extended the ceasefire indefinitely. He didn’t escalate. What does that tell you?

Last week, details about the negotiations started to leak. What’s being discussed sure looks a lot like a rebranded JCPOA. If that’s where this ends, with the IRGC still in power, maintaining missile capability and enrichment capacity, giving them $20 billion, with dead American soldiers and destroyed US bases and embassies, people are going to be pissed. It won’t matter what lies Trump tells about it.

Iran’s path has always been simple. They don’t have to win, they just have to not lose and hold out long enough to make a deal. They know the economic pressure doesn’t just hit them, it hits everyone. Trump knows that too, and that’s why he keeps freaking out every few days on Truth Social.

US influence is already taking a hit as our allies openly defy Trump and countries start working around us. The post World War II order that benefited the US for decades is being weakened/destroyed in real time.

To sum it up, your timelines are detached from reality, you ignore global economic and geopolitical consequences, and you assume outcomes that history has never supported. Are you high when you post this stuff? This only touches a few of your talking points; several are just too insane to respond to.
I could be wrong, maybe Iran is in a better financial position than everyone online and just about all the tv hosts suggest? I don’t read truth, social, I’m not necessarily pro Republican or pro Democrat, so all of those talking points that you and others like to discredit yourselves by pointing out don’t work with me. I voted for Clinton, I loved Reagan, I actually liked Ross Perot, and I support the total destruction of the IRGC as you should too, and I think you do. I’m not Blue or Red, I’m red white and Blue. Pro America.

Just about everyone on both sides reporting online is suggesting that with the straight closed, Iran is losing $500 million a day, I don’t know about you, but most of us losing $500 million a day cannot sustain those losses for very long. The US does not consume any oil from over there., that’s China’s problem, they should be pushing for the straight to be open. Instead of sending them weapons.

But either way, you could be right or I could be right or we both could be wrong.. Let’s revisit this in a week or two and see what happens.? I’m betting that what’s going to happen is that they’re going to come to an agreement, they’re going to let us take out the enriched Uranium, and one way or another, they’re going to be subjected to inspections and have their missile program dismantled or further degraded. That’s what I think is going to happen. And that’s what a lot of so-called online experts are saying. But like I said only time will tell what happens.

I would imagine that eventually the two sides will work things out and come to some sort of an agreement. But at the end of the day, I know what Trump and the US wants is for Iran to have no chance that the IRGC gets a nuclear bomb. Because if they got one, they would use it to kill millions of innocent people. I hope I responded respectfully also. You make a lot of great points. You went way deeper than me. I just want the IRGC degraded and destroyed.
 

DuckDevil

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Canadian Lol GIF
 

AcnYoda

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Nov 11, 2017
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i get your what ifs.........so far since way back then getting a nuke hasn't happened yet.....shouldn't that be a NATO led coalition in regards to the regime harming its own citizens
NATO nor anyone else has been willing or able to stop this crazy regime from persuing its nuclear ambitions. But yes, they should be handling that, it’s too big a job for them. Similar to the Nazis of World War II., these people are lunatics they don’t care if they die, to them, that’s a promotion, their only goal is to kill all of the Jews, like the Nazi’s tried and almost succeeded in doing, and to then destroy America. That’s their goal.

So, since somebody had to have the courage to take on and dismantle this evil psychotic regime? It might as well be the US and Israel. And we are doing it very strategically. I’m pleased with the outcome so far. I think now we starve the regime for a few more weeks, if they break the ceasefire, we bomb the crap out of them more, we take Karg island, and we show them who’s boss. They wouldn’t even be this strong except for past presidents kept kicking the can down the road. And now it’s a now or never situation.
 

Ghost of Dattier

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Now suddenly, Tucker is against it? What changed? Please explain? If anything, the IRGC has now proven to be even more crazy and dangerous than ever before. So suddenly these news clowns are taking a polar opposite position? The only logical reason. Money. Some politicians like Chris Moron Murphy/ Same thing. He’s prettt much Pro Iran now.
The tone is going to go downhill very fast if you insist on using juvenile nicknames like "Moron Murphy."

What changed is that (1) it wasn't an urgent matter; (2) our President has no plan; (3) we've made an absolutely abhorrent regime look sympathetic to the rest of the world by bombing a school on day one and using the threat of war crimes against the Iranian people and civilization; (4) we did not build any coalition or support; (5) we've insulted and abused allies; (6) inflation, groceries, and gas were already straining us and now they're all worse; (7) the tune keeps changing.

I'm probably forgetting several more things. As has been said here repeatedly, everyone knows Iran was a problem. That does not justify attempting regime change at all costs, with no clear strategy.

And none of that means some kind of dark Soros money is behind it! That's such a copout. It requires no proof on your part. It's lazy.
 
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