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KDSTONE

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I agree, every president has wanted to do this, but relented from what I've read because of the advice and ramifications that it would do to region


Previous US administrations have avoided invading Iran due to the immense strategic, financial, and human costs, the likelihood of a prolonged, unstable insurgency, and the severe risk of regional destabilization. Iran’s mountainous terrain, significant military capability, and regional proxy networks pose daunting challenges compared to previous interventions in Iraq or Afghanistan.
  • Risk of Regional War: An invasion could trigger a wide Middle East conflict, threatening allies, disrupting 20% of global oil exports via the Strait of Hormuz, and triggering attacks on US bases.
  • Failed Military Experience: Memories of difficult, long-term engagements in Iraq and Afghanistan caused hesitation, as military analysts doubted a quick victory was possible.
  • Lack of Ally Support: Regional partners, including Gulf nations (Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain), were reluctant to support a war that could invite Iranian retaliation on their soil.
  • Geographical and Military Challenges: Iran’s size, population, and topography, combined with its specialized defenses, make a successful ground invasion extremely difficult and costly.
  • Lack of Domestic Support: The American public has shown little appetite for another large-scale conflict.
  • Strategic Alternatives: Presidents preferred containment, economic sanctions, and diplomatic negotiations (like the JCPOA) to manage Iran's influence and nuclear ambitions, rather than direct invasion.
Historically, while Iran was considered a state sponsor of terrorism, these risks outweighed the perceived benefits of a full-scale invasion
I don’t foresee boots on the ground unless it’s a limited special ops to secure the enriched uranium if Iran is unwilling to turn it over.
 
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BOOGIEMAN1914

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May 15, 2007
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This is really good info, and looks all true. But nonetheless every president for 40+ years said this regime needed to be removed, or at least neutered. I don’t care if it’s a dem or red president that does this, I think it’s important to remove bad actors like this before they get a nuclear bomb and 100% use it on their neighbors, who would then have no choice but to destroy Iran too, and that’s $92m innocent Iranians killed. Nobody wants this outcome, so this had to happen sooner or later, and Trump is the only president who seems to have to courage or arrogance or whatever he has to remove or neuter this regime. And it’s about time.

just because policy wise I want this regime removed, doesn’t make it political for me. I pretty much distrust all politicians, I think they all are under the control of whichever donors are supporting them, blue and Red. But when either side does something good I’ll support it. And if a guy like Swalwell appears to allegedly have raped several women, while he’s married, with kids, I don’t support this if true. Again, not because of party, but because it’s WRONG. I want our country to be as strong and moral a country as we can possibly be. That’s my .02c.
Agree they all wanted to do more, but more than likely went with sound advice and rationality of particular outcomes imo....and to swalwell, if true he deserves the highest consequences under the law
 
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