The Great Replacement

MTTiger19

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Okay, so what I'm doing is providing data supporting my claim; it would be nice if you would support evidence backing your claim. I don't subscribe to the belief that the Biden administration was just opening the borders and shuttling immigrants to targeted states to impact the census as I haven't seen any such evidence to support it. I'm absolutely open to having my opinion changed, but I just haven't seen any credible evidence supporting the notion.
This is laughable. You see no correlation because you choose not to. Blue states are losing tax paying American citizens at an alarming rate. Specifically CA and NY. Those people moving impacts those states seats at the table in congress and the senate. A blue president and administration and governors of blue states claimed they were “sanctuary cities and states” (many against the very wishes of its own citizens) and all these “asylum seekers” ended up in those very states that were hemorrhaging real Americans, and were 100% counted in the census. And you’re claiming you’re not smart enough to see what’s going on? Wow. You are so naive to think this is altruism. It’s actually quite sad you’ve been manipulated by them so effectively. They’ve convinced you they’re altruistic, white knights when in reality this is about power and division. It’s tragic.
 

MTTiger19

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Its just a fact based on numbers and the actions leading to those numbers.
White population drops 50% in a couple of decades and you’re a nazi for simply noticing it. White countries being “diversified” with immigrants where over 90% of them are poc and you’re not allowed to notice, much less ask why. Why isn’t Dubai, Israel, India, China, Japan, Saudi Arabia, etc being asked to take some of the load, can’t ask that either. Why are the US, UK and Germany taking the vast majority of these asylum seekers while the majority of the citizens of those countries do not want that. These are all reasonable questions that should have some honest debate yet you can’t even acknowledge these facts without being called every name under the sun.
 

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White population drops 50% in a couple of decades and you’re a nazi for simply noticing it. White countries being “diversified” with immigrants where over 90% of them are poc and you’re not allowed to even notice that’s happening, much less ask why. Why isn’t Dubai, Israel, India, China, Japan, Saudi Arabia, etc being asked to take some of the load, can’t ask that either. Why are US, UK and Germany taking the vast majority of these asylum seekers while the majority of the citizens of those countries do not want that. These are all reasonable questions that should have some honest debate yet you can’t even acknowledge these facts without being called every name under the sun.
Amen. Time for everyone to know what's occurring and stop it.
 
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MTTiger19

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Amen. Time for everyone to know what's occurring and stop it.
Probably can’t stop it but at the very least it’s ok to acknowledge it. That’s what pisses me off. It’s ok for every other group of people on the planet to have positive feelings towards their group but white people. So weird. Like liberals literally want and expect white people to seemingly hate themselves. Sorry bros, I love my culture. I want to preserve it for my children. My white ancestors built the greatest country on planet earth and I’m not ashamed of them. I’m proud of my heritage and race.
 

TigerGrowls

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Probably can’t stop it but at the very least it’s ok to acknowledge it. That’s what pisses me off. It’s ok for every other group of people on the planet to have positive feelings towards their group but white people. So weird. Like liberals literally want and expect white people to seemingly hate themselves. Sorry bros, I love my culture. I want to preserve it for my children. My white ancestors built the greatest country on planet earth and I’m not ashamed of them. I’m proud of my heritage and race.
Steps to stop it.

Stop illegal immigration.
Deport illegals already here.
Improve the economy.
Make housing affordable.
Continue to increase spending power.
Encourage families in the taxcode.
Make America great again.

Problem will fix itself if most of this is put in place imo.
 

MTTiger19

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What did you wake up enraged about today?

That non-white people make money and do what they want with it? Unlike, white people who make money and do what they want with it?

I know your go to is to blame immigrants for all of the problems in the world. Maybe ask yourself why that is.
I still have no idea what this grievance laden posts point is. Any ideas? So I guess these non-whites aren’t being allowed to spend their money or something? Idk. Haven’t heard that or seen that argued.
 
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MTTiger19

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Not really, considering the US, UK, and to a far lesser extent, Germany, have all spent decades destabilizing the second and third world countries leading to mass immigration from those countries.. Those citizens aren't going to emigrate to other second or third world countries - they're going to want to go to the first world countries that offer the best chances for personal betterment.
So because of poor policies by government officials decades ago AND because the immigrants WANT to. That’s the reasoning you came up with to validate your argument lol. Brilliant point. I want a mansion and should get it because the government wasted my money 40 years ago. Seems pretty spot on with most liberal logic.
 
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I didn't say any of that; impressive misrepresentation of my statement. I also don't think that bitching about losing American "culture" is anything other than veiled attempts at pussyfooting around outright racism. What culture is it that you think is being wiped out?

How do you square the US spending the majority of a century destabilizing countries across the globe, and then acting surprised when the citizens who are the victims of that destabilization want to leave for greener pastures?

I'd recommend you do some introspection if you're seriously entertaining the "Great Replacement Theory", considering its roots and who its main champions are.
Sooo the US goes and destroys all these countries and ruins them, then those citizens of the destroyed countries are so upset with America they illegally sneak into America to live under this oppressive regime of nazi racists (under threat of arrest or deportation). Got it. Thanks for clarifying. I know that’s perfectly logical lol.
 

fatpiggy

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White population drops 50% in a couple of decades and you’re a nazi for simply noticing it. White countries being “diversified” with immigrants where over 90% of them are poc and you’re not allowed to notice, much less ask why. Why isn’t Dubai, Israel, India, China, Japan, Saudi Arabia, etc being asked to take some of the load, can’t ask that either. Why are the US, UK and Germany taking the vast majority of these asylum seekers while the majority of the citizens of those countries do not want that. These are all reasonable questions that should have some honest debate yet you can’t even acknowledge these facts without being called every name under the sun.
Everyone is allowed to be proud, celebrate, and protect their culture except Whites.
 
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Want to be proud to be black? Yeah that’s fine. Want to be proud to be Japanese. That’s fine. Want to be proud to be African that’s fine. Want to only support black owned businesses, Amazon will proudly display that on the home page.

Just don’t be proud to be white. Then you are a white Christian nationalist Nazi sympathizer proud boy.


The gig is up. It’s ok to be white and it’s ok to be proud to be white.
 
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Want to be proud to be black? Yeah that’s fine. Want to be proud to be Japanese. That’s fine. Want to be proud to be African that’s fine. Want to only support black owned businesses, Amazon will proudly display that on the home page.

Just don’t be proud to be white. Then you are a white Christian nationalist Nazi sympathizer proud boy.


The gig is up. It’s ok to be white and it’s ok to be proud to be white.
Bro I work for a huge company. Huge. They have groups for blacks only, latinx only, gay only, women only, Indian only. It’s wild. We have three flags at the corporate HQ flying at all times - American, state flag, and a pride flag - I am not joking. It’s so wild to hear constantly about inclusion and equity and be simultaneously blocked out and scapegoated for everything lol.
 
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MTTiger19

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Everyone is allowed to be proud, celebrate, and protect their culture except Whites.
Correct and the very acknowledgment of that fact is deemed racist. You’re not even allowed to notice it’s happening, certainly aren’t allowed to discuss it. I go into business that have signs that say women owned or Native American owned or black and proud all the damn time. Imagine the hysterics and outrage and airing of grievances if a little tire shop in Dillon SC put a sign on their shack that says white owned and proud. Such double standards, contradictions and inconsistencies. Yet we’re supposed to be equal right?
 

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Steps to stop it.

Stop illegal immigration.
Deport illegals already here.
Improve the economy.
Make housing affordable.
Continue to increase spending power.
Encourage families in the taxcode.
Make America great again.

Problem will fix itself if most of this is put in place imo.
I think focus on nuclear family, curtail immigration, make abortion harder, encourage women to be mothers and wives not boss babes is a great start. Incentivize the behavior you want to see. It works. Side note - it always cracks me up to hear libs talking about low birth rates like it’s in a vacuum. They never ask why!! Why are birth rates low - it’s because as a society we pushed women into the workforce and allow abortions for basically anything. On top of that we have a very shaky economy at best. If you know the why you can at least start working on a resolution. The answer is to fix the nation, so Americans will have more children, not import people that will. That’s a temporary band aid.

Edit - why do yall think Muslim people and countries have so many babies? No women working and no abortion. It’s pretty simple. Crazy this has to be explained.
 
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Whether we call this "the great replacement" or use another term is totally beside the point. Let's not get bogged down in semantic quibbles.

What matters is that in virtually every Western country, the share of the native white population, whose ancestors built those countries and Western civilization, is rapidly declining in favor of immigrants from backward, largely dysfunctional, and culturally incompatible societies who are often hostile toward the West.
 
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Ironically whites make up less than 15% of the entire human population, that number is shrinking - making them a minority. There are 195 countries in the world and less than 50 are majority white, that number is shrinking - minority. Yet white people are the oppressors and need diversity despite being outnumbered anywhere from 5:1 to 8:1. That’s the argument they are making. That shows the effectiveness of propaganda. 8 billion people. 1 billion whites.
 
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I still have no idea what this grievance laden posts point is. Any ideas? So I guess these non-whites aren’t being allowed to spend their money or something? Idk. Haven’t heard that or seen that argued.
Still rent free I see.

Clearly the topic of conversation was about taxing immigrants on money they send to families abroad.

I know that’s hard for you to understand when you wake up in a rage everyday.
 

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Ironically whites make up less than 15% of the entire human population, that number is shrinking - making them a minority. There are 195 countries in the world and less than 50 are majority white, that number is shrinking - minority. Yet white people are the oppressors and need diversity despite being outnumbered anywhere from 5:1 to 8:1. That’s the argument they are making. That shows the effectiveness of propaganda. 8 billion people. 1 billion whites.

So, just for the record ... apartheid didn't happen (or was OK? I don't know quite what you're trying to say here because you're not very good at using your words) because the blacks outnumbered the whites? That's your (victim) story and you're sticking to it?
 
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Still rent free I see.

Clearly the topic of conversation was about taxing immigrants on money they send to families abroad.

I know that’s hard for you to understand when you wake up in a rage everyday.
I didn’t know we had different tax laws for whites. Is that how they determine the tax code? Shhh. Don’t tell the Russians or Ukrainians. By your logic all whites are native and all immigrants are poc. I wasn’t aware. Thanks for sharing.
 

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I didn’t know we had different tax laws for whites. Is that how they determine the tax code? Shhh. Don’t tell the Russians or Ukrainians. By your logic all whites are native and all immigrants are poc. I wasn’t aware. Thanks for sharing.
And the spiral continues. No coherent thought. Just anger and unhappiness.

Apologies for you not being able to use reading comprehension from days ago. Now run along to twitter and fuel up that tank of anger.
 

PawPride

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Getting lectured about a definition by people that say a human with a penis is a woman is crazy, not a red herring, just calling out the insanity. You should too.
It's quite literally the definition of a red herring. You're changing the topic and shifting the discussion because you don't want to address the truth that tigress pointed out.
This is laughable. You see no correlation because you choose not to. Blue states are losing tax paying American citizens at an alarming rate. Specifically CA and NY. Those people moving impacts those states seats at the table in congress and the senate. A blue president and administration and governors of blue states claimed they were “sanctuary cities and states” (many against the very wishes of its own citizens) and all these “asylum seekers” ended up in those very states that were hemorrhaging real Americans, and were 100% counted in the census. And you’re claiming you’re not smart enough to see what’s going on? Wow. You are so naive to think this is altruism. It’s actually quite sad you’ve been manipulated by them so effectively. They’ve convinced you they’re altruistic, white knights when in reality this is about power and division. It’s tragic.
Please just provide any study or evidence supporting your claims that the Biden administration was shipping illegal immigrants to blue states to impact the census. I literally provided evidence supporting my claims, and am waiting to have my mind changed. It's not a difficult task to do if it's so blatant.
 
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So because of poor policies by government officials decades ago AND because the immigrants WANT to. That’s the reasoning you came up with to validate your argument lol. Brilliant point. I want a mansion and should get it because the government wasted my money 40 years ago. Seems pretty spot on with most liberal logic.
What nonsense are you rambling about here? I'm explaining the reasoning behind why those 3 countries are seeing higher immigration numbers.
Sooo the US goes and destroys all these countries and ruins them, then those citizens of the destroyed countries are so upset with America they illegally sneak into America to live under this oppressive regime of nazi racists (under threat of arrest or deportation). Got it. Thanks for clarifying. I know that’s perfectly logical lol.
Once again, what nonsense are you rambling about? What immigrants that are moving here because they are upset with America? They're moving to America because they view it as a better option to advance themselves than in their own home countries.

This really isn't that hard..
 

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And the spiral continues. No coherent thought. Just anger and unhappiness.

Apologies for you not being able to use reading comprehension from days ago. Now run along to twitter and fuel up that tank of anger.
It's really sad - it's pretty clear he just sits in a rage all day reading **** to rile him up, then he comes on here and starts spouting nonsense.
 

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Steps to stop it.

Stop illegal immigration.
Deport illegals already here.
Improve the economy.
Make housing affordable.
Continue to increase spending power.
Encourage families in the taxcode.
Make America great again.

Problem will fix itself if most of this is put in place imo.
Prima Nocta- Most liberal men are cvcks
 
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Ironically whites make up less than 15% of the entire human population, that number is shrinking - making them a minority. There are 195 countries in the world and less than 50 are majority white, that number is shrinking - minority. Yet white people are the oppressors and need diversity despite being outnumbered anywhere from 5:1 to 8:1. That’s the argument they are making. That shows the effectiveness of propaganda. 8 billion people. 1 billion whites.
I know this isn’t directed at me but isn’t the entire point of the experiment to be a color blind society. Or at the least make race insignificant in these matters? How will that happen if someone like her, considered a leader, says some of the things she’s saying. To me she’s always putting race at the center of everything. It’s not cool. Jmo.
 

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And the spiral continues. No coherent thought. Just anger and unhappiness.

Apologies for you not being able to use reading comprehension from days ago. Now run along to twitter and fuel up that tank of anger.
You literally said the issue is non-whites should be able to buy what they want. Did anyone say otherwise Mr Comprehension?
 

MTTiger19

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What nonsense are you rambling about here? I'm explaining the reasoning behind why those 3 countries are seeing higher immigration numbers.

Once again, what nonsense are you rambling about? What immigrants that are moving here because they are upset with America? They're moving to America because they view it as a better option to advance themselves than in their own home countries.

This really isn't that hard..
You literally just posted that “those white countries have been destabilizing these other countries”. Your post. So we destabilized them then they all wanted to come here. That’s the claim you made. Don’t get upset with me bc you have nonsensical opinions.
 
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It's quite literally the definition of a red herring. You're changing the topic and shifting the discussion because you don't want to address the truth that tigress pointed out.

Please just provide any study or evidence supporting your claims that the Biden administration was shipping illegal immigrants to blue states to impact the census. I literally provided evidence supporting my claims, and am waiting to have my mind changed. It's not a difficult task to do if it's so blatant.
Hold on. You want a study from the Biden administration admitting that they changed immigration policies so more people could come here and move to sanctuary cities? What were their actions not enough, you need a published study from Biden??? You need that to change your mind lol. Stop it. The left and him are brain dead but not that brain dead. Tell you what. I’ll provide that study when you provide the Epstein Trump study. Deal?
 
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Hold on. You want a study from the Biden administration admitting that they changed immigration policies so more people could come here and move to sanctuary cities? What were their actions not enough, you need a published study from Biden??? You need that to change your mind lol. Stop it. The left and him are brain dead but not that brain dead. Tell you what. I’ll provide that study when you provide the Epstein Trump study. Deal?
I've already posted a study from a conservative think tank that disproves your theory in this thread, though you didn't see it because you have me blocked. Someone else needs to share this with him.

Apportionment & Immigration: 95 Percent of Noncitizen Growth Went to GOP States Since 2019​

 
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PawPride

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You literally just posted that “those white countries have been destabilizing these other countries”. Your post. So we destabilized them then they all wanted to come here. That’s the claim you made. Don’t get upset with me bc you have nonsensical opinions.
Yes, western countries destabilizing second/third world countries is nothing new. I don't see what you're arguing with about that comment - it's a verifiable fact. What is nonsensical? You don't make any sense in your postings when you're just ragespamming, so I'm trying to figure out what you're arguing.
Hold on. You want a study from the Biden administration admitting that they changed immigration policies so more people could come here and move to sanctuary cities? What were their actions not enough, you need a published study from Biden??? You need that to change your mind lol. Stop it. The left and him are brain dead but not that brain dead. Tell you what. I’ll provide that study when you provide the Epstein Trump study. Deal?
I want a study from ANY reputable source verifying your claims. If you can't find anything credible from a third party supporting your argument, then that should tell you all you really need about your claims.
 
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PawPride

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Hold on. You want a study from the Biden administration admitting that they changed immigration policies so more people could come here and move to sanctuary cities? What were their actions not enough, you need a published study from Biden??? You need that to change your mind lol. Stop it. The left and him are brain dead but not that brain dead. Tell you what. I’ll provide that study when you provide the Epstein Trump study. Deal?
posting this from DPIC because he said you have him blocked:

I've already posted a study from a conservative think tank that disproves your theory in this thread, though you didn't see it because you have me blocked. Someone else needs to share this with him.

Apportionment & Immigration: 95 Percent of Noncitizen Growth Went to GOP States Since 2019​

https://www.cato.org/blog/apportionment-immigration-95-noncitizen-growth-went-gop-states-2019
 
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posting this from DPIC because he said you have him blocked:

I've already posted a study from a conservative think tank that disproves your theory in this thread, though you didn't see it because you have me blocked. Someone else needs to share this with him.

Apportionment & Immigration: 95 Percent of Noncitizen Growth Went to GOP States Since 2019​

https://www.cato.org/blog/apportionment-immigration-95-noncitizen-growth-went-gop-states-2019
You guys understand the difference between a non-citizen and an illegal right? That’s two different groups of people. Non-citizens are legal permanent residents (green card holders), temporary visa holders (e.g., students, workers), refugees/asylees, and unauthorized/undocumented immigrants. It does not refer exclusively to undocumented immigrants—the report does not break out undocumented growth separately for this period. We all know we have seasonal workers, H1B’s, students, etc…

What’s that say about blue state policies though lol. They’re leaving a place that welcomes them to go live with Nazis in red states apparently 😂 I guess those states aren’t so bad are they lol.

6 states have 60% of illegals - CA TX FL NY NJ IL. Two of them are red and both have geographic reasons why they’d have more immigrants. Share that with dpic.
 
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posting this from DPIC because he said you have him blocked:

I've already posted a study from a conservative think tank that disproves your theory in this thread, though you didn't see it because you have me blocked. Someone else needs to share this with him.

Apportionment & Immigration: 95 Percent of Noncitizen Growth Went to GOP States Since 2019​

https://www.cato.org/blog/apportionment-immigration-95-noncitizen-growth-went-gop-states-2019
Here’s the actual data. CA +3 (was losing two but gained one) FL +1, TX +1. Others were NY and IL at +1.

California: Effectively gained 1 seat. Without unauthorized immigrants, it would have lost 2 seats instead of the actual 1. California has the largest unauthorized population (~2.1-2.7 million in 2020 estimates), so it benefits the most.


• Texas: Effectively gained 1-2 seats. Projections show it would have gained only 1-2 instead of the actual 2 without them; CIS attributes 1 directly to unauthorized immigrants.


• Florida: Effectively gained 1 seat. It would have gained 0 instead of the actual 1 without unauthorized immigrants.
 

dpic73

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You guys understand the difference between a non-citizen and an illegal right? That’s two different groups of people. Non-citizens are legal permanent residents (green card holders), temporary visa holders (e.g., students, workers), refugees/asylees, and unauthorized/undocumented immigrants. It does not refer exclusively to undocumented immigrants—the report does not break out undocumented growth separately for this period. We all know we have seasonal workers, H1B’s, students, etc…

What’s that say about blue state policies though lol. They’re leaving a place that welcomes them to go live with Nazis in red states apparently 😂 I guess those states aren’t so bad are they lol.

6 states have 60% of illegals - CA TX FL NY NJ IL. Two of them are red and both have geographic reasons why they’d have more immigrants. Share that with dpic.
Based on the Cato Institute analysis of 2019–2023 data, 95% of the increase in the noncitizen population occurred in states with Republican governors. While the analysis focused on the total noncitizen population (both legal and illegal), it highlighted that this growth was largely driven by a rise in unauthorized border crossings and other non-permanent arrivals.
  • 95% of Increase in GOP States: Between March 2019 and March 2023, the noncitizen population in states with GOP governors grew by over 1.2 million, accounting for 95% of the total nationwide increase of noncitizens.
  • Driving Factors: The report suggests this surge was driven primarily by an increase in unauthorized immigration and legal nonimmigrant arrivals, rather than a rise in lawful permanent residents (green card holders).
  • Context on Illegal Population: Separate research indicates that the total unauthorized population has reached record highs (11–14 million nationally), with significant numbers settling in Republican-led border states.
The specific breakdown of the 1.2 million increase in GOP states that were specifically illegal (as opposed to temporary legal nonimmigrants) is not explicitly broken down into a single, definitive number in the provided Cato analysis, but the report emphasizes that unauthorized inflows were the primary driver of this trend.
Cato Findings
 
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PawPride

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You guys understand the difference between a non-citizen and an illegal right? That’s two different groups of people. Non-citizens are legal permanent residents (green card holders), temporary visa holders (e.g., students, workers), refugees/asylees, and unauthorized/undocumented immigrants. It does not refer exclusively to undocumented immigrants—the report does not break out undocumented growth separately for this period. We all know we have seasonal workers, H1B’s, students, etc…

What’s that say about blue state policies though lol. They’re leaving a place that welcomes them to go live with Nazis in red states apparently 😂 I guess those states aren’t so bad are they lol.

6 states have 60% of illegals - CA TX FL NY NJ IL. Two of them are red and both have geographic reasons why they’d have more immigrants. Share that with dpic.
Did you even read the article?


The argument that recent immigration is boosting Democratic representation in Congress is unsubstantiated. In 2015, I rebutted this same claim about recent illegal immigration. I noted, “Illegal immigration from 2000 to 2010 netted the Republicans about six seats in redistricting. Democrats managed only about 4.5, giving the Republican states yet again more than a seat advantage.” Clearly, immigration has not helped Democrats in terms of apportionment for decades. Yet, this misconception has become so entrenched that the former president tried to unconstitutionally exclude some noncitizens from the Census count.

I have also explained how it is false that Republicans fare poorly during periods when the immigrant share of the population is high. Republicans have controlled at least one chamber of Congress 85 percent of the years when the immigrant share of the population exceeded 10 percent, while not controlling either chamber 83 percent of all other years. This is a staggering disparity that has been completely overlooked in current political discourse. Republicans should not fear immigration based on unfounded political concerns.

Also, once again you’re refusing to provide any articles or studies supporting anything you’re arguing. Is it really that hard to find data to support your claims, or are your feelings/vibes all you need to form opinions?
 

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Bro I work for a huge company. Huge. They have groups for blacks only, latinx only, gay only, women only, Indian only. It’s wild. We have three flags at the corporate HQ flying at all times - American, state flag, and a pride flag - I am not joking. It’s so wild to hear constantly about inclusion and equity and be simultaneously blocked out and scapegoated for everything lol.
Mind sharing examples of being blocked out and scapegoated with your company? We don't fly the flag, but do have all the ERG's like your company.
 
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Here’s the actual data. CA +3 (was losing two but gained one) FL +1, TX +1. Others were NY and IL at +1.

California: Effectively gained 1 seat. Without unauthorized immigrants, it would have lost 2 seats instead of the actual 1. California has the largest unauthorized population (~2.1-2.7 million in 2020 estimates), so it benefits the most.


• Texas: Effectively gained 1-2 seats. Projections show it would have gained only 1-2 instead of the actual 2 without them; CIS attributes 1 directly to unauthorized immigrants.


• Florida: Effectively gained 1 seat. It would have gained 0 instead of the actual 1 without unauthorized immigrants.
Where was this info pulled from? Where’s the link to support the claims? I’m happy to be proven wrong but I’ve yet to see any hard evidence supporting your claims.
 
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dpic73

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Here’s the actual data. CA +3 (was losing two but gained one) FL +1, TX +1. Others were NY and IL at +1.

California: Effectively gained 1 seat. Without unauthorized immigrants, it would have lost 2 seats instead of the actual 1. California has the largest unauthorized population (~2.1-2.7 million in 2020 estimates), so it benefits the most.


• Texas: Effectively gained 1-2 seats. Projections show it would have gained only 1-2 instead of the actual 2 without them; CIS attributes 1 directly to unauthorized immigrants.


• Florida: Effectively gained 1 seat. It would have gained 0 instead of the actual 1 without unauthorized immigrants.
This says nothing about when they arrived nor does it say Biden directed them to these states. Look, we all agree that he did a bad job with the border but that doesn't mean you can assign a bunch of nefarious plots to him based on what you want to believe. If you're going to make the claim, you need to prove it.
 
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Probably can’t stop it but at the very least it’s ok to acknowledge it. That’s what pisses me off. It’s ok for every other group of people on the planet to have positive feelings towards their group but white people. So weird. Like liberals literally want and expect white people to seemingly hate themselves. Sorry bros, I love my culture. I want to preserve it for my children. My white ancestors built the greatest country on planet earth and I’m not ashamed of them. I’m proud of my heritage and race.

Bro I work for a huge company. Huge. They have groups for blacks only, latinx only, gay only, women only, Indian only. It’s wild. We have three flags at the corporate HQ flying at all times - American, state flag, and a pride flag - I am not joking. It’s so wild to hear constantly about inclusion and equity and be simultaneously blocked out and scapegoated for everything lol.

Correct and the very acknowledgment of that fact is deemed racist. You’re not even allowed to notice it’s happening, certainly aren’t allowed to discuss it. I go into business that have signs that say women owned or Native American owned or black and proud all the damn time. Imagine the hysterics and outrage and airing of grievances if a little tire shop in Dillon SC put a sign on their shack that says white owned and proud. Such double standards, contradictions and inconsistencies. Yet we’re supposed to be equal right?
I'm genuinely confused by this line of thinking- why does propping up other races/ethnicities cause any threat to you? White people hold every position of power in this country and have for the past 2 and a half centuries. White culture is the predominant culture in America, and making space for other ethnicities (who also have been here for 2 and a half centuries) isn't a threat, or shouldn't be. It's just who we have always been as a nation.

Sharing power with other citizens of different race and ethnicities is LITERALLY what it means to be American. It's not replacing anyone, its just making more space. White people aren't oppressed in any systemic way, and we don't have a "White history month" because everything in America is already built on White culture, history, and power structures.

Is it really SO scary to make space for others that are citizens that aren't White? I legitimately don't understand.