The final five flag designs are in.....

mstateglfr

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Whether you agree with it or not one only has to read the founding documents, the writings of our founding fathers, as well as many other things to know that the US was not intended to be atheistic. It was very much intended to recognize the presence and preeminence of God. It was not intended to endorse a specific church like Great Brittan.


The founding documents and writings of our founding fathers also dont recognize black people as citizens(or even as half of a person) and dont allow women(half our country) to vote.
They wrote some great stuff back in the day. Truly incredible and given the time period it was for lack of a better word- revolutionary.
But they also missed big time on some things and its OK for us to not follow everything they wrote/did/believed.

I am not suggesting IGWT is illegal or anything like that. It can stay on our money if people need it to be there, thats fine. I just dont think your reasoning is solid logic due to what it is based on.
 

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The founding documents and writings of our founding fathers also dont recognize black people as citizens(or even as half of a person) and dont allow women(half our country) to vote.
They wrote some great stuff back in the day. Truly incredible and given the time period it was for lack of a better word- revolutionary.
But they also missed big time on some things and its OK for us to not follow everything they wrote/did/believed.

I am not suggesting IGWT is illegal or anything like that. It can stay on our money if people need it to be there, thats fine. I just dont think your reasoning is solid logic due to what it is based on.

The Constitution recognized slaves as 3/5 of a person, which is MORE than half. Stop twisting all the facts around just to fit your agenda!!!***
 

QuaoarsKing

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What if we put boobs on it?

Ireland did long ago. (Sorry if a rules violation)

 

Cooterpoot

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Shield looks like something on a kid's fort. River design looks like Biden sniffing LA.
Tree looks like menorah.
 
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That pitiful looking Magnolia tree is doing its best to look like Charlie Brown's Christmas Tree.
A tree with barely any leaves or flowers is not a symbol Mississippi should want.

The flags with uneven stars on the left and right of the middle star are terrible because lack of symmetry on a flag is insaninty.

So USMNT it is, I guess.
Happy to agree with you on something. To me, that magnolia tree looks like one that barely made it through a nuclear explosion.
 

yjnkdawg

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Flags waving, credit to reddit

Shield

River outline

Blue center with red sides

Tree

White center with red & blue sides


Looking at them on paper I'd choose #3. But watching them fly - I really like #5. And the tree doesn't look bad either. Not a fan at all of #2.


Thanks and I agree on #5 too. After that #3, #4 and then none. On #1, my take on that is if you want a shield have something that looks like a shield, but if you want a flag then have something that looks like a flag. The push for this flag and the marketing seems more like a political election than choosing a flag, and usually politics wins out. On #2, it seems to be more of an obese (over weight) Mississippi, and I don't think we need to have an outline of our state on our flag. On #4, it looks better to me when it's flying.
 
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RocketDawg

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I like Nos 4 & 5 best, although I'm not sure what the vegetative matter is in the 5th one. It just looks good overall.

Surprised at #1. It just doesn't look good at all and to me, doesn't represent the state. Actually not sure what it represents.

How is the process handled? Do you get to vote on which one of the 5 you like best, or is there a further culling process by the committee?
 

RocketDawg

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It's on all of the coins and currency in the US.

Plus, all religions have a god of some type, so it can be taken to mean whichever the user (in the case of currency) or the observer (in the case of the flag) wants. I realize that's not the intent, but it's still a viable reason. Plus, Jews believe in the same God that Christians do, and those two religions account for the vast, vast majority of the country.
 

RocketDawg

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Which one is "top left"? On a laptop, it's a set of pictures that you scroll through, so there's no placement other than 1 through 5.
 

RocketDawg

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I haven't been a resident of MS in 15 years, so my opinion doesn't matter, but I like the simplicity/minimalism of the top left as well. Other than it being red and blue, and looking like the USMNT shield, why do those of you that hate it do so? Simply curious.

I've not lived in the state for a lot longer than 15 years so no vote either, but it's not a matter of "hate", it's a matter of not being obvious what the shield stands for. The magnolia is obvious - Mississippi is known for magnolia trees, probably more than any other state. The 5th one doesn't look much like a magnolia though.
 

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So what was the official story on why the Stennis/Hospitality Flag was included in the process. I saw something that basically alluded that the family didn't want the possible blowback from some of the senator's positions on segregation.

Was that it or something else?

I liked the idea of the Green color scheme and hate one wasn't included. I agree that Gondor looks the best when you see it fly although I don't really love the design itself. #2 is just awful in about every way

It shouldn't be that. When Stennis was senator, especially in his early years, just about every white person in the state was a segregationist. They grew up that way and never knew anything different - it was just natural to them. I know because that's how I grew up. Times and attitudes change, so that shouldn't be an issue. Even George Wallace finally changed his views on the subject.
 

RocketDawg

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Ha. OK, the shield. I get no vote, but I like the magnolias. I just don't want one in my yard because they're so messy (but I have two). I liked the green colors too, even though I'm not sure what they represented, but all the greens were canned.
 

RocketDawg

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Maybe because the US's colors are red, white, and blue? I doubt OM had anything to do with the color choice.

Isn't OM's red really crimson, copied after Harvard? The nation's red is scarlet I believe.
 

RocketDawg

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Compared to Alabama's basic yellow and green tags, Mississippi's car tags look fantastic. As a matter of fact, I like them compared to just about any other state. It might be because I don't see many of them, and certainly not on a daily basis.
 

RocketDawg

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That's nuts. I'll bet you could ask anybody in any state what tree is Mississippi known for, and the answers would be either magnolia or pine. Pine's already taken.
 

mstateglfr

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The Constitution recognized slaves as 3/5 of a person, which is MORE than half. Stop twisting all the facts around just to fit your agenda!!!***

Haha, touche. Math man, I dread 3 weeks from now when school starts back up and I struggle to help my 8th grader.
 

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The founding documents and writings of our founding fathers also dont recognize black people as citizens(or even as half of a person) and dont allow women(half our country) to vote.
They wrote some great stuff back in the day. Truly incredible and given the time period it was for lack of a better word- revolutionary.
But they also missed big time on some things and its OK for us to not follow everything they wrote/did/believed.

I am not suggesting IGWT is illegal or anything like that. It can stay on our money if people need it to be there, thats fine. I just dont think your reasoning is solid logic due to what it is based on.
Not recognizing black people as citizens & not allowing women to vote was ultimately proved wrong as mores changed over the years. God & belief in God are not mores. Nothing at all has changed about God, or belief in God in that time. You're suggesting a false equivalence.

Sure, it's true we've needed amendments to correct or improve upon previous versions of our Constitution, but to argue that our nation's founding was potentially wrongly considered one "under God" in the way it was wrong for the aforementioned bigotry is just the kind of sophomoric kind of tripe I would expect from someone who's liberalism is their "true religion".

Lucky for you, you live in a country that allows you to be this way.
 

ronpolk

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I heard on the radio yesterday that the committee received some feedback over the weekend that there was a potential issue with the magnolia bloom. It seems a magnolia bloom is seen by some as having connotations of the old south.

So I guess I am surprised that we are moving forward with a bunch of them having a magnolia bloom on them.

The word Mississippi brings up connotations to the “old south”. If we can’t put a flower on the flag, then we should just choose to not have a flag. At that point, it would be clear that anything could be offensive.
 

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Go the Washington Redskins route. Plain white flag with the words State Flag on it in black letters. No fancy font either, like simple Arial font.
 

CochiseCowbell

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Go the Washington Redskins route. Plain white flag with the words State Flag on it in black letters. No fancy font either, like simple Arial font.

Fun Fact: This was the Kingdom of France's Flag from 1814-1830



There is a picture there. The flag was a field of white. No French Surrender joke.
 

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Go the Washington Redskins route. Plain white flag with the words State Flag on it in black letters. No fancy font either, like simple Arial font.

If we go that route, I'd say somebody just paint "state flag" on there with a 2" brush.
 

mstateglfr

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Not recognizing black people as citizens & not allowing women to vote was ultimately proved wrong as mores changed over the years. God & belief in God are not mores. Nothing at all has changed about God, or belief in God in that time. You're suggesting a false equivalence.

Sure, it's true we've needed amendments to correct or improve upon previous versions of our Constitution, but to argue that our nation's founding was potentially wrongly considered one "under God" in the way it was wrong for the aforementioned bigotry is just the kind of sophomoric kind of tripe I would expect from someone who's liberalism is their "true religion".

Lucky for you, you live in a country that allows you to be this way.


My only point was that just because the founding fathers wrote about it doesnt mean its infallible. They got **** wrong, big time in some instances. Therefore, using 'the founding fathers wrote about it' as a defense is weak.