The final five flag designs are in.....
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This is a great way to judge. #3 and #4 look the best to me as they fly. The last one has too much color contrast for me when the wind blows it. I think that's why I like the two simple color schemes, that don't change much as they get blown around.
#2 (aka Bart's jawline) is still the worst no matter the angle.
#2 (aka Bart's jawline) is still the worst no matter the angle.
Don't hate the design....
There is just nothing there that is recognizable as any symbol associated with MS. I know the shield has some kind of connection but very few people know that and the wavy line doesn't whisper Mississippi to me. At least the magnolia is a recognizable state symbol.
There is just nothing there that is recognizable as any symbol associated with MS. I know the shield has some kind of connection but very few people know that and the wavy line doesn't whisper Mississippi to me. At least the magnolia is a recognizable state symbol.
Yep, that is basically the flag of the Kings of Gondor. There very well may be copyright issues it's so close.
Unfortunately the Gondor flag doesn't come with Aragorn or Faramir as a package deal. Though some might accuse Tate of having some Denethor-ish qualities.
That depends on which version of Denethor you mean. The movie and book have different interpretations.
It wasn't but we have a chance now to improve things dramatically.
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Indeed
It has been around since the Second Age and the drowning of Numenor. Long has Nimloth, the white tree from Numenor, waved over the strongholds of the Men of the West.
It has been around since the Second Age and the drowning of Numenor. Long has Nimloth, the white tree from Numenor, waved over the strongholds of the Men of the West.
I must confess to not having read the books, so movie Denethor is who I was referring to.
That pitiful looking Magnolia tree is doing its best to look like Charlie Brown's Christmas Tree.
A tree with barely any leaves or flowers is not a symbol Mississippi should want.
The flags with uneven stars on the left and right of the middle star are terrible because lack of symmetry on a flag is insaninty.
So USMNT it is, I guess.
A tree with barely any leaves or flowers is not a symbol Mississippi should want.
The flags with uneven stars on the left and right of the middle star are terrible because lack of symmetry on a flag is insaninty.
So USMNT it is, I guess.
A star for each state in the union when MS joined. The gold one is #20 Mississippi. That makes much more sense than the single star over the shield of which its significance or what it represents is impossible to discern.
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Shield flag is a dog. Can't believe it made final 5. Boring as can be and very little connection to the state.
Tree flag is the ugliest of all, looking like a ****** clip-art image anybody can pull up from Google. Again, surprised this made it, but given how crappy our state government has often been, perhaps I shouldn't be surprised.
The last one, with the huge white middle section and blue stars is ugly. Too much white, and stars aren't blue.
I could live with the one that has just the middle section of our state, but excluding parts is not ideal, IMO.
That leaves the Magnolia flower flag with the blue center, red bordering stripes & thin gold stripes. Not a fan of the gold stripes. Just feels a little gaudy or excessive to me, or like the designer was trying too hard to come up with something to make it different than the hundreds of other very similar designs. Another I wouldn't be completely disappointed with.
Although I was initially reluctant of designs that incorporated some green, the ones cut from the previous round that were primarily green and white (not including the clipart tree) were growing on me. I liked the idea of departing from the national red, white & blue because we fly that already. Would have been nice to have a state flag that stood out in a lineup of the national + other state flags. Sorry to see them out.
Tree flag is the ugliest of all, looking like a ****** clip-art image anybody can pull up from Google. Again, surprised this made it, but given how crappy our state government has often been, perhaps I shouldn't be surprised.
The last one, with the huge white middle section and blue stars is ugly. Too much white, and stars aren't blue.
I could live with the one that has just the middle section of our state, but excluding parts is not ideal, IMO.
That leaves the Magnolia flower flag with the blue center, red bordering stripes & thin gold stripes. Not a fan of the gold stripes. Just feels a little gaudy or excessive to me, or like the designer was trying too hard to come up with something to make it different than the hundreds of other very similar designs. Another I wouldn't be completely disappointed with.
Although I was initially reluctant of designs that incorporated some green, the ones cut from the previous round that were primarily green and white (not including the clipart tree) were growing on me. I liked the idea of departing from the national red, white & blue because we fly that already. Would have been nice to have a state flag that stood out in a lineup of the national + other state flags. Sorry to see them out.
Agreed. I wish "In God we Trust" wasn't on any of them. We all know that will be a point of contention the exact day this flag is adopted. In my opinion, we are not a country of Christians but of many people. I am a Christian, but I do believe this country is not supposed to be what this flag is saying. Same for the Pledge, same for our currency, same for this flag. Our official position as a society is that we have no official position except that we hold all faiths as your right to practice the beliefs of said faith when it does not impact someone else's ability to practice theirs. By our state or this country including "In God We Trust" on official items such as flags, currency, and the such we are declaring that to be part of this country, that is a belief requirement. And it is not.
It is time for Mississippi to move past these arbitrary bullcrap moves like this. I am a Christian, but I am also an American patriot. We know better. There is a time and place for each. This flag is not one of them..
Edited to add, if "In God We Trust" had to be added to get dumbasses to agree to burn the old one, then I am all for it. Forget everything I said above. The trade was worth it.
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We are a nation with proclaimed belief in God, and I like that. Our freedom means no citizen is required to adopt religion or any religion. They are free to live in a county "under God" while not believing in "our God".
This is the biggest difference between those who want God back in our institutions & those who believe any mention of God in connection with the government is a defacto requirement to accept a specific religion or any at all. Those of us who want God back believe the SCOTUS got it wrong.
So what was the official story on why the Stennis/Hospitality Flag was included in the process. I saw something that basically alluded that the family didn't want the possible blowback from some of the senator's positions on segregation.
Was that it or something else?
I liked the idea of the Green color scheme and hate one wasn't included. I agree that Gondor looks the best when you see it fly although I don't really love the design itself. #2 is just awful in about every way
Was that it or something else?
I liked the idea of the Green color scheme and hate one wasn't included. I agree that Gondor looks the best when you see it fly although I don't really love the design itself. #2 is just awful in about every way
Top left: Looks like the NFL shield
Top Right: Why do I want a MS flag with some AR and LA on it?
Bottom left: More drab than a Steven Seagal movie
Bottom middle: The only viable choice
Bottom right: All I see is a white square with a flower on it
Top Right: Why do I want a MS flag with some AR and LA on it?
Bottom left: More drab than a Steven Seagal movie
Bottom middle: The only viable choice
Bottom right: All I see is a white square with a flower on it
Disagree with bottom right, but agree with bottom left. Since when are stars blue? And the white middle section is overwhelming the rest...too plain, and a white magnolia, even outlined looks washed out against a white background. Besides, don't you just know if we adopted that flag there would be an immediate outcry from BLM supporters that the emphasis on white will be an intentional homage to white supremacy, or at least a "dog-whistle" for it? Of course, it wouldn't actually be, but that won't stop some from claiming it and starting another crusade.
They are going to have 5 flags made and see them in real life. Supposedly the 3 with the unsymmetrical stars are going to have 21 stars instead. The 20 normal stars will represent being the 20th state, and the gold star will represent the original native american tribes...
One guy redrew those with a circle of stars like the tree flag - 20 evenly spaced stars with golden star on top, and IGWT just under the magnolia rather than being part of the circle. Looks much better. I don't know why it seems to be so difficult for the committee to figure that out.
One guy redrew those with a circle of stars like the tree flag - 20 evenly spaced stars with golden star on top, and IGWT just under the magnolia rather than being part of the circle. Looks much better. I don't know why it seems to be so difficult for the committee to figure that out.
This thread shows why the committee and public vote was a terrible idea. People just aren't going to agree on what's aesthetically pleasing and what's not.
If that's what people vote on, no flag will ever pass.
If that's what people vote on, no flag will ever pass.
Interested in this, as well. The Stennis Flag looks 100x better than any of these five, and it is already flown by a ton of people across the state and has its own car tag.
The concept of the tree flag is good; but the tree does not look anything like a magnolia, so what is the point? Any of them are better than the Bart Simpson flag.
I heard on the radio yesterday that the committee received some feedback over the weekend that there was a potential issue with the magnolia bloom. It seems a magnolia bloom is seen by some as having connotations of the old south.
So I guess I am surprised that we are moving forward with a bunch of them having a magnolia bloom on them.
So I guess I am surprised that we are moving forward with a bunch of them having a magnolia bloom on them.
Whether you agree with it or not one only has to read the founding documents, the writings of our founding fathers, as well as many other things to know that the US was not intended to be atheistic. It was very much intended to recognize the presence and preeminence of God. It was not intended to endorse a specific church like Great Brittan.
Your last sentence is pretty much the answer. Plus, if the motto was not included on every flag, then any flag that did say "In God We Trust" would get the full backing of the churches and would win in a landslide.
I am basing this on a public vote in Georgia several years ago for a new license plate design. The Tax Commissioners office put county designations on some of the designs, and "In God We Trust" on other designs, and all of the top voted candidates had the motto on them. They re-worked the whole vote to make it clear that any design could have "In God We Trust" on it instead of a county designation. Its just up to the car owner.
I am basing this on a public vote in Georgia several years ago for a new license plate design. The Tax Commissioners office put county designations on some of the designs, and "In God We Trust" on other designs, and all of the top voted candidates had the motto on them. They re-worked the whole vote to make it clear that any design could have "In God We Trust" on it instead of a county designation. Its just up to the car owner.
Does anyone actually like #2? That is horrible.
I guess I would go with 4. I liked the green flags though.
I guess I would go with 4. I liked the green flags though.
Top right is my least favorite. After seeing it on flagwaver (see Kired's post, above), even more so.
Great River has some aspects I like- but on the whole it's not distinctive at all. It's a seal on a bedsheet.
I really want to like the magnolia with the red/blue stripes- but the asymmetry gets me. I can also see an argument that the vertical red stripe on the far right is reminiscent of the third confederate flag (not saying I wouldn't roll my eyes at such an argument- but you can see it coming).
The "gondor" flag is super weird, but it looks nice. It's also a blue that people wouldn't associate with Ole Miss.
All that said, the only one I would vote against is the one with the state outline. In addition to the execution of the state outline just not working for me, the flower is not as well done as the others.
Great River has some aspects I like- but on the whole it's not distinctive at all. It's a seal on a bedsheet.
I really want to like the magnolia with the red/blue stripes- but the asymmetry gets me. I can also see an argument that the vertical red stripe on the far right is reminiscent of the third confederate flag (not saying I wouldn't roll my eyes at such an argument- but you can see it coming).
The "gondor" flag is super weird, but it looks nice. It's also a blue that people wouldn't associate with Ole Miss.
All that said, the only one I would vote against is the one with the state outline. In addition to the execution of the state outline just not working for me, the flower is not as well done as the others.
Seriously, who is the flag committee and what are they drinking?
Can we just do the surrender flag?
Can we just do the surrender flag?