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Great post , MS is like every other media person taking their shots at Frost, they are all pussies and cowards in my book!
Are the people that are saying these things that are not in the media lying too? Why?
 

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frost's quiet quitting was a result of the ccp's wuhan lab bating eating.
where alot of aspects of the rat race were questioned
 

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Are the people that are saying these things that are not in the media lying too? Why?
No but it is more like things just get blown up.

Like how we would hear "Oh yeah, in the 90's, there were fights every single day in practice and the coaches would let them fight, because it was great for the team"

I am guessing there were some fights, I am also guessing it did not happen at every practice and more than likely coaches did break it up.
 

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Are the people that are saying these things that are not in the media lying too? Why?
Did I say anything about lying, my post is the media doesn’t do their job until after the fact., Hence the Cowards and pussie remarks.
 

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Some Husker fans want the coaches to get paid by the hour and actually have to punch in at an old time clock.
There should be a middle ground. I'm all for paying a good coach very well. But I'm not for all these higher-ups throwing millions-of-dollars at each other like it's confetti & party-time.
 

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FWIW, Sipple says he's never heard the reports of Frost being late to practice until now.

Callahan says the same thing.
 

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FWIW, Sipple says he's never heard the reports of Frost being late to practice until now.

Callahan says the same thing.


I hope so. Not putting in the work to win at the highest level is one thing (which is unacceptable). But strolling in late to your own practice, when you should have been there hours ago, is completely another.
 

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Billy C was a lot like Frost, with his loyalty to his assistants being his downfall. Towards the end we saw that the offense could work - Taylor, Ganz.

However, the defense was atrocious and "Throat Slash Billy" couldn't give 2 ***** about Nebraska.
^^^^^this. Callahan might have been successful if he cut Cosgrove. Offense wasn't the problem
 

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I hope so. Not putting in the work to win at the highest level is one thing (which is unacceptable). But strolling in late to your own practice, when you should have been there hours ago, is completely another.
I have no doubt this is coming from former players who attended practice
 
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As far as I'm concerned whether the rumors or allegations are true or not doesn't matter in the scheme of things. Frost's bad record of wins on the field was more than enough to can him at the end of last year. Period.

The only interest from me regarding the allegations is more from a case study point of learning. Something (whatever it was) caused the massive failure of Frost. I'd like to know what it was simply to understand future situations. Otherwise Frost is history and I don't care about him personally one way or the other at this point. He'll be remembered for his great plays as a QB and his horrible record as a head coach. That's all frozen in the books of Nebraska football history now.
 

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Really? If so he’s got the inside info from some former players who attended practice. Jay
Moore was pretty critical of Frost last summer on some radio interviews I heard.
Yeah I don't know if he always hosts it but he did the other day and you are right, Jay was critical.
 

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Because many of the boosters were frosties

Let's just drop the Frosties BS and move forward as a group. We get enough of this on the political side of things with out bringing the us v them mentality hear. Time to heel as a Husker nation and move on.
 

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Everyone is trustworthy on this board. I have read Scott frost is a drunk sexual pervert that is probably racist. And trev Alberts is a genius who will solely bring Nebraska football back. That’s just week. 1 month ago frost was riding down a rail outside memorial stadium and people thought he was having fun. Now they say he was drunk doing it and going to have an affair. Really tough to take anything on this board seriously and trust anyone.
Iowa talking about racist? LMAO
 
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Yeah I don't know if he always hosts it but he did the other day and you are right, Jay was critical.
Jay's been critical basically since Day 1. Not sure if Frost pissed in his Wheaties or what. That said, much of his criticisms were valid. I'm not really sure why he's on BRWU, though, as he's not well spoken at all.

Severe has been the host I believe since Kugler left a few years ago.
 
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Whatever Frost did or did not do and whatever rumors are true or false, there is one fact that screams out: four straight losing seasons and the makings of a fifth. That means something was terribly, terribly wrong. Something has to explain what caused the terribleness. Therefore, the rumors of late to practice and a lazy recruiter, and spending too much time partying and at the links, have a prima facie plausibility.
 
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Whatever Frost did or did not do and whatever rumors are true or false, there is one fact that screams out: four straight losing seasons and the makings of a fifth. That means something was terribly, terribly wrong. Something has to explain what caused the terribleness. Therefore, the rumors of late to practice and a lazy recruiter, and spending too much time partying and at the links, have a prima facie plausibility.
Yeah, there has to be a reason other than he never gained enough experience as a Head Coach to learn how to be a more complete Head Coach before we pulled the trigger. It would never be that we wanted him because of his early success at UCF, he's a native son & we have to have him before anyone else gets their hooks in him. It could never be that he's not organized or detailed enough because he's never had to learn that. It could never be that his ego got in the way many times. It has to be something else.

When it comes to rumors, we tend to believe those that fit our own personal narrative - both sides. I'd tend to believe we pulled the trigger too early and he just wasn't ready to lead NU back to prominence. More game experiences, more failures that he can learn from the better coach he will be. Mickey Joseph has much more experience than SF, imo. Mickey just hasn't been a coordinator. We'll find out if MJ is better organized, has better attention to detail & a better manager overall soon enough.
 

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He beat back to back top 10 teams in OSU and Mizzo...
They finished #12 and #14. In the same breathe of beating those 2 team (which were really good wins) he lost to a 5-7 Texas team and got very lucky vs a 5-7 Iowa St team.

We knew what Bo was. Nothing bad, but nothing great either. Just very average for a program like Nebraska. Would we want average back now? Absolutely, but if you're going to be average at a program like Nebraska you can't be a jerk, you can't basically dare your boss to fire you & you can't be a jerk about the fan base.
 

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I just hope that we all put his firing and the subsequent aftermath (Riley and Frost) into perspective the next time (hopefully that doesn't happen) we are in a similar situation. As someone here basically posted, I would much rather get blown out in the B1G championship game than be multiple wins away from playing in it. Or a bowl game.
Sure, but those aren't the only 2 options.

Pelini did not win enough for a program like Nebraska. And IF it is enough then we're more afraid of being bad than we wanting to achieve greatness.

Plus you can't be a jerk unless you're winning championships or finishing in the Top 10.
 

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Yep!

There is this weird mantra from some fans that 9-10 wins seasons suck because that means it was not an undefeated season.
No, we thought the seasons sucked because it was another year without a conference championship. Another year without a Top 10 finish. More blowout losses and losses to an inferior opponent.
 

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They finished #12 and #14. In the same breathe of beating those 2 team (which were really good wins) he lost to a 5-7 Texas team and got very lucky vs a 5-7 Iowa St team.

We knew what Bo was. Nothing bad, but nothing great either. Just very average for a program like Nebraska. Would we want average back now? Absolutely, but if you're going to be average at a program like Nebraska you can't be a jerk, you can't basically dare your boss to fire you & you can't be a jerk about the fan base.
His boss sucked though. Bo was right.
 

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No, we thought the seasons sucked because it was another year without a conference championship. Another year without a Top 10 finish. More blowout losses and losses to an inferior opponent.
But you can't win those things without getting the wins he got.
 

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But you can't win those things without getting the wins he got.
But you can plateau and never get any better. But setting that aside, Bo was fired for a lot more reasons than on simply his on the field performance.
 

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But you can plateau and never get any better. But setting that aside, Bo was fired for a lot more reasons than on simply his on the field performance.
He was fired because his boss was a huge *** and thought he knew what was best.
 

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Nobody should be judging his personal life...girls, booze, etc. That's none of anyone's business

What he should be judged on is wins & losses and he was finally held accountable for it. Should have been a couple yrs. ago but it is what it is.
So we won’t judge urban Meier on his personal life? It was okay to keep domestic violence under wraps because he won. Let’s hire him now
 

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Jay's been critical basically since Day 1. Not sure if Frost pissed in his Wheaties or what. That said, much of his criticisms were valid. I'm not really sure why he's on BRWU, though, as he's not well spoken at all.

Severe has been the host I believe since Kugler left a few years ago.
I thought he had quit brwu. I haven’t seen it a while obviously
 

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But you can plateau and never get any better. But setting that aside, Bo was fired for a lot more reasons than on simply his on the field performance.
Agreed - people spout off things like 9 win seasons without giving any further context - like what was the team's ranking in the polls at the end of the season (which is directly related to who you beat (and how impressively you beat them) and who you lost to (and how badly you lost to them))? Here were Bo's results - as you can see, the pollsters weren't too impressed with 9 win seasons against weak Big 10 competition - and Bo was trending downward:

Big 12:
2008 9-4 (unranked)
2009 10-4 (#14/#14)
2010 10-4 (#20/#19)

Big 10:
2011 9-4 (#24/#24)
2012 10-4 (#25/#23)
2013 9-4 (Unranked/#25)
2014 9-4 (Unranked)
 

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But you can't win those things without getting the wins he got.
That's not a good enough reason to keep him around for a program like Nebraska.

This would never happen, but let's say our next coach gets 3 full seasons and wins only 4 total games in that stretch. Should we have kept Frost?

Of course not. The same applies to Bo. Just because Riley & Frost were terrible doesn't mean we should have kept Bo.