Schiano talks are off
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NOT TRUE or why would I be told over and over by Hobbs to give for new fb facilities
I don’t know if this is on the BOG, Hobbs, or Barchi, but they are now on the bozo level of Fred Gruninger.
Not brutal- offered 8 years, 32 million, he’s a greedy egotistic has been.
This - Hobbs either bungled this big time - or he just maneuvered to get Schiano out of the running and trying to make it like Schiano was unreasonable. Either way Hobbs will have a very difficult time explaining this away.
I just posted almost the same thing in my thread. What an epic fail by Hobbs. He'll be getting some emails from me, as will Barchi. I'm sure it won't make a difference, but it'll make me feel slightly better.
There are more important things in life than a coaching search. Family means everything to me. Many are on the ledge after the announcement. I've lost my twin brother and my wife to cancer and I have been fighting cancer myself for 5 years. None of us ever smoked. This coaching search is not a life & death situation. We all should see what is really important.
Personally I think RU offered Schiano an awful lot. He has always wanted to control everything. He was offered a lot. He has a huge ego. There has to be someone else out there. I am not going to lose sleep over it. Schiano got everything he wanted when he was our coach and our other sports were neglected for years, Now $32 million for 8 years for him and $ 7.5 million for assistants isn't enough. It sounds to me like he really didn't want to return to RU. He just took his toys and went home. Will he ever coach again?
Personally I think RU offered Schiano an awful lot. He has always wanted to control everything. He was offered a lot. He has a huge ego. There has to be someone else out there. I am not going to lose sleep over it. Schiano got everything he wanted when he was our coach and our other sports were neglected for years, Now $32 million for 8 years for him and $ 7.5 million for assistants isn't enough. It sounds to me like he really didn't want to return to RU. He just took his toys and went home. Will he ever coach again?
Sure. I knew damn well something was up the longer this thing went. Any reasonable person would have agreed. But I was mercilessly ridiculed
Lol. I’m really ok with this. Too much drama, not enough results with this one to justify the huge ask. Remember he bailed on us and left us with a huge stadium debt that nobody wants to talk about. Never got us there. Chin up - this is a good opportunity for RU and a coach ready to take the next step.
Not on Schiano as he agreed to not have football only building (as Rutgers requested) but instead wanted bigger pool of money for assistants. Rutgers did not want to give.
Now here we are...
For those that think the next candidate will get the same deal as Schiano...
dream on cause I am gonna bet that a lot of the money would have been from big time donors that wanted Schiano. The next deal will probably be considerably less in all aspects.
Rutgers has gone on the cheap for so long that the program is so far from being competitive in B1G standards (remember that is the conference we are in, not the AAC) facility-wise, coaching-wise, and recruiting-wise that this was the time they needed to step up to meet those needs and they have failed.
Good luck to the next coach (Golden, Butch, or another person no one cares about or a present non-HC) that will have a smaller salary, smaller salary for assistants, and most likely most of the same facilities as present.
Rutgers and Hobbs showed small time commitment as Greg’s salary and years were not the issue.
It’s not. But unless we are willing to hire a real coach instead of a coordinator or someone named Campanille we might as well. Go back to the Big East for basketball and go subdivision for football.
We have 40 years plus of evidence from RU doing things in the cheap and making decision to avoid any political heat. So its pretty easy for me to say Rutgers was once again not willing to make the NEEDED commitment and Greg knows full well what is needed to win in the Big 10.
Note the last hire took the job without even seeing the campus
Note the last hire took the job without even seeing the campus
Rutgers is not as desirable as other people think. We will probably have A Camp.
Butch Jones or Golden... ugh
The only one that would get everyone back on board would be Urban Meyer
As a poster who sometimes takes jabs here personally, let me tell you to not take it personally. I don't think it was the content of your posts. It was the frequency of them. Congratulations on becoming a board sage and legend.
Exactly, he’s unemployed. He hasn’t had a P5 job since he left RU. He’s a primadonna with a sub .500 lifetime coaching record.
I wouldn’t quite use those monikers. To me, it was just logical to me where this might be going.
Hopefully now that Roy Hobbes has completely bungled this hire he is willing to take some advice. If it was me, I would have three KEY attributes in mind for our next corch:
1. We need someone who absolutely NAILS the interview.
2. The candidate should be recommended by at least one other Big Ten head corch.
3. The candidate should have an impeccable reference from at least one other Big Ten AD. Bonus points if the AD was also previously a head corch himself.
If our next coach has these three things down it would be practically guaranteed for him to succeed.
1. We need someone who absolutely NAILS the interview.
2. The candidate should be recommended by at least one other Big Ten head corch.
3. The candidate should have an impeccable reference from at least one other Big Ten AD. Bonus points if the AD was also previously a head corch himself.
If our next coach has these three things down it would be practically guaranteed for him to succeed.
Difficult to argue with this.
Did Greg think that he had RU held hostage?
Give me the Campanile family over Greg.
RU needs a long term play with local coaches imo.
Who really cares what happened behind the scenes here. The real question is has Rutgers changed their commitment to try to become a winning football program by dedicating the necessary resources. The answer has proven to be no. Is it embarrassing to be a Rutgers fan? Yes. But apparently the BOG doesn't really think that impacts applications, academics and prestige. Or they haven't really put thought into the supposed connection. That, imo, is the real overall narrative here.
That said, RU still has an opportunity here to show a relative commitment. And because the university has proved their incompetence time and time again, I just hope they are committed to spending money on coaches and facility upgrades, but just maybe not to the level Schiano wanted.
That said, RU still has an opportunity here to show a relative commitment. And because the university has proved their incompetence time and time again, I just hope they are committed to spending money on coaches and facility upgrades, but just maybe not to the level Schiano wanted.
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I hope A Camp does well but he really has a lot he would have to fight through, lower assistant salary pool, most likely the same or similar facilities, etc. Yea he will try to recruit NJ players but most will be wooed by other schools that have more football prestige, better facilities, and.... administration that DOES SHOW they are willing to commit to football.
Why would Greg put a huge amount of risk on himself (hey, his own salary would have been not too high on the B1G list of coaches... we do compete in the B1G), as it has been the Rutgers administration that has always been on the cheap... can’t say that Flood was Rutgers’ way of being B1G time, or that Flood should have been fired despite the win against USF, and that after Flood, we should have put up some real money for a proven head coach.
Everyone wants someone that could bring us back to respectability... well... Greg did that his first time around and knows what is holding back RU.
Can someone else do it.. hell yea, I’ll take Urban!
Besides that... good luck
I am in the Pro-Schaino camp, but if they really offered him 8 years at 32 million, time to move on.
I really hope we don't hire A. Camp as HC.
I would think for 32 million we could find an established guy.
I like Nunzio, but he is not ready to be O-Coordinator (but what do i know). He needs to study under an established spread guru
Running a program is not only X and O....it is a lot of work.
I really hope we don't hire A. Camp as HC.
I would think for 32 million we could find an established guy.
I like Nunzio, but he is not ready to be O-Coordinator (but what do i know). He needs to study under an established spread guru
Running a program is not only X and O....it is a lot of work.
Didn’t want to give Greg a football only facility. Greg said, fine, give me more money for assistants... crickets
Eventually we'll find out the GS just doesn't interview well enough.
^ Gotta like a guy who retains his sense of humor in all situations. :ThumbsUp
Nothing else has worked, maybe we should just try hiring a corch.
So Schiano is out and whatever coach is hired will get considerably less and 4 years from now will not have the "newer facilities" that other B1G teams have or are building. It's like an arms race. You have to compete with the other schools for recruits.
They were going to be in place. He couldn't understand that everything else can't suffer for immediate indoor facility.
I wanted him here as much as anyone but it's time to move on. I don't believe that Hobbs/BOG are to blame. The fricken state is broke and the donors can only help so much. And it sounds to me like we damn near met every one of his demands.
I think what stings the most is that we all thought Schiano loved RU as much as we do. Sure doesn't seem so...
I think what stings the most is that we all thought Schiano loved RU as much as we do. Sure doesn't seem so...
Def was a lot more than Greg’s salary. Rutgers didn’t want to give Greg a football only facility, so Greg said fine, need more money for assistants. RU didn’t want to give.
Also other stuff going on with Hobbs as well
Give a camp the HC, keep nunzio as OC, get jh from osu as dc for a huge salary.
The B1G is way too big for the clowns running the show here. We are a very small time program that just happens to have a good location.
Been saying this a lot. Coaching is a job. Not a love affair, no matter what coaches sometimes say (Coach-speak). Coaches don’t love schools. They are professionals doing a job.
No, actually we didn’t met his demands which is why he isn’t here. Unbelievable that people choose to believe Hobbs, who is so out of his depth it’s laughable.
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