Schiano talks are off

[KnightFan]

Tennessee was set to pay him 6 years/27 million, so it wasn’t out of line with his market value.

In any case, stupid on both sides as this was a win-win situation

Time to find the next no name co-ordinator with zero head coaching experience. The good news is that we can’t sink any lower

 

[wisr01]

I just read salary was not issue...

A source with direct knowledge of the negotiations said that Schiano’s salary was not one of the hold-ups. He was slated to be paid among the bottom three head coaches in the Big Ten. The source added that Schiano made concessions from many of his initial asks.

Sounds like Rutgers gonna Rutgers it once again.


https://sports.yahoo.com/greg-schia...sted-in-head-coach-job-anymore-193103507.html

 

[mildone_rivals]

Pat Hobbs has bungled this search to a spectacular level.

Wrong.

 

[mildone_rivals]

Schiano, if the reports are true, either didn't really want the job or is completely out of his mind. RU's offer, again if the reports are true, was very generous and did everything required of them.

Next man up.

 

[TheHandOfChaos]

Sucks, but those demands from GS, if true, are absurd.

What were the demands, i dont see it

 

[mildone_rivals]

What were the demands, i dont see it

RU reportedly offered $32M over 8 years. Plus replacing the bubble. Plus $7.5M budget for assistants.

 

[mikeru_rivals337032]

Stupid. Never going to happen.

I thought your sources said nothing has changed over the last few days?

 

[wisr01]

Schiano, if the reports are true, either didn't really want the job or is completely out of his mind. RU's offer, again if the reports are true, was very generous and did everything required of them.

Next man up.

Not according to guy who broke the news Pete Thamel.

A source with direct knowledge of the negotiations said that Schiano’s salary was not one of the hold-ups. He was slated to be paid among the bottom three head coaches in the Big Ten. The source added that Schiano made concessions from many of his initial asks.



https://sports.yahoo.com/greg-schia...sted-in-head-coach-job-anymore-193103507.html

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

I accept any and all apologies from those that mocked me.

Well I told you it's not over til it's over and until you see name has been pulled or something like that and it can always happen until just after the season as the last drop dead date. Now it looks like it's over.

But in the end what did the worrying get you whether it happened or didn't....what will be will be is my attitude if it's not in my control...doesn't matter if it's something I prefer or not.

 

[mildone_rivals]

Not according to guy who broke the news Pete Thamel.

A source with direct knowledge of the negotiations said that Schiano’s salary was not one of the hold-ups. He was slated to be paid among the bottom three head coaches in the Big Ten. The source added that Schiano made concessions from many of his initial asks.



https://sports.yahoo.com/greg-schia...sted-in-head-coach-job-anymore-193103507.html

Conflicting news reports then. This was posted earlier, which is where I got my info.

https://watchstadium.com/news/greg-...didate-for-rutgers-head-coach-job-11-24-2019/

 

[Knight Shift]

I just read salary was not issue...

A source with direct knowledge of the negotiations said that Schiano’s salary was not one of the hold-ups. He was slated to be paid among the bottom three head coaches in the Big Ten. The source added that Schiano made concessions from many of his initial asks.

Sounds like Rutgers gonna Rutgers it once again.


https://sports.yahoo.com/greg-schia...sted-in-head-coach-job-anymore-193103507.html

But see the NJ.com quote above. Seems like the sources may be contradictory, as they tend to be in these situations.

 

[RUScrew85]

Bye bye. I am a official a Clemson fan now. #ALLIN #BYOG #IPTAY

Go Texas!

 

[ScarletCrimson]

This is ********.

 

[Ru-baby]

Amazing the Hobbs defense. Citing only one of two contrary sources.

Where does the buck stop- for a few never with AD.

Awful news

 

[cohwx]

Typical Rutgers. My takeaway, assuming they don't get back together and hammer something out, is that Schiano didn't really want to be here enough to accept less than he asked for (probably mostly in terms of facilities, it sounds like), and RU isn't really willing to pay up for the program.

Pick your coordinator, we're probably back to that again. LOL.

 

[wisr01]

But see the NJ.com quote above. Seems like the sources may be contradictory, as they tend to be in these situations.

Thamel is the one who broke the news and was speaking to someone with real info on negotiations.

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

But see the NJ.com quote above. Seems like the sources may be contradictory, as they tend to be in these situations.

Neither side wants to look bad and wants to save face so gets their story out...who knows what's true.

I know everyone is going to stew in this new for a bit but I say move on quick to your other choices and hire the candidate you think has the best potential and hope it works and if it does great and if it doesn't try again. Always my theme.

 

[Postman_1]

Does this mean we finally stop all these annoying Schiano threads?

 

[RU#1fan]

Stupid. Never going to happen.

really
And you know this how ?
Let’s check back in 4 years. Hope I am totally wrong.
Doormat status won’t be tolerated by the fans or the B1G.

 

[RUScrew85]

"Rutgers was prepared to offer Schiano an eight-year, $32 million deal – of which $25.2 million was fully-guaranteed – and an additional $7.5 million annually for his assistant coaches and support staff, a source said. This would have put Rutgers in the upper-half of the Big Ten in salaries, but a significant gap remained between Schiano and Rutgers, a source said."

Fu-ck that guy. That mediocre, never won the Big East, clown turned down $32M guaranteed?

He's been playing us since day 1.

 

[RUScrew85]

It is reported that Schiano turned down $4 million per year for eight years. If those figures are true, the deal is more than generous considering his market worth. The blame should go to Schiano for being greedy and refusing the deal.

Greg knew.

 

[Knight Shift]

Fu-ck that guy. That mediocre, never won the Big East, clown turned down $32M guaranteed?

He's been playing us since day 1.

You serious, Clark?

 

[Ru-baby]

4 years 8 million offer? 2 mill year????

What??? Per sargeant.
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On Sunday, NJ Advance Media confirmed a report that the two sides have walked away from negotiations after three weeks of haggling over salaries and facilities, with Schiano leaving a reported four-year deal worth $8 million on the table.

 

[RCBeta79]

This search has been tainted from the beginning...an AD that did not want Schiano, an article bringing up Penn State again, Rivals post regarding Coach Campanile looking for a house recently, and now a posting of the financial offer only (story line that Greg's financial deal was not enough), but no mention of Rutgers response to the infrastructure demands that Schiano wanted for us to become competitive in Football with other Big Ten programs.

Question: Did Rutgers says no to the Greg's infrastructure demands?
The answer to this question will tell the story of how this deal fell through.

 

[Knight Shift]

Welfare check for @RUSCFORMERLYRULOU . You OK, buddy?

 

[JRZEER]

Thamel is the one who broke the news and was speaking to someone with real info on negotiations.

Probably someone from RU. Let the fans know they tried to appease them with a Schiano.

 

[Jackson206:)]

Now we get to see all the coaches lining up for the job. All those who didn't want Schiano got their wish. Good luck.

 

[RUScrew85]

I think he surfaces back in the NFL as a position coach

Lol, no.

 

[RUScrew85]

You serious, Clark?

Put me back on ignore dickhead

 

[AreYouNUTS]

I thought your sources said nothing has changed over the last few days?

Well apparently they did today. Negotiations, unfortunately, are “fluid.” I thought YOUR sources said Golden to be announced on Weds?

 

[studed]

Unless it’s because Butch Jones or Urban Meyer is accepting the position, I don’t know what to say.

butch jones is not going to make things any better

 

[AreYouNUTS]

really
And you know this how ?
Let’s check back in 4 years. Hope I am totally wrong.
Doormat status won’t be tolerated by the fans or the B1G.

NEVER HAPPEN

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

Typical Rutgers. My takeaway, assuming they don't get back together and hammer something out, is that Schiano didn't really want to be here enough to accept less than he asked for (probably mostly in terms of facilities, it sounds like), and RU isn't really willing to pay up for the program.

Pick your coordinator, we're probably back to that again. LOL.

Mike Elko would work for me...I know a lot of the GS guys like Hafley though. No guarantees, GS included as well IMO, but lots of types of coaches can do respectable jobs. I've often given examples of a handful of schools who have had just as bad records as ours and have done respectable...so I always have hope and see that it can be done in different fashions.

Jonathan Smith (who the hell is that you say lol) doing a solid job at Oregon State in year 2 likely to just miss out on bowl eligibility taking over a big mess left by Gary Andersen.

Tom Allen 7 wins lowest paid HC in the B10 challenged PSU in Happy Valley.

Kevin Wilson same who brought IU up to near that bowl level.

David Cutcliffe/Matt Campbell/Jeff Brohm same....so it can be done and there are different ways of doing it.

 

[HeavenUniv.]

We have just told every New Jersey high school coach and player, don’t even bother looking at us. Unless we find some young miracle guy out there,We will continue to recruit against rinky dink schools like Temple, Toledo, UMass, James Madison, etc.

 

[RU#1fan]

Fu-ck that guy. That mediocre, never won the Big East, clown turned down $32M guaranteed?

He's been playing us since day 1.

sounds like facilities non- commitment by RU was the breaking point.
He knows what it takes in terms of infrastructure for the Program to compete in the B1G.
It appears Rutgers would not invest in the future for football .... no surprise

 

[ruready4somefootball_rivals]

I accept any and all apologies from those that mocked me.

Lmao, so many of the usual suspects that called many morons and idiots will be eating so much crow.

 

[ru66]

I just read salary was not issue...

A source with direct knowledge of the negotiations said that Schiano’s salary was not one of the hold-ups. He was slated to be paid among the bottom three head coaches in the Big Ten. The source added that Schiano made concessions from many of his initial asks.

Sounds like Rutgers gonna Rutgers it once again.


https://sports.yahoo.com/greg-schia...sted-in-head-coach-job-anymore-193103507.html

so what was it?? sounds like RU, if they agreed to his demands as stated was willing but he was not

 

[studed]

So glad they didn't pay this lifetime mediocre coach his ransom demand.

Now let's go get Luke Fiuckell and everyone will be happy by year 2.

luke is not coming.

 

[tico brown]

To all the pro Schiano people: Honestly, was this not good enough of an offer for Schiano?

"Rutgers was prepared to offer Schiano an eight-year, $32 million deal – of which $25.2 million was fully-guaranteed – and an additional $7.5 million annually for his assistant coaches and support staff, a source said. This would have put Rutgers in the upper-half of the Big Ten in salaries, but a significant gap remained between Schiano and Rutgers, a source said."

 

[Knight Shift]

Neither side wants to look bad and wants to save face so gets their story out...who knows what's true.

I know everyone is going to stew in this new for a bit but I say move on quick to your other choices and hire the candidate you think has the best potential and hope it works and if it does great and if it doesn't try again. Always my theme.

The truth lies somewhere between.

The pro-Schiano crowd will (or already):
1. Call for Hobbs to be fired.
2. Yell at the BOG
3. Blame anyone else but Greg
4. Say they are done and will not renew season tickets.
5. Will cast stones at every candidate that is interviewed and ultimately hired.

Others, who would have accepted Schiano but did not want to pay too much, as well as the anti-Schiano crowd:
1. Say it is Greg's fault
2. Say Greg was too greedy
3. Say he was not worth the money
4. Are ready to move on.
5. May or may not be that excited about the head coach hire--depends on who.