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rutgersguy1 said:
Mike Elko would work for me...I know a lot of the GS guys like Hafley though. No guarantees, GS included as well IMO, but lots of types of coaches can do respectable jobs. I've often given examples of a handful of schools who have had just as bad records as ours and have done respectable...so I always have hope and see that it can be done in different fashions.
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No one is a guarantee (maybe Urban) and you can always get lucky with a coordinator (as in Schiano 1.0) or lower level head coach. I'll wait and see who gets hired, we'll see if this job is really as desirable as some think. I'm guessing they'll just make Nunzio the head coach permanently.
 
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I don't know guys, reading between the lines it sounds like Greg Schiano really wanted to come back to Rutgers as head coach, but AD Roy Hobbes just wasn't willing to work on improving facilities. Hojestly i don't see how anyone could blame Greg here. Looks like we afe going to end up with Ash 2.0 after all.
 
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tico brown said:
To all the pro Schiano people: Honestly, was this not good enough of an offer for Schiano?

"Rutgers was prepared to offer Schiano an eight-year, $32 million deal – of which $25.2 million was fully-guaranteed – and an additional $7.5 million annually for his assistant coaches and support staff, a source said. This would have put Rutgers in the upper-half of the Big Ten in salaries, but a significant gap remained between Schiano and Rutgers, a source said."
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Not the way I heard it:

Rutgers officials interviewed Schiano on Nov. 5 near Columbus, Ohio, and he’s been the prohibitive favorite to return to the school where he coached from 2001 to 2011. During that meeting, Schiano detailed a list of potential expenditures that he felt would be the minimum for the school to become competitive in the Big Ten East. This included staff salaries, support staff salaries and facilities upgrades — areas where Rutgers is lagging far behind its Big Ten peers.

Although they went deep into discussions this week, Schiano wasn’t going to accept job parameters that he felt wouldn’t give him a realistic chance to win in the conference. The sides couldn’t come to an agreement over multiple facets of the negotiation. While Rutgers was willing to increase support significantly from its current levels, it wasn’t to the threshold that Schiano saw as necessary.

A source with direct knowledge of the negotiations said that Schiano’s salary was not one of the hold-ups. He was slated to be paid among the bottom three head coaches in the Big Ten. The source added that Schiano made concessions from many of his initial asks.

The sides have been in frequent touch since the Nov. 5 meeting when Schiano laid out a granular plan that detailed what he felt it would take to revive the school’s lagging football program.
 
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RUScrew85

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Knight Shift said:
Maybe this will change your mind:
https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/...be-rutgers-head-coach-deal-falls-through.html

"The initial sticking point between Rutgers and Schiano was his desire for a written guarantee the university would construct a fieldhouse to replace the practice bubble and serve as a new indoor facility, as well as replace the Hale Center with a new football-only building. Rutgers has long planned to build a fieldhouse but was not willing to guarantee Schiano’s demand for new program headquarters. Schiano then requested a longer contract and a larger salary pool for assistant coaches and support staff to offset the facilities compromise. The two sides were then unable to reach an agreement on those terms that would receive a majority approval vote from the Rutgers Board of Governors prior to the deal falling through."

So, how was Hobbs supposed to anticipate asks that were above an beyond what Les Miles go. Many sources said they offered Greg $32 million, 8 year deal. And he asked for even more when he did not get a new Hale Center. That's on Hobbs?
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He didn't want the job he's playing us.
 
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Well, shoot. The disappointing thing is that GS wasn’t even an over the moon, reach for stars hire like we were going after Urban Meyer. I was 100% in on Schiano not because he’s the greatest coach ever but because I believe he had the skills to right the ship and rebuild the program into something exciting again. And Rutgers screwed it up. A middle of the road hire, who would have likely gotten us back to the level of our peers. And we screwed it up.

No respectable head coach will come here now. Take that to the bank. We’re going to take a guess on an up and comer, and be right back here in four years.

My bar is not high. I don’t expect national championship or perennial top 10 rankings. All I’m looking for is for Rutgers to compete. Instead it shoots itself in the foot.

Frankly, I’m embarrassed.
 
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Bleed_Scarlet said:
Tennessee was set to pay him 6 years/27 million, so it wasn’t out of line with his market value.

In any case, stupid on both sides as this was a win-win situation

Time to find the next no name co-ordinator with zero head coaching experience. The good news is that we can’t sink any lower
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LMAO
So true.
No commitment to FOOTBALL facilities. And don’t anyone give me BS about some new grass practice fields that were 10 years overdue.
 
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cohwx said:
No one is a guarantee (maybe Urban) and you can always get lucky with a coordinator (as in Schiano 1.0) or lower level head coach. I'll wait and see who gets hired, we'll see if this job is really as desirable as some think. I'm guessing they'll just make Nunzio the head coach permanently.
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I hope not ....that would be Kyle Flood redux to me.

It's a P5 job in the B10 there will be names with a resume worthy of the opportunity, like Ash even though he wasn't on my radar, and then see what they can do. If they work great and if they don't try again....always been my theme and I don't lose hope cause I see what other non-big name coaches were able to accomplish in similar situations.
 
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Hobbs is a clown. Time for him to go. He has butchered the football program beyond belief. Even if Schiano played him (and I don’t think he did) it’s on Hobbs that we’re even in this position — late November and starting a new round of interviews after we fired a coach in September.
 
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Schiano isn't the only coach out there, and him leaving the Patriots is strange to be honest. That job would have lead to an NFL head coaching job.
 
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If its facility upgrades were the reason...its goodbye any chance of future success.

Unless its Butch Jones im out for supporting this charade
 
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Well there will be a lot of spin from both sides on this one. I guess the search committee we hired might actually have to do some work now. Pressure is on Hobbs big time. Better get a plan B in motion quickly. Would take either Butch Jones or Luke Fickell. Don't really want Al Golden. Did not like the names in the NJ.com article today. Hafley could be a dark horse here. I will reserve judgment on whether this is a significant loss until seeing who we hire.
 
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wisr01

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rufeelinit said:
Well there will be a lot of spin from both sides on this one. I guess the search committee we hired might actually have to do some work now. Pressure is on Hobbs big time. Better get a plan B in motion quickly. Would take either Butch Jones or Luke Fickell. Don't really want Al Golden. Did not like the names in the NJ.com article today. Hafley could be a dark horse here. I will reserve judgment on whether this is a significant loss until seeing who we hire.
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From Thamel:

Michigan assistant coach Anthony Campanile, a former Rutgers player, is considered a strong candidate.
 
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rutgersguy1 said:
I hope not ....that would be Kyle Flood redux to me.

It's a P5 job in the B10 there will be names with a resume worthy of the opportunity, like Ash even though he wasn't on my radar, and then see what they can do. If they work great and if they don't try again....always been my theme and I don't lose hope cause I see what other non-big name coaches were able to accomplish in similar situations.
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Ash 2.0
 
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bitnez said:
Hobbs is a clown. Time for him to go. He has butchered the football program beyond belief. Even if Schiano played him (and I don’t think he did) it’s on Hobbs that we’re even in this position — late November and starting a new round of interviews after we fired a coach in September.
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Hobbs had the whole off season and two months before we got to November to know what Schianos demands were. It never had to get this deep in the process. One blunder after another for Mr Hobbs but thats what you get when you hire an omnibudsman to be an AD
 
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mikeru said:
When it doesn't happen, I'll just say things are fluid like you did.
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I’ll wait for all the articles about it first :ThumbsUp

(funny thing is TOS claimed that Hobbs has “very little interest” in Golden SO I’m wondering IF HIS people reached out to Hobbs this week...)
 
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Seems Hobbs getting his desire to put his guy he can control. What a shame.

Think we’re gonna hear quite a bit about what really happened eventually. And why our A.D. couldn’t sell the one guy who could go into living rooms and compete with Harbaugh Franklin and Ohio State
 
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Knightmoves

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wisr01 said:
From Thamel:

Michigan assistant coach Anthony Campanile, a former Rutgers player, is considered a strong candidate.
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I would gladly sign up for this hire. RU needs a local, ground roots team of coaches who know the NJ area, are respected here and can motivate young hs recruits.

Sorry to say but I’m relieved if Greg is out. He is a dinosaur imo.

Greg wanted to fleece RU without assuming much risk on himself. I think that Greg is no friend to RU.

I hope he gets another offer but I’m happy to say buh bye Greg.
 
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bitnez

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gef21 said:
The fact that schiano turned it down says everything we need to know about him.
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Agree — yes, he wants to be paid but it’s more important to him that we have the facilities in place in order to succeed. He could’ve come here collected $$$ but that’s obviously not what’s really important to him
 
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