Schiano Men GITT

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Stop picking nits. Rutgers' NIL is in line with or more than: Louisville (ranked), Arizona State, Illinois and Washington. Do you know what those schools have that Rutgers does not? No, not fieldhouses--a book of excuses and a cadre of fans that buy into the book of excuses and revel in mediocrity.
I don’t know what Louisville or ASU has, but Washington and Illinois have the best fieldhouses money can buy. Washington has MSFT money, AMZN money, COST money and SBUX money, as tons of their alumni went there, and they also have boats, which is why sailgating is a thing. Demond Williams their qb, himself is getting 4M, thats most of our budget

 
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Ok. Fine $20m. I'll play by your numbers.
We go 4-8 this year.
"Mulligan" because only $20m.

Suppose 2027 is only $25m.
Well below your $30m threshold for
accountability.
Does that mean no accountability and a other "mulligan"?

Schiano gets to wait until 2028 to be held to expectations?
And when we are still below the ever increasing "RutgersAl required minimum roster spend" - another mulligan?

Seems Schiano can go 4-8/5-7 for life and never have any expectations?
If we spend $25M, there are 4 other Big Ten teams spending similarly to us and all have better facilities. Then there are 9 other Big Ten teams significantly outspending us. If $30M is the baseline, then $25M is inadequate. There is a Rutgers Tax due to our situation, which is why we have to overspend on players.
 

BossNJ

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Well Greg is a National champ coordinator, that’s the point. I don’t think we’re finding another coach who’s had first hand experience recruiting/coaching with Urban Meyer, and scheming up defenses with Bill Belichick…..

To be over .500 in Big 10 you have to beat 5 of these 9…..
USC, Indiana, Maryland, Northwestern, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Penn State, Michigan State….

So let’s say we play go a perfect 4-for-4 and beat Maryland, Northwestern, Nebraska, Michigan State….no hiccups.

After going perfect against them, now you still have to pick off one of USC, Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin, Penn State…. a reasonable goal to have… but given where our program was just a short time ago… also reasonable that it hasn’t happened yet
Al is that you??

😂😂😂
 

RU#1fan

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Mar 7, 2003
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Me too. I came in with Greg & I'll go out with him.
I didn't go to RU & I didn't even know where it was even though i grew up in SJ. I loved college football & was a Temple fan. When Greg was hired, I saw his 1rst recruiting class and was amazed & slowly started to get sucked in to root for the home team. If he goes, I go back to Temple ( i didnt go to Temple either)
Have fun with the other 3000 Temple fans on a Saturday afternoon at the LINC. Good riddance
 
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Shelby65

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Pariah Al…Shelby is reminding everyone of your 6’230” hulking, bad, bad man claims. No running away.

Care to move to the goalposts from your asinine views of your new fantasy lover’s competence back to your macho boasts ? (When did you move on from Wimsatt again?)

The competence/mulligan logic beatdown is an epic failure for the ages. Let’s backtrack to the above. Tell us again how jacked you are and a frighteningly fearsome human specimen. Discuss/scare us. Go :
 
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AreYouNUTS

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Aug 1, 2001
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So if Rutgers is at Total Roster Cost of approx $25m again in 2027 - Schiano gets another mulligan?
Maybe in 2028 he has to actually be held accountable for winning?

For the $30m in 2027 - how do you expect Rutgers to nearly double their NIL fundraising - coming off losses to UMass, BC and presumably a bottom of the B1G finish?
Al doesn’t believe we spent that much. He has convinced himself everyone is lying because GS is the greatest coach in history.
 

Bob Chaewsky_rivals

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Me too. I came in with Greg & I'll go out with him.
I didn't go to RU & I didn't even know where it was even though i grew up in SJ. I loved college football & was a Temple fan. When Greg was hired, I saw his 1rst recruiting class and was amazed & slowly started to get sucked in to root for the home team. If he goes, I go back to Temple ( i didnt go to Temple either)
Bye!
 

Knight Shift

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be con in riot GIF
 
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Bob Chaewsky_rivals

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Well Greg is a National champ coordinator, that’s the point. I don’t think we’re finding another coach who’s had first hand experience recruiting/coaching with Urban Meyer, and scheming up defenses with Bill Belichick…..

To be over .500 in Big 10 you have to beat 5 of these 9…..
USC, Indiana, Maryland, Northwestern, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Penn State, Michigan State….

So let’s say we play go a perfect 4-for-4 and beat Maryland, Northwestern, Nebraska, Michigan State….no hiccups.

After going perfect against them, now you still have to pick off one of USC, Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin, Penn State…. a reasonable goal to have… but given where our program was just a short time ago… also reasonable that it hasn’t happened yet
Good chance either Chris Ash or Kyle Flood will be a national champ coordinator this year.
 

RUTGERS95

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Sep 28, 2005
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Me too. I came in with Greg & I'll go out with him.
I didn't go to RU & I didn't even know where it was even though i grew up in SJ. I loved college football & was a Temple fan. When Greg was hired, I saw his 1rst recruiting class and was amazed & slowly started to get sucked in to root for the home team. If he goes, I go back to Temple ( i didnt go to Temple either)
lol stop Joe, go get a real job now
 

rurx1228

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I may be in the minority on this …. But I feel like there are a lot of people in my camp who are feeling the same thing but not going to speak up on it …. If Schiano goes, I go too.

I’m 35 years old and grew up on Rutgers football with Greg Schiano. My family and I have had season tix and tailgate just about every game since 2004. Live it, eat it, breathe it. Today we brought my 5 month old daughter to her first Rutgers Football game, and it brought back memories to when I was a kid watching Schiano take on the Miami Hurricanes

We won a grand total of 3 games in the 2 years prior to Schiano’s return, and we went winless in the Big 10 2 years in a row…. We were losing recruits to Temple ….. Easy to forget just how bad things were when he took over in 2020…. My Rutgers football fandom was really waning until his return.

Progress is never linear like people want it to be but since he’s been back we’ve been trending up. Greg’s had to deal with pathetic leadership above him (Hobbs), severe lack of resources, and is only just finally getting real leadership from above.

UMass was a bad loss. UMass played lights out but no excuse to lose that game. BC is a game we should have won on paper but our QB play was really bad and have to give credit to their QB who made plays. Super easy for recency bias to say “hey we suck fire the coach” but to me it’s a truly weak take.

We need to get better. QB play has been well below where it needs to be, and our defense showed some flashes today but needs to be way more consistent.

Give Schiano another year in the portal with continuity of staff, real NIL backing, and alignment from above, and let’s see what he can do.

The anti-Schiano mob has been coming for Greg for years and just been waiting for the right opportunity to pounce. It feels like we’re nearing a tipping point…. And I hate to say it but if Greg goes, I go too. I stand with Greg
Go Away GIF
 
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satnom

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If Franklin could not compete in the B1G at Penn State, he was not going to come to Rutgers . . . .
My man, in 2024 Franklin led State Penn to 13-3 record and was a drive away from beating Notre Dame and playing in the Natty game against Bama.

That dude is not a champion but he’s definitely a winner. Guy is 131-60 (.686 Win %) in 16 yrs as a head coach.

GO RU
 

PSAL_Hoops

Heisman
Feb 18, 2008
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Again, no one is talking about that.

I thought the tactical/strategy thing kind of explains this.

It’s not about this season, that’s over. The quicker the future can begin, the better.

You want to keep him? Fine, announce he’s out the end of the season and officially get the ball rolling now as well.

Actually - yes, there are plenty talking about firing him right now before the bye week. Some making the case that it somehow gives a head start in finding a replacement. that logic is ridiculous. The same “shopping” can be done regardless.
 

e5fdny

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Nov 11, 2002
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Actually - yes, there are plenty talking about firing him right now before the bye week. Some making the case that it somehow gives a head start in finding a replacement. that logic is ridiculous. The same “shopping” can be done regardless.
Shopping and buying are two different things.
 

PSAL_Hoops

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Shopping and buying are two different things.

We are not announcing a new hire until the season ends no matter what. Anyone worth a lick is currently employed somewhere else. There is no future benefit to the program of plugging in an interim unless the team starts performing like we did vs Oregon and the firing is done to try to infuse life into the program. There is otherwise no purpose to doing it mid season. We just need to get through the season without absorbing too much more negative spotlight like UMass or 78-0 type losses.
 

OriginalKnight

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Sep 16, 2014
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Schiano sucks. I’ve resigned to that fact. He’s a 20 year+ HC with a losing record.

I’m excited for the next coach. Rutgers has a lot of potential being wasted on a career loser. Can’t wait to see what Keli can hire and what they can do. I’m not a Schiano fan. I’m a fan of Rutgers.
This isn’t lacrosse, men are speaking here.
 

Knight Shift

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My man, in 2024 Franklin led State Penn to 13-3 record and was a drive away from beating Notre Dame and playing in the Natty game against Bama.

That dude is not a champion but he’s definitely a winner. Guy is 131-60 (.686 Win %) in 16 yrs as a head coach.

GO RU
Understood. My point is that he wanted to go to a place that he could build a winner and compete as soon as possible. Virginia Tech has history and a large and loyal fanbase that donates.
 
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Blitz8RU

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I may be in the minority on this …. But I feel like there are a lot of people in my camp who are feeling the same thing but not going to speak up on it …. If Schiano goes, I go too.

I’m 35 years old and grew up on Rutgers football with Greg Schiano. My family and I have had season tix and tailgate just about every game since 2004. Live it, eat it, breathe it. Today we brought my 5 month old daughter to her first Rutgers Football game, and it brought back memories to when I was a kid watching Schiano take on the Miami Hurricanes

We won a grand total of 3 games in the 2 years prior to Schiano’s return, and we went winless in the Big 10 2 years in a row…. We were losing recruits to Temple ….. Easy to forget just how bad things were when he took over in 2020…. My Rutgers football fandom was really waning until his return.

Progress is never linear like people want it to be but since he’s been back we’ve been trending up. Greg’s had to deal with pathetic leadership above him (Hobbs), severe lack of resources, and is only just finally getting real leadership from above.

UMass was a bad loss. UMass played lights out but no excuse to lose that game. BC is a game we should have won on paper but our QB play was really bad and have to give credit to their QB who made plays. Super easy for recency bias to say “hey we suck fire the coach” but to me it’s a truly weak take.

We need to get better. QB play has been well below where it needs to be, and our defense showed some flashes today but needs to be way more consistent.

Give Schiano another year in the portal with continuity of staff, real NIL backing, and alignment from above, and let’s see what he can do.

The anti-Schiano mob has been coming for Greg for years and just been waiting for the right opportunity to pounce. It feels like we’re nearing a tipping point…. And I hate to say it but if Greg goes, I go too. I stand with Greg
Agreed. Without Schiano I don't have much reason to root for Rutgers anymore. Already the players are paid to play so cfb already lost that student athlete vibe. with Schiano gone the whole team would just be a bunch of mercenaries coached by another mercenary. I wouldn't have much of a connection or interest in following Rutgers further.

I first got into football in 2006 so Schiano for me has special sentimental meaning as does Brian Leonard, Ray Rice etc. It would be an end of an age.
 
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RUDivision

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I know quite a few college football fans that say exactly that about Rutgers football. With or without GS.
Perhaps they remember all of the quality hires as head football coaches here not named Greg Schiano since the move by Rutgers to the Big Time.
Well Schiano created that problem so he should own it! Left us High and dry late forcing the Flood hire.. Flood was never a HC at this level but we tried to save “re ruining class”. Snowballed from there.

We also never had to competent ppl like Tate and Zinn in their roles. Not to mention both with experience in the sec .

Greggy can’t coach at this level and he’s gone
 
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RUTGERS95

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Understood. My point is that he wanted to go to a place that he could build a winner and compete as soon as possible. Virginia Tech has history and a large and loyal fanbase that donates.
but they don't, by every measure we saw from them their fanbase doesn't donate. They got money from 2 whales for all of this. Their facilities are atrocious, they had less in NIL than we did until getting him, and until Franklin, they were writing stories on how they won't be able to compete due to lack of funds, infrastructure and more.

VT was a mess, akin to us
 

RUTGERS95

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Sep 28, 2005
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Well Schiano created that problem so he should own it! Left us High and dry late forcing the Flood hire.. Flood was never a HC at this level but we tried to save “re ruining class”. Snowballed from there.

We also never had to competent ppl like Tate and Zinn in their roles. Not to mention both with experience in the sec .

Greggy can’t coach at this level and he’s gone
funny how many of greg's supporters forget the rut he left us in
 

Knight Shift

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funny how many of greg's supporters forget the rut he left us in
I still maintain that if we had a competent AD who had the football HC's back and provided half of the resources Greg had, instead of stabbing him in the back, Flood could have been a better head coach. But people can argue back and forth on this.
 
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RUTGERS95

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I still maintain that if we had a competent AD who had the football HC's back and provided half of the resources Greg had, instead of stabbing him in the back, Flood could have been a better head coach. But people can argue back and forth on this.
oh I agree, Timmy boy doesn't get a pass at all either
 
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