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Or someone convinces them to continue working on their game in the G-League as a mid/ late 2nd flyer, thus leaving UK back to little to no experience. I hope I’m wrong, and I will be very happy to be.
" losing their minds " isnt typing a few sentences on a damn message board . You always over react or just today ?
I do agree EVERY D1 level kid should apply , I mean if we are going to make a mockery out of being a NBA player we might as well go all in . Lastly stating a player isnt ready to go to the NBA IS NOT BAD MOUTHING HIM .. !! Trashing Tyler after the Arkansas game ?? that was bad mouthing.
Briscoe returned after he was told that he wouldn't get drafted? I could have sworn he left before he graduated to play overseas.
Quickley & Hagans 2 guys with common sense. They both are better ball players than Richards & EJ. Tired of this clown show.
Honesty has nothing to do with calling Nick a dufus. You do what you want to do but you are wrong.
Calling him a "dufus" is bad mouthing him. You are wrong calling him that.
You are correct . Poor choice of words for sure . Better to say nothing than to go negative on him ... this " process " is sucking the fun out of something dear to my heart , makes a guy get upset .
Good for him. The rules allow it, and one way or another it'll be an eye-opening experience.
Apparently he is (re. your first sentence/question). And he supported his embarrassment with decent logic actually, of how a player that was just given the message from his own coach that he was of no use when a final four was on the line could possibly believe he has earned the right to access greater opinions in hopes of improved messages about his abilities intended for even more critical purposes.
Because they could careless about the actual players that have to go out there and play for the entertainment of a bunch of selfish whiny babies!
He was a rookie 2nd rounder drafted to a team with an elite wing, before injury he was playing more than a lot of middle and late 1st rounders. Don't know what you expected in his first year but he's top 20-30 from rookies this year if they drafted today. Thats the point, the NBA is NOT college, rules aren't the same, the game isnt the same
Didn’t watch the players reaction after the last game, huh? Surely you couldn’t have. It would take a massive moron to make that comment after seeing the disappointment after the Auburn game.
You are right about one thing, $$$, are a motive. In fact I expect it is a major motivation for everyone on this board that isn’t independently wealthy or somehow latched to the government teat. It would be very strange for a 19 yr old of modest means not to be concerned about money. You were wise to point out that EVERYONE is concerned about money.
Now to your last sentence. I am most impressed. Very very few people can read minds. The only way for your statement to be made without any contact with the players, family or representatives would be to read minds. Otherwise, one would have to be a boorish, selfish, greedy idiot to make a comment like that in complete ignorance. Again, congratulations on your very rare gift.
I just can’t understand how any fan can’t get upset about the players testing... especially with how It probably affected the progress of PJ Washington. Do you think you work harder to become better without testing or testing and finding out you haven’t been working as hard as you thought? Now that doesn’t mean those that didn’t test doesn’t work hard but I can’t imagine someone testing and hearing “you just aren’t skilled enough right now and you don’t work hard enough” wouldn’t come back and work harder than they ever worked before to not only reach heir dream but to prove the scouts wrong.
To put yourself in their shoes, how about a bigger company has interviews and you’d get paid 100x more if you get the job, and at the same time your job is willing to take you back if you don’t get it? During the interview they tell you what you need to work on in order to get the job then say you aren’t qualified but try next year, would you just sit at your current job (a stepping stone job) or would you go for the interview to learn how to get better at your job and a very slight chance that you may get it?
To put yourself in their shoes, how about a bigger company has interviews and you’d get paid 100x more if you get the job, and at the same time your job is willing to take you back if you don’t get it? During the interview they tell you what you need to work on in order to get the job then say you aren’t qualified but try next year, would you just sit at your current job (a stepping stone job) or would you go for the interview to learn how to get better at your job and a very slight chance that you may get it?
I’ve been called worse, and that made no difference to me either. Take my post and spin any way you like it. I was speaking from my own fan perspective. Nothing I said was out of bounds. No debate is needed, as you will see it your way, and I’ll see it mine. That works for me.
Players can accept money for the sole purpose of the NBA evaluation nothing more or nothing less they can take money for food travel Hotel in San Juan long that is for the NBA process only
Posters like Gothic60 name call and insult because they are too ignorant to have a civil debate.
Maybe this will be a wakup call for both Nick and EJ.It's obvious neither are ready but hopefully this will make them realize how much they need to improve.
What’s there to back up? I was calling it like I see it. It’s impossible to win a championship if you fail to do so, and don’t return to try again. That’s not an opinion. That’s a universal fact. What is an opinion, is me saying there’s a chance EJ/ Richards, or both don’t return. That’s not for certain yet. I’m not sure what you found offensive to that?
Well, back when they changed the rule to where you could enter the draft multiple times and hire an agent, but still come back, Cal said it was the smart thing to do for almost all of them to go and be evaluated. I don't have a problem with that.
Please decide to leave and follow another team. Drop a line and let us know which one that may be so we can warn the new group of the impending idiocy that will barrage their board.
That’s the only possible negative side of this for UK IMO. I understand why they did it but I hope it doesn’t turn into this
Championship or a million bucks. Decide right now. .. no assurance of either.
You’d take the money. 99% of all19 yr olds would take the money. So you got no facts. You are just demonizing kids for taking an opportunity everyone Kong’s for.
And you have absolutely no idea with Nick or EJ will do. None what so ever. You have never spoken to either. You know none of their families, representatives or their coaching staff. You opinion is vapor. Based on far less data than any decisions EJ or Nick will make.
What did I find offensive? A grown man criticizing kids with absolutely nothing to go on. Nothing!! If I called your kid a money grubbing opportunist based on complete ignorance, you’d get upset. Yet that is exactly what you did, except you lack the eloquence to state it so clearly.
I’m sorry you took it that way. You’ll never see me “demonizing” any player at Kentucky. Look, ABSOLUTELY they have to take the money. We’re in agreement on that. I’m thinking both short term, and long term in that regard. Short term, Herro/ KJ/ EJ/ Richards all come back with a chip on their shoulders, and dominate CBB. Long term, I’d almost guarantee all of them would go higher next year as a result, making them more $$$, and a higher likelihood of that coveted 2nd contract. I’m just looking for a win/win for both parties, player and fan.
Or turn into the next Noel or Poythress. The list of injuries is long. Orton is the poster child for leaving on time with his glass knees. It is a very difficult decision. So maybe more money. Maybe no money.
Well, that’s always a possibility, however unlikely. As part of BBN, I’m just ready for the 2nd installment of 2015, or more importantly, 2012!
Having lived though 58- 78, 78 - 96 and 98 - 12, I can tell you to savor the champs you have. More often than not, they are quite rare. Clearly we have posters that do not fully appreciate what a rare treat 2012 was.
You realize he was here two years? You can go through the process multiple times.
No one is going to tell them that. They can’t get regular playing time in college. They will be told specific things to work on and to wait.
What is the worst that could happen? If they leave, it’s not to the NBA. Based on what we’ve seen of Nick so far, why would we be so upset if he did?
With EJ you still have some hope because he’s a freshman, but still.
With EJ you still have some hope because he’s a freshman, but still.
He’s going to come back and it’ll be like nothing ever happened. Then you’ll just be having a hissy fit about something else.
I look at it as a learning process. Just even getting a private workout with a team is GREAT experience and helps prepare you for the workout that will really count down the road.
Think of it like a job interview. The more practice at it you get, the better you'll be when the perfect job comes along. So going through the process can only help a young man be more comfortable in next year's process and so on.
Plus, Nick is more athletic than some of our fans give him credit for. He runs great for a big, FT shooting is improved (always a n upside for post players). What he needs more than anything is to learn to play defense with his feet, not his hands. And that alone would get him more minutes on the floor, which would help him offensively.
I'm betting he has 1/3 of the years of bb instruction as most of his peers. I'm still shocked we haven't heard of him spending a summer at a big man camp. Would do him worlds of good.
Think of it like a job interview. The more practice at it you get, the better you'll be when the perfect job comes along. So going through the process can only help a young man be more comfortable in next year's process and so on.
Plus, Nick is more athletic than some of our fans give him credit for. He runs great for a big, FT shooting is improved (always a n upside for post players). What he needs more than anything is to learn to play defense with his feet, not his hands. And that alone would get him more minutes on the floor, which would help him offensively.
I'm betting he has 1/3 of the years of bb instruction as most of his peers. I'm still shocked we haven't heard of him spending a summer at a big man camp. Would do him worlds of good.
You have me mistaken for someone that actually gives a ****, news flash, I don't, I could care less who goes and who stays. I am a UK fan, first and foremost and Cal will have a team on the floor next year, and I will watch them like I have done for over 50 years.
My point that went right over your head is this, the culture of college basketball is no longer about college, is about the NBA.
To get evaluated is a catch phrase. These kids are not going to get evaluated, they are going with the hopes of getting drafted,none want to return to school, and I am speaking about ALL the kids, from every school.
This culture is destroying something I truly love, college basketball. This isn't about just UK,or Nick, or EJ, it is about college basketball.
Now, go and have you another tantrum,because someone has an opinion you don't like.