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dukedevilz

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The kid is a monster. A taller Bonzi Colson

Except Bonzie Colson is a better rebounder, has a better outside shot...and Colson can actually block shots.

Travis is good, I will grant you. But he's not the same caliber as Colson, IMO. He'll play/start wherever he goes, but I suspect he could get all the minutes he wanted if he went to Nova.
 
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Jakarii

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Better rebounder last year but only by a little over one rebound a game, Colson shot horribly this year so I wouldn’t say better shooter

Except Bonzie Colson is a better rebounder, has a better outside shot...and Colson can actually block shots.

Travis is good, I will grant you. But he's not the same caliber as Colson, IMO. He'll play/start wherever he goes, but I suspect he could get all the minutes he wanted if he went to Nova.
 

dukedevilz

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Better rebounder last year but only by a little over one rebound a game, Colson shot horribly this year so I wouldn’t say better shooter

He has a better touch from outside; he extends the defense a little better than Travis would. His career true shooting percentage is 59%, compared to Travis, who was at 57%... Also, Bonzie has a career Player Efficeing Rating of 29.1 - Travis career PER is 21.5. I would say that's a significant difference. It only takes a few moments when you look at the advanced metrics to see why. Colson has a higher rebounding percentage, assist percentage, block percentage, steals percentage. He also has a lower turnover percentage and a much, much higher Box Plus/Minus. Reid Travis is a very good college basketball player, but Bonzie Colson is a great/elite college basketball player. JMO.
 

LouisiAaron

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He has a better touch from outside; he extends the defense a little better than Travis would. His career true shooting percentage is 59%, compared to Travis, who was at 57%... Also, Bonzie has a career Player Efficeing Rating of 29.1 - Travis career PER is 21.5. I would say that's a significant difference. It only takes a few moments when you look at the advanced metrics to see why. Colson has a higher rebounding percentage, assist percentage, block percentage, steals percentage. He also has a lower turnover percentage and a much, much higher Box Plus/Minus. Reid Travis is a very good college basketball player, but Bonzie Colson is a great/elite college basketball player. JMO.

Those shooting numbers can lie a tad bit. For two years Colson was the a top 3 option. Reid has pretty much been their top scorer which means he had more focus on him by opposing defenses. That brings down a player efficiency somewhat
 

sheyduke

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Those shooting numbers can lie a tad bit. For two years Colson was the a top 3 option. Reid has pretty much been their top scorer which means he had more focus on him by opposing defenses. That brings down a player efficiency somewhat
His first two years he had Chasen Randle to run the show. Travis chose to stay at Stanford so he could be the number one option. Colson came off the bench his first year and second as the sixth man. Being that Reid started every game for Stanford one would think his numbers would be higher.
 

sheyduke

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Stupid not to go after him. One injury to Bolden or Javin and duke is in trouble.
What’s to say Duke didn’t but received no interest back. It’s just not Javin and Bolden. There is still White and O’Connell can slide to the Sg spot and Duke can go small with Zion at the five and still be pretty big. There is Also Robinson and Big V and no one knows what Baker is gonna do, if he gonna red shirt or not.
 

dukejames

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I doubt Duke went after him. He is a below the rim power forward so not the best fit for next year's team IMO. Now a good shooting stretch 4 would be different if such is available at this point. Reid would have just helped clog the lane up and as a grad transfer would have expected a starting position so prob not a good fit for either party. LOL RR is already celebrating so it would be funny if he chose Villanova in the end.
 
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nets on nets on nets

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I'm gonna assume that Zion is the reason we were never true Reid Travis contenders.

Can't wait for Zion to dunk all over Reid in the Champion's Classic. Safe to say I'm not worried about Reid dunking on Zion, not sure the guy can even dunk...
 

dukedevilz

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Those shooting numbers can lie a tad bit. For two years Colson was the a top 3 option. Reid has pretty much been their top scorer which means he had more focus on him by opposing defenses. That brings down a player efficiency somewhat

False. Travis didn't start in 2015 and Rosco Allen was the leading scorer in 2016. Travis and Colson have very similar progressions. And as far as efficiency, what about Marvin Bagley, DeAndre Ayton, and Jock Landale? Those guys were all 20/10 and shooting 60%+ as the #1 option.
 

Mac9192

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I'm gonna assume that Zion is the reason we were never true Reid Travis contenders.

Can't wait for Zion to dunk all over Reid in the Champion's Classic. Safe to say I'm not worried about Reid dunking on Zion, not sure the guy can even dunk...
Pretty bold statement. Reid's pretty solid, and put him on a good team, like Kentucky, aren't they now contenders?
As far as Zion dunking on Reid, maybe that happens. Sure it will make top 10 plays, but it's only 2 points.
 

nets on nets on nets

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Pretty bold statement. Reid's pretty solid, and put him on a good team, like Kentucky, aren't they now contenders?
As far as Zion dunking on Reid, maybe that happens. Sure it will make top 10 plays, but it's only 2 points.
Dunks are cool though, and normally swing the momentum much stronger than a lay-up would.
Zion has 1.5 million instagram followers, Reid Travis has 3 thousand followers, lol. I know some don't care, but can we all at least enjoy Duke being the "cool" program?
 

Mac9192

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Dunks are cool though, and normally swing the momentum much stronger than a lay-up would.
Zion has 1.5 million instagram followers, Reid Travis has 3 thousand followers, lol. I know some don't care, but can we all at least enjoy Duke being the "cool" program?
I agree, it's neat being the "cool" program, but I'm more in to the end of year results.

Remember the movie "White men can't jump?" The scene where Woody Harrelson tells Wesley Snipes he would rather look dorky and win than cool and lose? I am the dorky and win guy.
 

Liftee

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Duke has always been the dorky-and-win program. Is it possible that Duke is becoming cool? Do we need to recruit more Plumlees or their clones to go back to dorky?
 

Mac9192

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Duke has always been the dorky-and-win program. Is it possible that Duke is becoming cool? Do we need to recruit more Plumlees or their clones to go back to dorky?
You're kind of missing the point. The "cool" part, had Duke as the #1 preseason team the last 2 seasons. This team is going to be top 3? Personally, I think it's a little too high. There's nothing wrong with being excited over the talent Duke has though. I'm anxious to see this team play myself.

The only year that Duke has won it all as the preseason favorite was 92. It's understandable that the 02 and 11 teams were the preseason favorites, but a team of honestly more question marks than answers? Forget national contenders for a second, finishing top 3 in the conference this season may be a good achievement.
 
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hart2chesson

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With Syracuse getting Tyus Battle back, a top 4 ACC finish for our guys is an accomplishment in some respects...

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lkc1021

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I doubt Duke went after him. He is a below the rim power forward so not the best fit for next year's team IMO. Now a good shooting stretch 4 would be different if such is available at this point. Reid would have just helped clog the lane up and as a grad transfer would have expected a starting position so prob not a good fit for either party. LOL RR is already celebrating so it would be funny if he chose Villanova in the end.
I agree. Duke doesn't want Travis. He is a low level role Player in a bad conference.
 
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lkc1021

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Reid has never even hinted at transfering. Some media saw him declare and talked about if he would transfer just based on other players transferring and fans have run with it which has turned it into Reid considering transferring. Fans getting their hopes up for nothing
Really.
 

LouisiAaron

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False. Travis didn't start in 2015 and Rosco Allen was the leading scorer in 2016. Travis and Colson have very similar progressions. And as far as efficiency, what about Marvin Bagley, DeAndre Ayton, and Jock Landale? Those guys were all 20/10 and shooting 60%+ as the #1 option.

I’m going to let you sit back and look at those 3 names and tell me what they have in common. Well except Landale. He was a big fish in a small pond.
 

dukedevilz

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I’m going to let you sit back and look at those 3 names and tell me what they have in common. Well except Landale. He was a big fish in a small pond.

All three of them were All-Americans... But you know what? So was Bonzie Colson in 2017, and he probably would have been in 2018 provided he were healthy for the duration of the season. Travis is a very solid player, all I'm saying is Colson is a better player. He was a top 10 type player, whereas Reid Travis might be top 40-50.
 

LouisiAaron

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All three of them were All-Americans... But you know what? So was Bonzie Colson in 2017, and he probably would have been in 2018 provided he were healthy for the duration of the season. Travis is a very solid player, all I'm saying is Colson is a better player. He was a top 10 type player, whereas Reid Travis might be top 40-50.

We’re talking Reid Travis. Bonzie didn’t even put up numbers like Alton, Bagley and Landale. He never came close to shooting 60% from the field as a primary option
 

nets on nets on nets

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I don't know how Bonzi Colson got thrown into this, I'm just happy we never have to see him again. Beating him in the ACC tourney this year (knocked them out of tourney contention) was pretty sweet.

If we battle Reid Travis in November, I'm confident Zion will get the best of him. And I'm willing to bet he didn't see too many defenders like Javin in the "soft" Pac-12.
 

LouisiAaron

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Healthy Colson or a healthy Travis? Give me Colson 8 days a week. No disrespect to Travis at all.

Colson is better than Reid Travis. I just said shooting numbers can lie at times because quality of shots matter. Playing with good players can make your percentage go up as well
 

Jakarii

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He likely won’t dunk on him but he would easily drop 20 plus on him. Reid drips buckets. Ask the future number one pick and his 7foot partner


I'm gonna assume that Zion is the reason we were never true Reid Travis contenders.

Can't wait for Zion to dunk all over Reid in the Champion's Classic. Safe to say I'm not worried about Reid dunking on Zion, not sure the guy can even dunk...
 

PatrickYates

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He likely won’t dunk on him but he would easily drop 20 plus on him. Reid drips buckets. Ask the future number one pick and his 7foot partner

Or we could ask every NBA talent evaluator, all of whom agree that Ayton needs a lot of work on D. His 7ft partner is also a defensive non-entity.
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Zona was a poor defensive team, as evidenced by how they were eviscerated in the NCAAT opening round (how much do they love UVA's NCAAT performance, BTW?). Scoring vs Zona wasn't ever hard last year. Stopping them from out scoring you was trickier, but obviously very doable.
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As others have said, monster numbers in a bad conf. And, as a little bit of a drill down, the Pac 12 BB is like the Big 12 FB: Pretty good offense, but horrible defense. At UK, Travis will be joining the opposite: mediocre offense but rugged defense every night.
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He should go to Nova. Best spot for him.
 
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