If he is not going to play any more this year then I absolutely agree we burned his redshirt year for nothing. agree on Odin as well.
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If he is not going to play any more this year then I absolutely agree we burned his redshirt year for nothing. agree on Odin as well.
oh make no mistake, I want us to get a qb where he can carry the team but we Gio is not that. I have no illusion on that. My problem is that the coaches don't help and how the fk can we make no adjustments when the PSU makes 3 in the first half alone and yet, our fans want to blame Gio??????
our coaches need to do better
This is spot on. I think everyone respects Gio's toughness and will to win. I also think if he started against eastern Michigan we win. But the fact is we are not getting good qb play or even average qb play. Not saying that there are better options on the bench (likely there is not), but it's just the way it is.
I stand by my statement. You are a turd. A dumb and angry turd. Guarantee you would smell awful.
You laugh at people saying he is not starting next year? Why is that? The kid is not even close to being ready to start for a Big 10 football team. He is not starting for his own high school team, but he’s going to come here and start as a true freshman??? Come on now.
He has the tools to be an excellent QB, but he needs time to put it together
Not even close to being ready yet ranked 130th on espns 300 top players and a 4 star qb on every site. Maybe he's not ready to start, but not "even close" is definitely hyperbole.
Like I said earlier, our fans are obsessed with how many stars a recruit has
I've only seen him play in a few games, but he is definitely not ready to play in the Big 10. No way.
I watch the games without trying to prove my preseason assessment was correct.
The fact that we were in this game so long with the banged up D and lack of offense is a testimony to good coaching. Franklin has the horses to break fast or close...not surprising he can adjust to our abilities.
So what are we supposed to do? Ignore all the ratings, and when we get a top rated recruit just say "stars mean nothing, he's no good."
Would rather have a 4 star qb commit who's been rated by a number of people who's job it is to watch them, then a two star qb who a few people on the message boards say is great.
Gio is a nice kid, mobile but he is not a B1G caliber qb...haven’t seen enough of Lewis...gotta give him another look before the season is over
I think our starting QB is Sitkowski, Chatman or Lewis next year. Early enrollee will help for sure.
WR’s are non existent due to our QB play and scheme, too early to say they can’t play but a Carroo type would help. He made Laviano look serviceable
I think our starting QB is Sitkowski, Chatman or Lewis next year. Early enrollee will help for sure.
WR’s are non existent due to our QB play and scheme, too early to say they can’t play but a Carroo type would help. He made Laviano look serviceable
I would love to be wrong and have Sitkowski come in and light the college football world on fire, but his rating is based off of his potential, which is through the roof. I’m not saying all of this to downplay the impact he can have for our football team, but I think those days are down the road and not next year. Now, I’m no expert obviously, but when a kid is not even starting for his high school team, I can’t see any chance he comes in as a true freshman and starts in the Big 10. If I am being honest, I think Chatman has more of a chance to make en early impact and Sitkowski, if he puts it together with all of his potential, to be a program changing QB in a couple years.
I think the D is doing great but coaching is all encompassing and thus far, it's not looking good. You want a good D but suck everywhere else?
you guys calling for a kid to start on day 1 when he doesn't start on his hs team is rich.
dumbest fanbase in America, that means some of you are worse than Uconn fan...lol
No true freshman is coming in here and starting day 1 and especially so if Kill thinks we can't run complicated plays cauuse the players we have don't get it.....
dumbest fanbase in America, that means some of you are worse than Uconn fan...lol
No true freshman is coming in here and starting day 1 and especially so if Kill thinks we can't run complicated plays cauuse the players we have don't get it.....
I will say people have a right to be upset in QB play, when last week Maryland can put in their 5th string QB, and still have a semblance of an offense.
Our "Captain Grad Transfer" QB couldn't get the offense to do anything with regularity nor Gio.
Our "Captain Grad Transfer" QB couldn't get the offense to do anything with regularity nor Gio.
I didn't see anyone call for him to "start on day 1" but to say anyone suggesting a true freshman could start at some point considering what we have at qb does not make us the "dumbest fanbase in America."
Again as bad as some are on calling for players to play right away, the other side is as bad if not worse when it comes to acting like freshman playing is impossible.
Gio's legs kept us competitive early but PSU caught on and then we had nothing. Gio has missed few big passes the last couple of games and it is getting frustrating. He throws all long balls on a straight line and too long. He needs to learn the Dodd rainbow pass, but maybe putting some air under the ball is like trying to improve accuracy, which is tough to do, but the coaches should be working on this in practice. Coaching could have helped with a screen call or maybe a flea flicker. We also don't have a receiver the physically looks like 84, one or two of those would make a difference.
Lewis is a freshman no reason to think this years experience isn't helping him to be ready to be a College QB next year and a starter.
Sitkowski might be a great pick-up, but not starting at IMG makes me think, despite the physical talent that makes him a 5 star , he might need to redshirt
to work on the mental aspect of his game.
On star system, my opinion: its just an educated guess based on what recruiting site scouts views of a players HS talent and usually the program that constantly brings in top talent ( 4&5* players)are constantly a top 10 team.
I won't knock it, even if it's not 100% accurate
Sitkowski might be a great pick-up, but not starting at IMG makes me think, despite the physical talent that makes him a 5 star , he might need to redshirt
to work on the mental aspect of his game.
On star system, my opinion: its just an educated guess based on what recruiting site scouts views of a players HS talent and usually the program that constantly brings in top talent ( 4&5* players)are constantly a top 10 team.
I won't knock it, even if it's not 100% accurate
Yeah! That stood out today. Even if they were not in the same area, they were at the same level most of the time. Something is very wrong with the play calling. when you have 3rd and eight with 5 receivers in the pattern and all of them are stopped within 5 yards of the LOS. Nobody moving and nobody clearing out. It's just impossible to move the sticks that way.
How long into '18 before we hear the ol board favorite "Just give him a chance".
This is a good answer, and you may well be right that Artur is not ready to start next year. I admit that him not starting on his team is not a great sign. However, acting like him starting is impossible, and anyone who suggests the possibility knows nothing is ridiculous. It's not 1982. Freshman qbs start all the time.
Again not saying it will happen, but it's also not absurd to suggest the possibility.
I like Gio a lot. He's tough as hell and an above average runner but let's be realistic. His accuracy is not good. He doesn't have a lot of touch. I remember last year posters complaining about the same things we're seeing now a year later. He's a 50% completion passer on a good day despite seldom airing it out.
Florida State is starting a true freshman for the first time in 30+ years because of injury and if not like they haven’t recruited 5* along the way. Even with 4 and 5* talent at every other position they are struggling.
Asking a true Freshman to start a QB against the teams in the Big10 is not realistic.
Asking a true Freshman to start a QB against the teams in the Big10 is not realistic.
you gotta put it in context...they put in #5 against us...not against the top teams of the B1G.
I distinctly remember the exact same things being said about this time last year on this board about Lewis...and the year before about Odin...seeing a pattern...the QB still
In high school is always our best option for the next season...
Guess you never heard of a kid named Hayden Rettig, top 200 national player 4* QB...was he ever close to starting for Rutgers?
Alright, and our defense today was able to hold Barkley pretty much in track.
Our defense is good enough to take away one facet of an opposition's offense, but not both. They sold out to slow down Barkley and did so, but this allowed McSorley to pick apart targets in space.
Did you notice how many times Gio scrambled after going back to pass? I don't think those were designed plays; rather, Gio didn't see anyone open and so he ran to make yardage. Our receivers are just not doing a good job getting separation. But it's not all their fault; Gio is missing receivers who are open, as with the passes into the end zone in the 1st and 4th quarter. So it's both QB and receivers. I don't know what to say about the coaching. I can't tell what patterns they're running, so I can't judge whether there are better patterns that can be run. I will say that I am surprised there aren't more short passes to our running backs, or more screens to wide receivers. Maybe the receivers will improve as they gain more experience; I suspect Gio, while he can improve, is pretty much a known quantity at this point.
I was very impressed with the D today. Many nice stops and just worn down by a good opponent. The was O was the problem. We are not good enough to run all day against the good teams without a passing threat. The Gio run is not enough to open it up.