potential player additions (part 2)

seccats04

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We very quickly run out of moves to make or ways to cover a major injury. I wonder if this is a choice or if Cal just can't get players here
Might be part strategy. If we have injuries next year he’ll have a built in excuse like this past year.
 
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Catfan2226

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No I agree. You guys will need a perfect season out of this roster for it to be a Final Four level team but its just hard to convince guys to come here just to be back up plans.
You play them...Arkansas and Auburn will be near the top of the SEC this coming season and they have full rosters and Muss and Pearl will play them.Barnes will to at UT..You got to play the kids.This 6 or 7 man rotation might get it done every now and then but if Davis goes down with an injury in 2012 I doubt we hang a banner.Some see a short roster as ok but I dont,its gonna bite you at some point.
 

docholiday51

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Might be part strategy. If we have injuries next year he’ll have a built in excuse like this past year.
We desreve a break with our recent rash of injuries that have derailed seasons. Maybe we luck out for a change but Cal doesn't seem to be doing himself any favors in that area and he keeps doing it over and over and it different ways.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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UK needs 3/4 They only have Livingston, toppin… Get another 6’8 6’9 shooter/slasher.. if he could get cleared Keyonte Johnson from Florida… he’s a perfect plug n play player
That’s the thing though, I highly doubt he ever gets cleared. It would be a cool story but you know that would be a worry all year, not only that he may not play but potentially worse could happen.
 

TFCat11

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Lol if our roster is set as is currently,then we are in a world of ****.
Not enough,simply not enough
Cal may add another player after Thiero, but it’s not going to be a solid contributor that can fill in for an injured player.

As it stands, any major injury to a starter next season, and you can drop any expectations considerably.
 
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TFCat11

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I think at least two of these things happen. In a dream world, all three!

Thiero commits
Dillingham reclass picks UK
Baldwin withdraws from draft and picks UK
Calipari is finished with the Dillinghams and the Baldwins this off-season. Both would displace a starter, and Cal isn’t going to do that. Yes, even if it means losing more games.

Players first, winning BB games second (or third). Yet, some fans wonder why some of us don’t give Cal more grace. That’s one of many reasons!
 

DaDirtyLeb69

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Ah I see. I just hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere but here like a whispered rumor and then Travis said he hadn't heard anything about it from Dillinghams camp. I can't see many kids following in Bates footsteps and forcing themselves into college for 2 years regardless of the NIL deals they can get.
I don’t either but if there’s a opening at Kentucky and hopefully the staff convince him
 

W1LDCAT22

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So who is available that we could add, either sign & re-classify, OR transfer portal. In particular, what portal players, some of whom declared for the draft but will pull out, have not chosen another school and we know we have contacted or we (fans think) should contact.

Prospects:
Miller
Theiro
Dillingham
Wagner (longshot would reclassify)

Portal:
Mosley (Missouri St)
Hunter (Iowa St)
M.Smith (Chattanooga)
Mayer (Baylor)
A.Davis (Detroit-Mercy)
T.Allen (NM St)
Green (N. Iowa)
Ramey (Texas)
Lofton (La Tech)
Baldwin (Milw-Wisc)

Others?
I have been screaming as an advocate for Tyrese Hunter. Was just a freshman last year, a highly sought after recruit in high school, not afraid of the big stage as he proved in NCAA Tournament and has the scoring prowess that I believe we desperately needed at the point guard position. I am not sure if we even reached out, but with Wheeler coming back I assume it throttled our potential in getting another high profile PG.

We all know by now that we are getting a commitment from Thiero this weekend. I think most of us are sleeping on this kid. He has tons of potential and very well could be our PG of the future. I believe he can even contribute right away, whether it being spot minutes or filling in if we have an injury.

With the minutes that are counted for that is already on our roster, I would be very surprised if we were to somehow get another player that would substantially make a difference, or even be a role player at this point. We would all like competition at all these positions, but kids shy more and more away from that nowadays and want their playing time guaranteed.
 
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bucsrule8872

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1 injury and season over.
That’s every year for every team. Doesn’t matter how deep we are, we lose the wrong player and it’s over.

If Tshiebwe goes down, there is no replacement for him. Anyone adequate enough to replace him is not going to waste a year of eligibility sitting behind the reigning NPOY this season.

Depth won’t save you. There’s just no way to have that kind of depth. Even Pitino in 1997 didn’t have the depth to save us from Anderson’s injury. You can’t replace a superstar. Heck you can’t replace any of your starters for that matter without drop off. There’s usually a reason they are starters.

Did incredible depth save us when Poythress went down in 2015?

Who could have stepped in for AD or MKG in 2012 and led us to a title?

How do you get a guy good enough to play to sit the bench, especially in this day and age of the transfer portal?
 
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jessieshorts8

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That’s every year for every team. Doesn’t matter how deep we are, we lose the wrong player and it’s over.

If Tshiebwe goes down, there is no replacement for him. Anyone adequate enough to replace him is not going to waste a year of eligibility sitting behind the reigning NPOY this season.

Depth won’t save you. There’s just no way to have that kind of depth. Even Pitino in 1997 didn’t have the depth to save us from Anderson’s injury. You can’t replace a superstar. Heck you can’t replace any of your starters for that matter without drop off. There’s usually a reason they are starters.

Did incredible depth save us when Poythress went down in 2015?

Who could have stepped in for AD or MKG in 2012 and led us to a title?

How do you get a guy good enough to play to sit the bench, especially in this day and age of the transfer portal.
Trouble is even if healthy the team right now isn't good enough to even win the SEC.Less shooters than last season.
 

bucsrule8872

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Trouble is even if healthy the team right now isn't good enough to even win the SEC.Less shooters than last season.
Not so sure.

Wallace replaces Washington.

Fredrick replaces Mintz. This is an upgrade if he is healthy.

Reeves replaces Grady.

Livingston at the 4 spot could be the x-factor. We got next to nothing shooting the 3 from that spot last year.

To me it’s all about how Cal uses the shooters. That’s what I am waiting to see.
 

jessieshorts8

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Not so sure.

Wallace replaces Washington.

Fredrick replaces Mintz. This is an upgrade if he is healthy.

Reeves replaces Grady.

Livingston at the 4 spot could be the x-factor. We got next to nothing shooting the 3 from that spot last year.

To me it’s all about how Cal uses the shooters. That’s what I am waiting to see.
CJ has been injured every single season.Good luck with that hope.And you know Cal will stick Livingston at the 3.
 
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Catfan2226

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There is still alot of quality in the portal.We only need a few additions.Id prefer a slash forward that can hit the 3..Ted Allen of New Mexico State,Matt Mayer of Baylor,Pete Nance of North western fit the bill.
Prefer an additional shooting guard,Isiah Mosley of Missouri St,AJ green of Northern Iowa,Umoja Gibson of Oklahoma and Courtney Ramey of Texas are there.
How about a backup center...Javarion Sharp of WKU,KJ William's of Murray St...
Point guards are bountiful..Tyrese Hunter of Iowa St,Kevin McCullar of Texas Tech,Antoine Davis of Detroit Mercy,Malachi Smith of Chattanooga,Kyle Lofton of St Bonaventure,Grant Sherfield of Nevada are available..
And dont forget Pat Baldwin and Kenneth Lofton are entered in the draft but could very well end up at another school as well.
 

bucsrule8872

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There is still alot of quality in the portal.We only need a few additions.Id prefer a slash forward that can hit the 3..Ted Allen of New Mexico State,Matt Mayer of Baylor,Pete Nance of North western fit the bill.
Prefer an additional shooting guard,Isiah Mosley of Missouri St,AJ green of Northern Iowa,Umoja Gibson of Oklahoma and Courtney Ramey of Texas are there.
How about a backup center...Javarion Sharp of WKU,KJ William's of Murray St...
Point guards are bountiful..Tyrese Hunter of Iowa St,Kevin McCullar of Texas Tech,Antoine Davis of Detroit Mercy,Malachi Smith of Chattanooga,Kyle Lofton of St Bonaventure,Grant Sherfield of Nevada are available..
And dont forget Pat Baldwin and Kenneth Lofton are entered in the draft but could very well end up at another school as well.
Those guys you mentioned aren’t coming here to be backups. They all pretty much want a starting gig.
 

Catman100

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I just want Cal to play the shooters he has already. What good does it do to add another shooter, if he doesn’t get to play?
The only SHOOTER from last years team was Grady. Is Fredrick this years version? Who else is a Grady type shooter?
 

KYFOSSIL

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Jan 13, 2005
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As proven last season he can't do everything by himself.
He’s not by himself. He’s just number four number fifth rank recruit coming in got Livingston common reasons very solid if CJ is healthy to be great addition wheeler can run the team just fine and there’s several role players. Is this team Jugrnaut no I don’t think so but I think that would be very competitive and in the mix
 

JC CATS

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So who is available that we could add, either sign & re-classify, OR transfer portal. In particular, what portal players, some of whom declared for the draft but will pull out, have not chosen another school and we know we have contacted or we (fans think) should contact.

Prospects:
Miller
Theiro
Dillingham
Wagner (longshot would reclassify)

Portal:
Mosley (Missouri St)
Hunter (Iowa St)
M.Smith (Chattanooga)
Mayer (Baylor)
A.Davis (Detroit-Mercy)
T.Allen (NM St)
Green (N. Iowa)
Ramey (Texas)
Lofton (La Tech)
Baldwin (Milw-Wisc)

Others?
KSR caller said he had scoop if Patric Baldwin didn't go to NBA, he would come to UK
 
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JC CATS

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If our roster is good then one of two things is about to happen. We are either going to suck and it will be the last of Cal at UK. Or Cal is about to pull his best coaching performance ever and prove he belongs here longer.
or somewhere in the middle :)
 

Catfan2226

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I’m sold, brother. Now convince those players to come here and compete.
I know,I know....I just want us to put the best we can on the roster and compete for the whole thing.I know we may not win it but I just want to be in the hunt and not see a season ruined due to injuries.It shouldnt be hard to fill a roster here at UK.
 

G-PIP

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Give me Aduo Thiero from freshman class and Brandin Podziemsky from the portal and I'm satisfied going into next season. I think both those guys can play some next season and could be a good for 2023-24 season.
 

Tim Higgins

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Those guys you mentioned aren’t coming here to be backups. They all pretty much want a starting gig.
Baldwin or Allen would start here immediately. Same with Davis. Are you proposing we start CJ Frederick over any of those 3? Those 3 are more talented and have shown to be better basketball players up to this point. Not knocking CJ but just stating facts
 

bbnkat02

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Baldwin or Allen would start here immediately. Same with Davis. Are you proposing we start CJ Frederick over any of those 3? Those 3 are more talented and have shown to be better basketball players up to this point. Not knocking CJ but just stating facts
Exactly. CJ is a sniper. That’s what we brought him in for. Those other three players can shoot and do other things as well.
 
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Anon1679859502

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I’m sold, brother. Now convince those players to come here and compete.
It’s that sense of entitlement some UK fans have that think a superstar will come to UK to be sixth seventh or eighth man off the bench. Different era of basketballi would say yes but not nowadays, players want to play to get to the next phase of their journey
 
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ukmelanie

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It’s that sense of entitlement some UK fans have that think a superstar will come to UK to be sixth seventh or eighth man off the bench. Different era of basketballi would say yes but not nowadays, players want to play to get to the next phase of their journey
I don't think anyone believes a superstar player is coming but Cal could at least fill out the roster with some decent players.Other teams seem to do that.