Pat Fitzgerald fired

[TampaBaySkers]

Was way worse in the B12. Way worse. How does anyone over 30 forget that?

I know right.. remember when ksu was raping children in showers. Or who could forget how Oklahoma state made black players run around with trash cans on their heads. It felt like just yesterday that Texas made their players do sexual acts with each other.

 

[king_kong_]

You support them every time you turn on the TV to watch B1G football. Guaranteed you watched Ohio St v Mich, Ohio St. v Georgia and Mich v TCU. Get off your high horse, no one condones these actions. Everyone can separate these issues from just wanting to sit on a Friday/Saturday and watch college football.

I only watch Nebraska on btn/fox

All non-Nebraska FBS college football I consume is played by the actual football conferences (big12, SEC, ACC). I also watch the non-P5 leagues and FCS.

Doesn’t seem I’m missing much. This league’s teams cannot compete nationally and are boring af

 

[Headcard]

Big

What was worse? An honest question. Big 12 treatment towards Nebraska or scandals in the conference? I'm over 30 and would like to know what angle you are talking about.

+1

 

[Headcard]

Yeah, I remember the B12 screw jobs. You should, too!

I remember one lame duck year when we got hosed at aTm, that sucked.

Every single year is like that now, but worse, and we all just smile and take it because the University is getting some research money.

 

[RBigredMax]

I only watch Nebraska on btn/fox

All non-Nebraska FBS college football I consume is played by the actual football conferences (big12, SEC, ACC). I also watch the non-P5 leagues and FCS.

Doesn’t seem I’m missing much. This league’s teams cannot compete nationally and are boring af

I’ll take you at your word - but am greatly surprised with all the football you watch you didn’t not watch any of the listed games I mentioned. Good on you.

 

[Redscarlet]

I’ll take you at your word - but am greatly surprised with all the football you watch you didn’t not watch any of the listed games I mentioned. Good on you.

Liar Liar pants on fire would have been a better response.

 

[MuskyHawk16]

What’s worse, 52 rapes by Baylor football players under Briles or gay hazing

 

[Headcard]

 

[RBigredMax]

What’s worse, 52 rapes by Baylor football players under Briles or gay hazing

Patrick Dennehy murder may also be a scandal worth mentioning.

NOT CONDONING B1G examples by mentioning this.

 

[HBK4life_rivals100467]

 

[Walleye 1]

What’s worse, 52 rapes by Baylor football players under Briles or gay hazing

Conveniently you left out out Penn State pedophilia or Michigan state pedophilia just for starters. But hey make your case to defend the BIG

 

[RBigredMax]

Conveniently you left out out Penn State pedophilia or Michigan state pedophilia just for starters. But hey make your case to defend the BIG

Those have been mentioned

 

[Walleye 1]

Those have been mentioned

Not in the post I responded in which the poster mentioned Baylor rapes and gay hazing. Nothing about what you said was mentioned. Maybe reread ...

 

[RBigredMax]

I only watch Nebraska on btn/fox

All non-Nebraska FBS college football I consume is played by the actual football conferences (big12, SEC, ACC). I also watch the non-P5 leagues and FCS.

Doesn’t seem I’m missing much. This league’s teams cannot compete nationally and are boring af

odd that you posted in the O-State/Mich game thread? Same during the Mich/TCU game? So you are you holding to your guns that you didn’t watch all the games I listed?

It’s weird that when you asked if I ever posted on the Iowa board I gave you a truthful answer. When asked if you watched any of the other B1G games you denied it due to you absolute hatred of the conference but then later find out that you did. Just own it dude.

 

[whatwouldlawrencephillipsdo]

the article on espn makes the accuser seem to lack credibility + proof

 

[king_kong_]

I’ll take you at your word - but am greatly surprised with all the football you watch you didn’t not watch any of the listed games I mentioned. Good on you.

I am traveling during the mich-ohio st game every year

and yes, I watched the CFP & lamented the entire time the undeserving B1G was participating and laughed & mocked its inevitable failure

 

[king_kong_]

Conveniently you left out out Penn State pedophilia or Michigan state pedophilia just for starters. But hey make your case to defend the BIG

don't forget michigan & ohio st & minnesota serial rapes numbering well into the 100s

 

[moralvictories]

I would argue it was "A" decision, but not the best one. Nebraska could have sought entrance into the SEC. I don't think they even tried.

I would rather not see anything associated with my State be involved with any organization with that sweeps under the rug pedophiles, sexual criminals, and perverts. These fools talking about kicking Nebraska out due to wanting to play football and yet not a word about all this sicko crap at the other University's signals to me that they think they are WAY above anything.

These overly self-important narcissists who have a problem looking in the mirror and not seeing the monster, have voted Nebraska, a conference member, out of the AAU.

Associates with the conference have talked about kicking Nebraska out of the conference publicly in the media.

I think Nebraska overpaid to get into the big ten in order to rub shoulders with the man-boy-love party members.

It's a damn shame. Nebraska really is too good for this conference if you ask me and I don't think that is an over exaggeration in the slightest.

I think that the reason Nebraska didn't try to get into the SEC was due to the fact that, at the time, the SEC had a policy of only admitting Universities in states bordering existing SEC states. Nebraska didn't share any borders with any SEC states at the time.

 

[Husker Todd_rivals48744]

Not a big 10 lover like you like to label people, I just don’t $&it on them every chance I get…

Nebraska administration made the right move 12 years ago to enter this conference..

Kong has never seen a dead horse that he wouldn’t beat, until he collapsed from exhaustion.

 

[Man Woman & Child]

Maybe it’s the change in conferences. Or maybe it’s the terrible coaching. If we continue to circle the drain under Rhule, then the proof is in the pudding.

12 years hasn't been enough proof for you? I'm not saying we can't dig out of it. I actually think Rhule will. But a horrible decision with 12 years of proof in the pudding is enough for me to recognize it for what it was...a horrible decision.

 

[Man Woman & Child]

Our misfortune was all self inflicted by hiring Eichorst as AD not knowing how to hire a head coach and SF failing when most of us thought he was the home run hire and he turned out the totally opposite..

You didn't answer the question. You just listed other things we've sucked at. I'm simply asking for you, or anyone, to tell me why moving to the B1G was a good decision. I'll wait...and I'll keep waiting.

 

[big red23]

Hazing happens EVERYWHERE. Hazing is part of sports IMO. Hell in high school freshman got swirlies, stink bombs in lockers etc... It builds comradery if it is happening to everyone. If it is directed a one or two kids then I get it, but that is not "Hazing" that is bullying. I just don't get how Hazing is so bad, as if it is part of the culture?

I guess where I am going with this is how is it a "Fireable" offense?

 

[Man Woman & Child]

Won’t disagree totally with ya, but the B1G showed the FIRST interest and the SEC wasn’t even thinking about expanding till the B1G did…

This may be true, but if anything, that's another indictor that it was a bad decision. Because the SEC did expand. As I said earlier, TO blinked first and lost. You're just helping prove my point.

 

[ShortSideOption]

Hazing happens EVERYWHERE. Hazing is part of sports IMO. Hell in high school freshman got swirlies, stink bombs in lockers etc... It builds comradery if it is happening to everyone. If it is directed a one or two kids then I get it, but that is not "Hazing" that is bullying. I just don't get how Hazing is so bad, as if it is part of the culture?

I guess where I am going with this is how is it a "Fireable" offense?

Are you saying that NW's hazing was just good ole locker room hijinks to facilitate team building?

The 1960's era hazing you described isn't a fireable offense. The sexual deviance going on at NW is.

 

[Man Woman & Child]

Yeah, I remember the B12 screw jobs. You should, too!

Was way worse in the B12. Way worse. How does anyone over 30 forget that?

I remember a little bit of screw jobs, but nothing close to what we've received in the B1G. I also remember winning 70% of our games vs. 51%. I also remember 2 conference championships and 9 division championships vs. 1 division championship.

 

[Man Woman & Child]

Sucking and being in the better conference are not related. We sucked all on our own. Our success in the B1G has been set up from the very beginning. We were supposed to be the powerhouse of a weak West.

Ehhhh! Sorry Nebraska. Tell 'em what he's going home with, Johnny! I'll be very happy, Bob! You've won a year's supply of Del Monte mixed vegetables! And thank you for playing B1G West football.

But seriously, it was all there for the taking. Still is. Coach Rhule is doing what should have been done since the firing of Coach Solich. Build the program. You can't just think about one star player changing everything. You have to build a foundation. Now, what does that have to do with a conference? Nothing. Our lack of success is our own undoing. Our conference affiliation has nothing to do with that.

You really believe we would have sucked this bad had we stayed in the Big 12? Honestly? If you, or anyone else really believes that, you're just lying to yourself.

 

[Man Woman & Child]

This conference sucks. They do not want us and have done everything they can to screw us over from day 1. How anyone can still think being part of this **** show was a good idea is beyond me. Yes Nebraska needs to care of if their business and get better, but we will have to be so dam good to over come the inevitable screw jobs from the B1G.

Yep, look no further than our 2025 schedule.

 

[Redscarlet]

This may be true, but if anything, that's another indictor that it was a bad decision. Because the SEC did expand. As I said earlier, TO blinked first and lost. You're just helping prove my point.

Can you prove for a fact that the SEC had any interested in grabbing Nebraska before Missouri and ATM?

 

[Man Woman & Child]

I think that the reason Nebraska didn't try to get into the SEC was due to the fact that, at the time, the SEC had a policy of only admitting Universities in states bordering existing SEC states. Nebraska didn't share any borders with any SEC states at the time.

Would have been easily fixed when they added Mizzu. So, swing and a miss on that argument.

 

[bigboxes]

You really believe we would have sucked this bad had we stayed in the Big 12? Honestly? If you, or anyone else really believes that, you're just lying to yourself.

You're just delusional. So, we'd be .900 if we'd moved to the MWC instead of the B1G with your rationale. Again, we sucked all by ourselves. The conference didn't cause this. The B1G was set up for our dominance. Blaming the conference?

 

[Ki113rSk3r69]

So when they have a recruit on campus, the players just don't mention the gay ****?

No, because this guy will get ya…

 

[TampaBaySkers]

Would have been easily fixed when they added Mizzu. So, swing and a miss on that argument.

Lol .. dude so much fallacy with this thinking. Missouri was thinking they were going to be left out in the cold. Remember most the big south was about to bounce to PAC 10, so Nebraska had to move pretty quickly. It was the right move at the time.

 

[Man Woman & Child]

Can you prove for a fact that the SEC had any interested in grabbing Nebraska before Missouri and ATM?

I don't know whether they did or not. But that's irrelevant. We blinked first and lost and we didn't need to. We could have waited it out and found a better landing spot. Or we could have waited it out and stayed where we were. Both would have been better decisions.

It's like we went to the bar with a 7 and left at the start of the night with a 5. The lights weren't coming on. They weren't kicking people out. We weren't sitting there at the end of the night looking at having to go home alone with our dick in our hand. We didn't even stick around to try to find a 9. And we left the 7 we had to get taken home by some other dude.

 

[Man Woman & Child]

You're just delusional. So, we'd be .900 if we'd moved to the MWC instead of the B1G with your rationale. Again, we sucked all by ourselves. The conference didn't cause this. The B1G was set up for our dominance. Blaming the conference?

Comparing the MWC to the B1G and Big 12 is what's delusional. Of course we'd have better results if we were playing weaker opponents. Moving to the B1G wasn't that. We didn't move up in competition. You make that point for me.

I don't think we would have sucked this bad had we stayed in the Big 12. But you're right, it's somewhat subjective. But that aside, I ask you and anyone else, what good has come from us joining the B1G? I'm still just waiting for anyone to answer that question.

I can point to the fact that we've sucked ever since. I can point to the fact that we no longer have a real rivalry with anyone. I can point to the fact that everyone else who left have sucked ever since. I can point to the fact that the other blue bloods who stayed put have been just fine both financially and in terms of on-field success.

I can point to a lot of facts as to why it was a bad decision. All I've seen from anyone saying it was a good decision are a bunch of what ifs and hypotheticals that never played out.

 

[bob5150]

Big

What was worse? An honest question. Big 12 treatment towards Nebraska or scandals in the conference? I'm over 30 and would like to know what angle you are talking about.

So if Michigan and OSU control the B1G, Texas certainly controlled the B12. Everything on and off the field was catered to Texas. Officiating was horrid. Didn't help that our coach at the time was calling refs c**ksuckers on the field, but the B12 '09 championship. Texas A+M game. Biggest screw jobs since '93 NC.
In the B1G, we have had some missed calls, but the quality of our play has also diminished further. Thus, I don't feel like officiating has wrecked entire games. Maybe we aren't wanted from a football standpoint because we refuse to stay quiet and fall in line, but they sure love the money that our brand produces despite a poor product for the last 10 years.
The totally sickening events at PSU and now this event at NW is embarrassing. The conference's overall non-interference is weak, when our coach gets "suspended" for violations of offseason workouts and they are hands-off with issues at other schools.However, this crap that goes on at other schools is not a reflection on NU.
Our position in the B1G is not perfect, but it is better than the B12. Poor product on the field magnifies the inconveniences of being Nebraska in the B1G.

 

[Man Woman & Child]

Lol .. dude so much fallacy with this thinking. Missouri was thinking they were going to be left out in the cold. Remember most the big south was about to bounce to PAC 10, so Nebraska had to move pretty quickly. It was the right move at the time.

The fallacy is thinking something was going to happen that didn’t happen. We lost the game of chicken. Plain and simple. Had the Big 12 actually dissolved, then I’d buy that argument and say it was a good decision because we didn’t have any other choice. But we did. And we lost.

 

[Huskers123456]

In your beloved B1G, attempting to play football while the cold is going around is much worse than employing serial rapists for decades

Again, a very important reminder: there are posters here who believe, loudly and proudly, that these demented sickos are the people our Nebraska values are most closely align with

I know you have some kind of mental illness so I'm trying to give you a pass. So let me try and make it clear:

1. NU isn't leaving the Big 10 in the foreseeable future.

2. You and I do not have any control over what conference NU is in. So why constantly complain about it? Every day

3. NU has proven over the years that we are not willing to stoop to an OU level of cheating, let alone an SEC level of cheating in order to compete. We don't create fake jobs for parents. Or give recruits bags of money on recruiting trips.

4. NU doesn't control what other schools do. And TO and Pearlman didn't know NW was going to have a hazing scandal or MSU a sex abuse scandal, etc. Just like TO didn't know Baylor would have all the issues they had. I can't remember his name but I seem to recall Florida basically had a drug dealing hitman at TE. Should TO have factored that in when choosing conferences? Didn't LSU have some kind of rape scandal?

I'll eagerly await your response where you claim I support Big 10 rapists and ask if I have seen any fights with Iowa fans.

 

[Redscarlet]

Would have been easily fixed when they added Mizzu. So, swing and a miss on that argument.

Not necessarily.. Mizzou went to the SEC because they thought the B1G was taking them and all of a sudden with the help of Barry Alvarez discussing with Jim Delany TO about joining they asked Nebraska instead and Mizzou seen what was going on with texas wanting to fly the coup and OU was joined at the hip with them..
Evidence of that 13 years later the both get invited after the B1G grabbed USC and UCLA..

Moralvictories made a good point about the SEC preferred boarder states..

 

[Man Woman & Child]

Didn't help that our coach at the time was calling refs c**ksuckers on the field

This made me LOL. Bo Pelini was never a good look for Nebraska.

 

[Redmich]

The big 12 has lost members who have left for P5 conferences and had to replace them with mid majors

There isn’t a single B12 member who if offered membership to the BIG or SEC wouldn’t leave in a second - many have requested acceptance and been turned down

The big12 exists because the BIG and SEC at present don’t want any of their universities