Our fanbase/atmosphere...

dicemen99

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Isn't Diceman a Penn State fan?
I'm an RU grad who grew up a PSU fan. I root for RU, but if I had to pick one it would be PSU all day. Function of the last 45 years I guess. I've stated that many times here.

I think I'm pretty fair and nonbiased here but not going to hold my tongue about what's wrong with RU just because I'm a PSU fan also. I was vehemently anti-Flood, loved Schiano, cautious about Ash so far as its too early to tell and there has been both good and bad.

If you just want to converse with the PSU lynch mob here feel free to block me. I don't post all that much and what I do isnt trolling aimed at you guys so you won't miss much.
 
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dicemen99

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MSU is a respected program who has been in the playoffs. If we have a better atmosphere then them then I say that's a pretty good thing. I've been to Michigan. Was underwhelmed. I've been to Maryland, it stunk. I've been to PSU which was very impressive.

What I don't get is why we are losing recruits to programs like UNC, NC State, BC etc. These programs don't have much at all over us besides them not being in NJ.
Fair enough. You weren't specific in your post so I thought this was in reference to the kids that are leaving Jersey for Michigan, PSU, etc.

As far as the 3 you mentioned, don't think game atmosphere has anything to do with it. BC is most likely because the kids are getting a parochial education. UNC and NC State also have some pulls that have nothing to do with atmosphere- beautiful campus, coeds, weather, top basketball programs, etc.
 

dicemen99

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My point was Arkansas and Michigan fans said our stadium was very loud.
My feelings on the RU atmosphere:

Its 1000 percent better than my first time in the stadium (going on 30 years ago) but it is still too opponent or situation related. Which makes it like most every mid level place.

When you have atmosphere that makes people who are not RU fans, but college football fans, want to take advantage of the opportunity to see a game regardless of opponent - like Va Tech for a non cfb royalty example- then you have great atmosphere.
 
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sct1111

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My feelings on the RU atmosphere:

Its 1000 percent better than my first time in the stadium (going on 30 years ago) but it is still too opponent or situation related. Which makes it like most every mid level place.

When you have atmosphere that makes people who are not RU fans, but college football fans, want to take advantage of the opportunity to see a game regardless of opponent - like Va Tech for a non cfb royalty example- then you have great atmosphere.
Va Tech has had that atmosphere for decades. We've had it for a decade.
 

herdof3

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Even with how empty the stadium was it was surprisingly loud on 3rd downs in the first half
 

brookdale-soda

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I don't want to be a wet blanket, but we also have to look at a game like yesterday in its entirety ...... yes, the crowd was supportive, loud, made noise on third downs, etc....but as the game wore on the majority of the fans, students were gone.....all I heard for the most part, were a few MSU chants, at least in the section I was sitting.

if a recruit sat through the full game, he saw our crowd spirit early on, but all that
dissolving away in despair....... he gets both views of the program..... if the recruit were to visit another program where a game is close, fan support is consistent, possibly he leaves with a better feeling there....

but if we are going to tout our atmosphere, we have to at least consider how it appears at the end.
Every stadium is dead when the team is blown out. Maybe the only exception.is nebraska.
 

sct1111

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Yes. Been to UCONN, Syracuse, RU, Temple, PSU, WVU, Va Tech, tOSU, MSU, Michigan, ND, Florida and USC (for a Rose Bowl).
Forgot to mention I've been to UConn, Syracuse and Temple as well. There's a reason I forgot. All of them stink and can't hold our jockstrap.
 

sct1111

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I wish the stadium PA would let the crowd be loud without blasting Mettalica, an air raid siren, and a faux heartbeat at the same time.
Disagree the Metallica and air guitar is unique and very cool and gets the crowd crazy and loud.
 

tico brown

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Disagree the Metallica and air guitar is unique and very cool and gets the crowd crazy and loud.
Disagree. Unlike other stadiums with their third down shticks, Rutgers fans are too busy doing the stupid air guitar thing to be loud. After the music stops playing, then the crowd start a going off when they could've been doing that from the beginning.

Its a moot point when you have to fight three loud sound effects going on at the same time. Agree to disagree tho.
 
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bigbirdru

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My feelings on the RU atmosphere:

Its 1000 percent better than my first time in the stadium (going on 30 years ago) but it is still too opponent or situation related. Which makes it like most every mid level place.

When you have atmosphere that makes people who are not RU fans, but college football fans, want to take advantage of the opportunity to see a game regardless of opponent - like Va Tech for a non cfb royalty example- then you have great atmosphere.
I think most would agree the team being bad has killed the stadium experience. No one would argue Rutgers-Illinois is some life altering experience.

However judging from places I've visited (some of the ones you mentioned in your response), comments from visiting fans and comments from visiting players (including one of your Nits) at it's best the atmosphere is no joke. The problem is the team has slid enough that the atmosphere isn't there most of the time.
 

wheezer

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Every stadium is dead when the team is blown out. Maybe the only exception.is nebraska.
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understood.... my point is, that if a recruit goes to one of our blowout games, he gets to see both the good and the bad, providing he
stays till the end of the game..... some teams get through seasons without blowout losses which might make the recruit enjoy the recruitment more upon visiting there

this week our potential recruits saw a game with about six first downs when it was all over, even though we provided a little excitement early on.... we were not impressive to say the least and the
atmosphere was not there game long
 

sct1111

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Disagree. Unlike other stadiums with their third down shticks, Rutgers fans are too busy doing the stupid air guitar thing to be loud. After the music stops playing, then the crowd start a going off when they could've been doing that from the beginning.

Its a moot point when you have to fight three loud sound effects going on at the same time. Agree to disagree tho.
After the air guitar part ends when the ref sets the ball, then the crowd screams. The timing is fine. By the time the qb hikes it, the crowd is screaming their heads off. It resulted in a handful of false starts.
 
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RUJMM78

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... is pretty good according to MSU players and fans.


What exactly is preventing high quality recruits from wanting to come here. It's not the fanbase or atmosphere, or facilities.
Losing seasons has always been the main reason.
 

Scoutnmayo

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Playing Metallica is fine, but the timing is way off. They need to stop it a lot earlier so the crowd can get loud. It was a mess on Saturday. In general, the music has been very sloppy this whole year.
Agreeing the music has been way off this year. DJ playing all the way up to the snap, which is ridiculous. Air guitar great, but the siren and the heartbeat is way over the top.