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S.W.A.I.N

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Or they could simply convince the vast, vast majority of humanity, gullible as it is, that they were the true gods, worthy of worship and sacrifice and obedience. We would be easy pickings in so many ways.

But I don't worry about these sorts of things, as it is highly probable that we exist in a simulation, or stack of simulations, in any case.
I for one welcome our new overlords.
 

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Or they could simply convince the vast, vast majority of humanity, gullible as it is, that they were the true gods, worthy of worship and sacrifice and obedience. We would be easy pickings in so many ways.

But I don't worry about these sorts of things, as it is highly probable that we exist in a simulation, or stack of simulations, in any case.
Take the blue pill.
 
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NewJerseyGuy

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Or they could simply convince the vast, vast majority of humanity, gullible as it is, that they were the true gods, worthy of worship and sacrifice and obedience. We would be easy pickings in so many ways.

And several of the more woke posters in this thread will be the first in line to offer up their children for the sacrifice.
 
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And several of the more woke posters in this thread will be the first in line to offer up their children for the sacrifice.
Or maybe were no better than some ant hill you ignore and are not remotely close to being given a second glance!
 

NewJerseyGuy

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Like Abraham?

No. Not like Abraham. He was willing to sacrifice his son for the real God. Which he wound up not having to do because God provided the sacrifice instead. A picture of God later sending His only Son, Jesus Christ, to die for the salvation of sinners.

Not at all like the woke folks, who sacrifice their babies in their wombs as sacrifices to their idols and false gods (convenience, careers, etc.).
 

S.W.A.I.N

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No. Not like Abraham. He was willing to sacrifice his son for the real God. Which he wound up not having to do because God provided the sacrifice instead. A picture of God later sending His only Son, Jesus Christ, to die for the salvation of sinners.

Not at all like the woke folks, who sacrifice their babies in their wombs as sacrifices to their idols and false gods (convenience, careers, etc.).
Demonic aliens. Lol.
 

RU4Real

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Demonic aliens. Lol.

 
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NewJerseyGuy

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Matter of opinion.

Let me rephrase.

To what Christian denomination do you regularly write a check?

Am not a member of any denomination. I belong to a local church, which calls itself a Baptist church — it’s unaffiliated.

I consider myself a Reformed Baptist, but I do not believe everyone in my church considers themselves reformed. Doesn’t really matter — we agree on the main things.
 

RU4Real

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Am not a member of any denomination. I belong to a local church, which calls itself a Baptist church — it’s unaffiliated.

I consider myself a Reformed Baptist, but I do not believe everyone in my church considers themselves reformed. Doesn’t really matter — we agree on the main things.

"Unaffiliated" Baptist?

Are there snakes? I've seen that.
 

NewJerseyGuy

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"Unaffiliated" Baptist?

Are there snakes? I've seen that.

Silly.

You believe every independent Bible- believing church practices snake-handling?

I don’t think you really believe that, but sure makes for a quick laugh, I guess.

No, never belonged to a snake handling church, and there are very few of those in existence.

Other than comedy, unclear why you would focus on the outliers and try to use them as examples of Christianity. Eg, you will ask me next about the 40-member (mostly related to one family), extremist Westboro Baptists next. Am I right?
 

RU4Real

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Silly.

You believe every independent Bible- believing church practices snake-handling?

I don’t think you really believe that, but sure makes for a quick laugh, I guess.

No, never belonged to a snake handling church, and there are very few of those in existence.

Other than comedy, unclear why you would focus on the outliers and try to use them as examples of Christianity. Eg, you will ask me next about the 40-member (mostly related to one family), extremist Westboro Baptist’s next. Am I right?

Did I say "every"?

No, I did not.

I simply asked.
 

NewJerseyGuy

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Did I say "every"?

No, I did not.

I simply asked.

Seems like your quick question about snake handlers and independent churches implied you believe “many” (not every) one of those use snakes in their liturgy.

My B
 

RUInsanityToo

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Silly.

You believe every independent Bible- believing church practices snake-handling?

I don’t think you really believe that, but sure makes for a quick laugh, I guess.

No, never belonged to a snake handling church, and there are very few of those in existence.

Other than comedy, unclear why you would focus on the outliers and try to use them as examples of Christianity. Eg, you will ask me next about the 40-member (mostly related to one family), extremist Westboro Baptists next. Am I right?


You seem upset / wound up about this. Not sure, but maybe you can shed some light if the bible tells us that it's not ok to have a sense of humor about oneself?
 

NewJerseyGuy

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You seem upset / wound up about this. Not sure, but maybe you can shed some light if the bible tells us that it's not ok to have a sense of humor about oneself?

And please forgive me if I have mistaken some of the posts directed at me as unflattering and derisive.

A lot of love in this thread.

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No. Not like Abraham. He was willing to sacrifice his son for the real God. Which he wound up not having to do because God provided the sacrifice instead. A picture of God later sending His only Son, Jesus Christ, to die for the salvation of sinners.

Not at all like the woke folks, who sacrifice their babies in their wombs as sacrifices to their idols and false gods (convenience, careers, etc.).
A human sacrifice for the salvation of man. Really? So "god-like". Couldn't the creator of the universe, inventor of the laws of nature, a being all powerful and all knowing come up with something better than than torture and murder = salvation? I mean, I'm a mere mortal, and I could come up with a dozen ideas better than that. Sounds like a story made up by savage, ignorant, tribal peasants. Or, your god is a total dickhead. Either way, no thanks.
 

NewJerseyGuy

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A human sacrifice for the salvation of man. Really? So "god-like". Couldn't the creator of the universe, inventor of the laws of nature, a being all powerful and all knowing come up with something better than than torture and murder = salvation? I mean, I'm a mere mortal, and I could come up with a dozen ideas better than that. Sounds like a story made up by savage, ignorant, tribal peasants. Or, your god is a total dickhead. Either way, no thanks.

“You seem upset / wound up about this.”
 

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That's because I'm angry at God and want to sin. Ha! Beat you to it
Actually no, I'm fascinated how someone can believe something so transparently made up.
I guess you’ll find out one way or another, until that time live a good life be safe and may you find what your looking for.
 

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No. Not like Abraham. He was willing to sacrifice his son for the real God. Which he wound up not having to do because God provided the sacrifice instead. A picture of God later sending His only Son, Jesus Christ, to die for the salvation of sinners.
Can you elaborate on this for me? Eight years of CCD and all I remember is "Jesus died for our sins" being pounded into our heads with no explanation of what that actually means. Why was his death "for our sins" and how different would we be if he didn't die for our sins? Does this mean that nobody that died before Jesus came to Earth was allowed into Heaven? If so, why did God wait so long before sending him here? Did Jesus live in Heaven with God before being sent to Earth, and assuming he went back to Heaven after he died, it doesn't seem like it was much of a sacrifice.
 
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I guess you’ll find out one way or another, until that time live a good life be safe and may you find what your looking for.
No, I probably won't find out, and that's fine. I prefer the harsh truth rather than a reassuring fantasy. In the meantime, yes, I agree about living a good life. I'm thankful for the life I have, live in a way that creates happiness for the ones I love, and don't selfishly wish for another life.
 
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NewJerseyGuy

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Can you elaborate on this for me? Eight years of CCD and all I remember is "Jesus died for our sins" being pounded into our heads with no explanation of what that actually means. Why was his death "for our sins" and how different would we be if he didn't die for our sins? Does this mean that nobody that died before Jesus came to Earth was allowed into Heaven? If so, why did God wait so long before sending him here? Did Jesus live in Heaven with God before being sent to Earth, and assuming he went back to Heaven after he died, it doesn't seem like it was much of a sacrifice.

CCD — Central City Dump? That’s what we used to call it. Spent a lot of time there growing up! :)

Hard to address all of your questions and do them justice typing with my thumbs on the phone. Here is the answer to your basic question about the meaning of “Jesus died for our sins.” This guy, Paul Washer, is a great teacher — he gets it. This is what I believe:
 

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If we are an alien experiment I wonder if they got an F?
 

RU Cheese

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Yeah, it made no sense to me either. To the point where if it wasn't a released video I would've assumed it's bogus.

Not smart enough to interpret from the screens what speed they were traveling or altitude, but could they be civilian or military drones?
Great post. #NailedIt
 

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could those things be built into the software behind the displays the pilots use? Any of these naked eye accounts?