OT: NY Mets 2025 Season Thread

nutfromSEC117

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Doctor Worm

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I still think they should be the Chiefs.

Have a Mets patch like they do in the AHL and ECHL. But keep the local and traditional name
I think you may get your wish soon. The Syracuse team used to be owned by the Mets, and was given the Mets name. However, last year Cohen sold the team (while maintaining the affiliation agreement) to an independent consortium. Would not be surprised if the name is changed next year. Unless the sale agreement includes a contractual term that the Mets name is to be retained.
 

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I think you may get your wish soon. The Syracuse team used to be owned by the Mets, and was given the Mets name. However, last year Cohen sold the team (while maintaining the affiliation agreement) to an independent consortium. Would not be surprised if the name is changed next year. Unless the sale agreement includes a contractual term that the Mets name is to be retained.
Think that’s why the Cyclones are sporting a new look too.

As I believe he owns them as well.
 

BigEastPhil

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Tweeted by someone named Brooks Gate they the Mets have lost their 34th game of the year 15 years In a row.

Today is Game 34. Lol.
 

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I’m just enjoying this team. Every time we have a game that brings us down, we follow it up with something good.
And seeing Nimmo start to get hot, Soto on his way to being Soto, Lindor/Alonso playing at MVP levels, Vientos starting to pick it up. Acuna staying hot and top it off with McNeil and Alvarez hitting.
If pitching holds up- this is just fun.
 

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I’m just enjoying this team. Every time we have a game that brings us down, we follow it up with something good.
And seeing Nimmo start to get hot, Soto on his way to being Soto, Lindor/Alonso playing at MVP levels, Vientos starting to pick it up. Acuna staying hot and top it off with McNeil and Alvarez hitting.
If pitching holds up- this is just fun.
Vientos is starting to pick it up? I must be watching different at-bats. I guess in between all of the strikeouts on pitches way out of the strike zone he did hit a 3 run homer off Amed Rosario.
 

Doctor Worm

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Danny Young to undergo TJ surgery.

Today's roster machinations. Tidwell brought up, and will be immediately optioned back to Syracuse after game 1. Dedniel Nunez will replace Tidwell. He will be eligible for game 2 only, and then remain on the roster. Austin Warren has been optioned to Syracuse, but then immediately recalled for today only as 27th man.
 

Doctor Worm

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Feels like we lost the PCA trade 😥
Wanna feel worse? (I can be sadistic at times.) Back in July of 2021, when the first place Mets inquired to the Cubs about Javier Baez, PCA was not the guy the Cubs wanted in return. The guy they wanted was Matt Allan. Mets basically said no, he is untouchable. Cubs then asked for PCA. Mets again said no. Cubs offered to sweeten the pot and add Trevor Williams. Mets then said yes.

That is how the sausage was made. The sausage tastes terrible.

A couple of other thoughts:

1) Both Allan and Crow-Armstrong were injured at the time. Crow-Armstrong's shoulder injury was considered a possible long term concern.

2) Javier Baez actually held up his end of the trade quite well. His Met OPS was .886.
 

Zak57

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Wanna feel worse? (I can be sadistic at times.) Back in July of 2021, when the first place Mets inquired to the Cubs about Javier Baez, PCA was not the guy the Cubs wanted in return. The guy they wanted was Matt Allan. Mets basically said no, he is untouchable. Cubs then asked for PCA. Mets again said no. Cubs offered to sweeten the pot and add Trevor Williams. Mets then said yes.

That is how the sausage was made. The sausage tastes terrible.

A couple of other thoughts:

1) Both Allan and Crow-Armstrong were injured at the time. Crow-Armstrong's shoulder injury was considered a possible long term concern.

2) Javier Baez actually held up his end of the trade quite well. His Met OPS was .886.
Ok Zack Scott.

The trade was awful at the time and looks worse with history.
 
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Doctor Worm

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Tough loss today. Game turned on the 3-2 pitch to Alonso. Looked to be slightly off the plate, but too close to take. That said, I look forward to the day when "too close to take" is no longer a thing. It's either a strike or it isn't.

My macro-level takeaway is that when you are relying on a guy to be your ace, and that guy can't pitch on the same rotation protocol adhered to by just about every other starting pitcher in MLB, it will occasionally bite you in the ***. Today was one of those days.
 

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Tough loss today. Game turned on the 3-2 pitch to Alonso. Looked to be slightly off the plate, but too close to take. That said, I look forward to the day when "too close to take" is no longer a thing. It's either a strike or it isn't.

My macro-level takeaway is that when you are relying on a guy to be your ace, and that guy can't pitch on the same rotation protocol adhered to by just about every other starting pitcher in MLB, it will occasionally bite you in the ***. Today was one of those days.
And maybe Tidwell wasn’t just ready yet as well.
 
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Ok Zack Scott.

The trade was awful at the time and looks worse with history.
The PCA trade was not awful at the time. And while I am not Zack Scott, I will die on that hill.

On July 30, 2021, the Mets led the NL East by four games. Their goal was to win the World Series. They thought Javier Baez could help them do it. And he did hold up his end of the bargain. Not his fault the rest of the team tanked with a 22-41 record down the stretch.

In 2021 Pete Crow-Armstrong was a good but not great prospect, with a MLB Pipeline target score of 50. Meaning, he was projected to develop into an average MLB starter. Great glove, good stick, below average power. At the time of the trade, he was damaged goods.

Some guys meet their projections. Some underperform, some overperform. PCA looks like he will overperform, big time. Good for him.

We Met fans can look forward to potential CFs like Jett Williams, Drew Gilbert, Carson Benge, and Nick Morabito. Perhaps one will overperform. If so, hopefully it will be the one we don't trade. Because you KNOW we're going to trade at least one of those guys. Because that's how big market teams win titles.
 

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The PCA trade was not awful at the time. And while I am not Zack Scott, I will die on that hill.

On July 30, 2021, the Mets led the NL East by four games. Their goal was to win the World Series. They thought Javier Baez could help them do it. And he did hold up his end of the bargain. Not his fault the rest of the team tanked with a 22-41 record down the stretch.

In 2021 Pete Crow-Armstrong was a good but not great prospect, with a MLB Pipeline target score of 50. Meaning, he was projected to develop into an average MLB starter. Great glove, good stick, below average power. At the time of the trade, he was damaged goods.

Some guys meet their projections. Some underperform, some overperform. PCA looks like he will overperform, big time. Good for him.

We Met fans can look forward to potential CFs like Jett Williams, Drew Gilbert, Carson Benge, and Nick Morabito. Perhaps one will overperform. If so, hopefully it will be the one we don't trade. Because you KNOW we're going to trade at least one of those guys. Because that's how big market teams win titles.
It was awful at the time and I called it. I said Zack Scott because you regurgitated what he said about the trade as well. Everyone knew deGrom was not coming back that season and trading a first round draft pick prospect was an overpay for half a season of a hitter like Baez. It also proves the point that Baez did but well and we were still no where near a playoff spot.

Trading prospects this year is a lot different. We're in a much better place and we will have to deal to get some help.
 
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RUforJERSEY

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And maybe Tidwell wasn’t just ready yet as well.
He got burned by a combination of things. A few untimely walks, the leadoff single to center that Azocar froze on and allowed to fall in front of him and Contreras on 2 occasions getting soft hits on pitchers pitches by just making contact. Did he pitch well enough? Not at all. But his bottom line would have looked a bit better with better fortune.
 

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He got burned by a combination of things. A few untimely walks, the leadoff single to center that Azocar froze on and allowed to fall in front of him and Contreras on 2 occasions getting soft hits on pitchers pitches by just making contact. Did he pitch well enough? Not at all. But his bottom line would have looked a bit better with better fortune.
Admittedly, I only looked at the box score.
 
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