OT: Gabe Kapler
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I respectfully disagree, Pete. Kerr.s rant was about 50 senators blocking HR 8 from a vote in the senate. If Kerr had read the bill, he would know that the legislation would not have prevented the sale of the guns purchased. In addition, his position two years ago was to remove armed police presence from schools. His rant was simply an emotional reaction to a tragedy that now, after the facts have come to light, was in all probability preventable had the protocols post Columbine been implemented and properly executed. To me, he was neither eloquent or effective. School shootings can and should be preventable with proper safety procedures and effective policing. That should be the debate.
Some really disgusting joke posts here. WTF is
Sorry, this is more deflection. He was right. Dealing with these horrible incidents takes a multipronged approach. Mental health, early intervention, gun control laws (yeah I said it), better school security, etc. But the answer will never be arming teachers. Geez, I wonder if some folks understand what prep goes into being a good teacher. Now everyone wants teachers to be LEO.
It should be one part of the debate. It is a big enough issue to combat it from multiple paths.
They should both issues need to be addressed
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When is someone going to take a stand on the unaddressed mental health issue in this country? Or maybe Kepler is killing two birds with one stone?
And before we hear but Chicago the cities need to combat gangs effectively
When is someone going to take a stand on the unaddressed mental health issue in this country? Or maybe Kepler is killing two birds with one stone?
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Mental health needs to be a huge factor, identifying those with the issue, effective treatment and gun control regulations that make sure they don’t get a gun
Interesting take. And it makes no sense. What exactly does gabe's virtue signalling and dinner have to do with each other. Try again.
After that book, ya'll can move to "Helmet for my Pillow"
Is it OK if someone consistently thinks that type of protest is wrong all the time? Ya know, since you're the guy laying down the law? I noticed you skipped a detail about the 1996 protest, What was that religion?
I was theatrically chatting with you … about and to him. Whoops.
Sorry for the confusion.
How does restricting the rights of law abiding gun owners help a situation where some crazy person shoots innocents?
I have never theatrically chatted with anyone I was aware of before. LOL. No worries.
I never said anything about arming teachers. YOU said he addressed it ( the issue) more directly, eloquently and effectively. What did he say other than complaining about 50 senators blocking legislation that would not have prevented this tragedy? He also gave a statement before all the facts were revealed. Please explain how his statement was eloquent or effective? I am advocating for a national debate on a multi-faceted problem; Kerr called out one party for allegedly obstructing a bill that would have prevented this tragedy. Yet he is praised for pounding the table with indignation.
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Another "Hey look at me, see how much I care" moment.
In the past two years gun violence in SF has increased by about 75% but I don't recall hearing him say anything about that. Only takes advantage of a horrific massacre like this to break out with SJW cred. Would respect him more if he just stayed in the clubhouse during the anthem and didn't feel the need to announce it.
In the past two years gun violence in SF has increased by about 75% but I don't recall hearing him say anything about that. Only takes advantage of a horrific massacre like this to break out with SJW cred. Would respect him more if he just stayed in the clubhouse during the anthem and didn't feel the need to announce it.
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By early accounts, it looks like the school had school security, and the police were on the scene quickly. The local police had also recently completed training in active shooter incidents. Everything that could have gone wrong at Uvalde seems to have gone wrong.
I believe the shooter was arrested a year ago and was saying then he was going to shoot up the school.
I think we need juvenile justice reform. That kid should have been in jail and undergoing treatment for mental illness.
Wrong shooter. That was the Buffalo shooter. The police (and maybe the FBI?) interviewed him, he said he was kidding, and they let him go. There should be strict standards for people who own guns that if they express that they want to commit violence with guns, their guns should be taken away. This should not be a difficult concept, except for the NRA and the lawyers will be screaming about the Second and First Amendments.
The problem is that the group he called out never budges on this issue. C’mon man you know that. We have seen it every time. I actually agree with you on one aspect of this issue as I think the police were poorly trained leading up to this. Kerr is fine on this. Need to get people off their asses.
does the religion matter.????
If it does then freedom of religion in America only means the religions some Americans feel acceptable should have their Constitutional rights protected , the rest must be eliminated.
In case you didn't guess before asking> Muslim.
There was a country that the many of its citizens didn't care enough for the Jewish population there to stand up for the Jewish among them and allowed them to be eliminated without protest ;\We can't allow that to happen in the USA Keeping those capable of hurting/killing people because of their religion from making laws that would try and destroy a religion and the people that pratice it.
America should never look down on a religion, just hate the scumbags that use it to validate their killing innocent people.
Nor should we care about what religion is being oppressed , if one is, we should feel oppressing any religion is going against the Constitution of the United States and the moral code of the USA.
Feeling the way some ( peacefully) protest is wrong is something thsat is everyones right, just like others feeling there's nothing wrong they way that ( peaceful) protest is acceptable is a right all Americans should have.
Expecting everyone to agree with your POV on that protest is wrong , just like choosing a religion to hate is wrong.
Hating those who use religion to do terrorist acts shouldn't be considered a bad thing just like hurting the police protecting congress members, doing their job, should be considered a bad act by anti American scum
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Everything matters if it's working against my country and our interests.
While I understand your goal those two are pretty big toes to start stepping on.
Here is what I read before. He was arrested several years ago:
There is a process for that. If supporters of this idea want to engage in that, go for it and see where it leads.
I don’t like a lot of things going on in this country either but I always stand for the anthem. I always respect those who put their lives on the line so guys like Mr Kotter can whine about our country. I don’t like the whiners but it’s his right to be a whiner if he wants. That’s why we owe so much to our veterans. We have the right to act like idiots and do whatever we want thanks to them. So I’ll stand for the Flag every time.
Maybe it’s part of a greater strategy that helps prevent these incidents but may temporarily inconvenience our law abiding gun owners. That works for me, does it work for you?
does the attack on the capital by those trying to stop congress from counting the electoral college ballots to validate the presidential election belong on your "working against my country and our interests." list.
That I found that ( violent ) action anti American and totally unacceptable.
Peaceful protests are protected by the US Constitution and have been part of the public's way to let government know how they feel on various issues that effect the USA.and our way of life along with our own moral values we hold dear.
Protected from jail. Not protected from others calling a particular protest stupid and mocking the corresponding protester.
I'll also support Kapler's right to protest the way he feels right ( non violent) and also feel he's protesting the wrong way and actly distracting from the issue he's protesting about.
I have stood during the National Anthem since I could stand and will continue to do so until I can't stand on my own anymore
As for this thread, it's just about a repeat from the kneeling issue years ago that everyone had a say about and basically the same stance, by all, they have on this stay on locker-room issue
My POV is Kapler has a right to peacefully protest the way he feels is best, just like Colin K did.
I just feel they cxould have and sghould have found a better way because their choice of protest destracts from the goal by making the way their protesting the issue and not what they're protesting over
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