This whole freaking impeachment push is a freaking joke! It is a shame. No honest student of history or the constitution could ever believe what is happening to Trump is acceptable. Only a ideologue could think so. Disgusting!
OT: Demoncrats suck ARSE!
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It’s friday night before the national championship game that clemson is playing in, and this is what you come to the board with?
Been hanging out with *doveshooter, would be my guess.
Nope. The biggest difference between OP and CBV is one has a get back coach and the other needs one.
I was thinking this was applachatiger, then I realized that the sentences were actually understandable.
Still not seeing how thinking the President broke the law equates to sucking ***, but it's probably better than trying to start a shooting war to distract from impeachment.
Honestly if you vote for a liberal you are anti American.
Today’s liberals are the domestic enemy many of us swore to defend our constitution against
Today’s liberals are the domestic enemy many of us swore to defend our constitution against
What a moronic statement. Mods please zap/move this post.
Try growing up and living in MA. Because trump dislikes Iran, apparently that means Iran is actually a good country that people don’t understand.
I’m now at the point where I realize 90% of my generation gets news through Instagram. Guess that’s what happens when your school systems fail you.
I’m now at the point where I realize 90% of my generation gets news through Instagram. Guess that’s what happens when your school systems fail you.
So do you think both sides are absolutely embarrassing and horrible but the Democrats are worse? I'm ok if someone believes that. If not that at the very least you're unhinged too. I don't know you so I'm just guessing.
Ah, good to have one of the TI board Fascists weigh in on this.
Just trying to follow... so you think that killing of a leader of a terrorist organization responsible for killing and maiming of US service members, inciting violence throughout the region, and (probably purely by coincidence) was in Iraq during the assault on our embassy ... was simply a matter of politics?
If you do, I'd suggest that you consider an alternative view... that maybe this type of action to protect american interests is what needs to be done as opposed to the appeasement of the previous administration.
I'm not the poster, but my read was that he was just commenting on the effort to Impeach the POTUS. No mention of party. Do you think it's a sham?
However the the fact is that the effort is unquestionably partisan.. the Democrat party has to own it as theirs. Why not, if it's a good thing?
Edit to add: The OP did call out the Dmocrats in the thread title. However the Democrats due need own the impeachment. Period.
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The whole thing is a joke but to suggest the Democrats are doing anything different than what the Republicans would've done if Obama did 1% of what Trump has done is just stupid. Trump to this point has done more than enough to be removed from office. The dude has been a career criminal and immoral human being his entire life. He's not a Christian and never had been which is his right. He's never pretended to be a good person and I respect his honesty in that respect. He's a horrible human being and he's been that way consistently in both his business and personal life and he's never tried to pretend he hasn't been all that. This is all all week documented and if you believe otherwise then shame on you.
The big problem is his accusers are horrible as well. So all of them are a bunch of crooks.
You have brought so much irrelevant stuff and emotion into this that I really don't know where to start without being pejorative.
The Repubs aren't impeaching the POTUS, so to talk about some hypothetical is absurd... however I will point out that the Repubs conducted their impeachment of Clinton (who was getting BJ's from the help while at work in his office) better than this Democrat sh*t show.
So what crimminal stuff has Trump done? Facts please.
Immoral? What does that have do do with his performance as the CEO of the US? Not a Christian? Says you speaking for Jesus, I guess... So that impacts his record as POTUS how? Personal life? How is that relevant any more than your personal life is relevant to your job performance?
I'd ask that you stop for a second and think. Time for pragmatism.
But barring that, who on the democrat side has the moral high ground?
I probably was pejorative. But I am asking good questions of you. Consider them.
CEO of the US? There's your problem. President isn't a CEO, and the country isn't a business. And shouldn't be run like one.
He's just making a bunch of excuses. I think I was very clear on my statements. Like I said, Trump never pretended to be any of those things so I don't really blame him but these folks trying to pretend like he isn't a criminal makes me laugh. Bloomberg and those other criminals problems were they were also criminals coming after Trump.
I stated something similar in my original post and he proceeds to ask me which Democrat had the moral high ground. I clearly said they were bad just like him. In his haste to defend his King his ability to read was impacted I guess. I'll be happy when this regretful period in our nation's history comes to an end. Both sides have embarrassed themselves a number of different ways. I just love watching the people pretend this isn't the case. And believe me I understand politics. Problem is I haven't heard many discussions focused on policy. It's just a bunch of extremely horrible and corrupt people yelling at each other and their followers defending then right down party lines. It's sad. A lot of good people embarrassing themselves by picking sides. I wish we could somehow impeach them all.
My problem? Lol.
There are three branches of the government. You know that right? Ok, maybe not. Let me help.
One of them is the Legislative. That's "1"
Another one is the Judicial. That's "2"
The third branch is the Executive. That's "3"
Great, now that we've got that cleared up... Stick with me, Flo. ... It's going to get more complicated from here...
The President is the person that is in charge of the Executive Branch. So, as the "top guy" we could refer to him as the "Chief" (Websters: "the person who is the leader of a group of people, of an organization") .... that would be the, "C" in CEO. The, "E" would be, "Executive"... as in, "Executive Branch". The next letter, "O" as in "Officer" (Websters: "One who holds an office of trust, authority, or command.")
I know that was a lot, and I apologize.
I hope where you went to high school they are educating kids better now.
However, how should the country be run? Educate me.
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LOLOL. @TigerLion06
Don't talk past me. Talk to me. I'm right here, you " Lion" you.
I'm not making any excuses. I asked questions that you didn't answer and now you are talking about me to some other person who will validate your worldview and give you a e-hug. Lol.
Just in case you forgot my questions that you never answered...
What does that have do do with his performance as the CEO of the US? Not a Christian? Says you speaking for Jesus, I guess... So that impacts his record as POTUS how? Personal life? How is that relevant any more than your personal life is relevant to your job performance?
Why no answers to my questions? Too hard to answer? Ok here are a few more...
What about you? Have you ever done anything immoral? Any sexual immorality? What is immoral? Porn? Sodomy? IF you are married, did you marry an "immoral" woman? Has that impacted your job performance? Should your version of morality apply to me? Is that annotated anywhere in the Constitution?
C'mon. Don't hide. Be a "Lion"!
Not even close. Watching a wannabe strongman who ***** on the constitution daily is about the most anti-American thing I can imagine.
Your imagination is your imagination and its worth as much as much as anyone else's including mine. However IMHO, you don't have a very good imagination.
While you're doing your best to ignore the obvious it's apparent you're not as stupid as you're trying to convince us you are. You're smart enough to come up with these dumb *** questions that don't address what I've said. Everything I've said about him is documented and if you weren't too busy making excuses you'd see I said I don't blame him for anything he's been his entire life and he's never pretended to be anything different.
Being a Christian used to matter when electing the president. Not having the openly grossly immoral background or image used to matter when running for president. Being married only once and although we've seen womanizers elected in the past, his behavior in that area is unprecedented. He was a horrible slum lord and basically robbed many small business people with popular unethical tactics that have made many others rich, not just him. Multiple bankruptcies. Many secrets. Constantly trying to suppress info that would usually make people like you ask what are you hiding. If you're interested why are you acting guilty. But I'm sure you have another excuse.
Again.....
Trump was not planning on being a politician so he never tried to live some fake public life to convince people he was all the things that usually get people elected. Like I said, many of his accusers have done bad things and are horrible people themselves so they are just as bad. What's sad are people like you trying to play dumb and pretend like he isn't all the things I mentioned and more. You're making yourself look stupid. You are worse than Trump. I said clearly both sides are horrible and they are embarrassing us citizens. I'll be glad when this period is over. But go ahead and tell me none of those things about Trump are true and ask for proof that you yourself are probably already aware of or can easily Google.
C'mon "Lion" Not only are you avoiding questions directly driven by your statements and claims to the moral high ground, but now you are putting words into my mouth. I normally would get angry, but for you, it's not worth it.
You can't /won't answer questions about your morality and yet you want to be Jesus on earth and judge others. Got it.
You actually say a bunch of things that I could agree with, but it's all jumbled up into some thing that is impossible to follow. And yes I'm not stupid. If I appear that way.. I'd suggest looking in the mirror.
But here is the bottom line.. since you can't /won't answer anything. You are probably immoral. Calling Trump immoral. Ok. So we are all immoral beings.
See, I don't really care about any of that. I just care about our Republic and those things that the Federal Government should be concerned about. Stock market is up. Illegal Mexicans and other illegals.. down. Foreign countries contributing to their own defense... up. Terrorists dead.. up. Unemployment .. down.
Success to me.
I'd still like you to address the simple questions that I asked you. But I understand totally if you do not.
Have you ever done anything immoral? Any sexual immorality? What is immoral? Porn? Sodomy? IF you are married, did you marry an "immoral" woman? Has that impacted your job performance? Should your version of morality apply to me? Is that annotated anywhere in the Constitution?
What Immorality have do do with his performance as the CEO of the US? Not a Christian? How does that impact his record or ability to be POTUS? Personal life? How is that relevant any more than your personal life is relevant to your job performance?
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The board complainers are upset with Trump and Dabo because neither will reveal the secret of the word success to them without earning the right to know
There is a reason you guys are in the cold
because you have no understanding of keeping your business to yourselff and loose lips sink ships
Growing up is a process many people struggle with
I see it on here and in life a lot
The ultimate irony is that hardcore Republicans & Democrats don't realize that they are two sides of the same coin, yet they love calling-out the other. Anyone who automatically parrots the talking points for their side is too blinded by their political allegiance for critical thought.
I'm a moderate who grew up Republican, and has only voted for a Democrat once in my life. I even donated to the Trump campaign during the GOP primary because I thought (like many) that he would "pivot" and be more Presidential when/if he won the nomination and/or office.
But - of course - he did not do that. He has continued to show that he is the same dishonest, self-serving egomaniac that he's always been.
I have no connection or passion for the Democratic party. I do not want a Socialist country. I groan when I see the options that they are trotting out.
But I will vote for ANY of them over Trump. He's that awful in my book, as much as I wish it were not so.
I'm a moderate who grew up Republican, and has only voted for a Democrat once in my life. I even donated to the Trump campaign during the GOP primary because I thought (like many) that he would "pivot" and be more Presidential when/if he won the nomination and/or office.
But - of course - he did not do that. He has continued to show that he is the same dishonest, self-serving egomaniac that he's always been.
I have no connection or passion for the Democratic party. I do not want a Socialist country. I groan when I see the options that they are trotting out.
But I will vote for ANY of them over Trump. He's that awful in my book, as much as I wish it were not so.
I'll give it a shot.
He is single handedly destroying the institutions of this country by:
When the media disagrees with him, he calls them fake and the enemy of the people. A free press is fundamental to our democracy. It's also one of the first things to go in a dictatorship.
When he is ruled against in the courts, he questions ethnicity, sanity, or creates a conspiracy. There's another pillar he's chipping away.
As a lifelong Republican, he's destroying the party. On numerous issues he's so far removed from Republican positions, it's no longer the Republican party.
Why does his claim of faith matter? 80% to 85% of evangelicals voted for a man who multiple times a days arrogantly flouts behavior that is antithetical to the faith. He's a thrice married, grab them by the *****, lying cheat. The younger generation is hastening their flight from faith.
How do I know he's not a Christian. We all sin daily, but are reconciled through repentance. He has openly stated that:
A. He has never asked for forgiveness
B. He doesn't see a need for repentance.
It appears common now, to justify poor behavior by offering some form of whataboutism. For example claims in this thread that he isn't as bad as the Democrats. I don't think you want to use them as the standard for which you measure your President against. Let's aim for honest, decent, high moral character.
One last thought. I believe enough was demonstrated to allow him to be impeached. I see impeachment as the rough equivalent of an indictment, ie we have enough suspicion to warrant a trial to determine the truth.
At this point, I couldn't vote for removal because we haven't seen enough evidence. The primary reason we haven't is because he's blocked every key witness and all relevant documents, which isn't a good look. I really want to hear from Bolton. For the sake of protecting a cultish leader, you shouldn't. For the sake of this country, we all should want to know more.
He is single handedly destroying the institutions of this country by:
When the media disagrees with him, he calls them fake and the enemy of the people. A free press is fundamental to our democracy. It's also one of the first things to go in a dictatorship.
When he is ruled against in the courts, he questions ethnicity, sanity, or creates a conspiracy. There's another pillar he's chipping away.
As a lifelong Republican, he's destroying the party. On numerous issues he's so far removed from Republican positions, it's no longer the Republican party.
Why does his claim of faith matter? 80% to 85% of evangelicals voted for a man who multiple times a days arrogantly flouts behavior that is antithetical to the faith. He's a thrice married, grab them by the *****, lying cheat. The younger generation is hastening their flight from faith.
How do I know he's not a Christian. We all sin daily, but are reconciled through repentance. He has openly stated that:
A. He has never asked for forgiveness
B. He doesn't see a need for repentance.
It appears common now, to justify poor behavior by offering some form of whataboutism. For example claims in this thread that he isn't as bad as the Democrats. I don't think you want to use them as the standard for which you measure your President against. Let's aim for honest, decent, high moral character.
One last thought. I believe enough was demonstrated to allow him to be impeached. I see impeachment as the rough equivalent of an indictment, ie we have enough suspicion to warrant a trial to determine the truth.
At this point, I couldn't vote for removal because we haven't seen enough evidence. The primary reason we haven't is because he's blocked every key witness and all relevant documents, which isn't a good look. I really want to hear from Bolton. For the sake of protecting a cultish leader, you shouldn't. For the sake of this country, we all should want to know more.
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Back to OP’s original statement and aside from the nuclear holocaust that has ensued
...I’d feel better about having the high moral ground if we (Republicans) had not impeached Clinton after cornering him into making grey area statements under oath about his receiving some extra curricular benefits in the Oval Office. I don’t condone it and believe that it degraded the office, but what did we think was going to happen when we impeached a president over an argument on whether a BJ is sexual relations or not?
Back to OP’s original statement and aside from the nuclear holocaust that has ensued
I’d feel better about having the high moral ground if we (Republicans) had not impeached Clinton after cornering him into making grey area statements under oath about his receiving some extra curricular benefits in the Oval Office. I don’t condone it and believe that it degraded the office, but what did we think was going to happen when we impeached a president over an argument on whether a BJ is sexual relations or not?
Relax. Clinton lied under oath during his Grand Jury testimony in the Paula Jones sexual predator lawsuit. He also witness tampered Monica Lewinski. He had 11 counts of Perjury, Suborning Perjury, Witness Tampering, etc in all. He settled with Paula Jones, paying her around 900K $. He was disbarred.
Trump has not been charged with anything; after 2+ years of SC investigating, and this Whistle Leaker bs is all contrived and will be proven so during the Senate Impeachment trial. Justice is coming. This whole thing is a smokescreen to hide the Obama admin. lawbreaking leading up to and during the last (2016) election. Be patient.
That's exactly what I'm saying. Any time Trump feels that he's taking heat at home, he "manufactures" a crisis to distract. It's the oldest trick in the book and it works. Don't get me wrong, I am well aware of what Iran is and have no problem with killing this guy. Interesting that Trump all of a sudden starts worrying about a random terrorist when he needs some positive press. Just like "justice warrior" Trump all of a sudden decided to clean up corruption abroad by investigating (Just by chance no doubt) his political rival. Remember the government shutdown and the sudden "border emergency" that allowed Trump to take money from hurricane recovery to fund the wall? Trump is helping out Trump. The same as he has his entire life. If America gets in a shooting war with Iran and a few thousand Americans have to die for Trump to get elected, I'm sure it's worth it to Trump (and his followers). This is aimed at boosting Trump and it's working. Trump is doing EXACTLY what he accused Obama of doing in 2011. Here you go... Even fox news sees it.
https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/t...ma-would-start-war-with-iran-to-get-reelected
I'm not sure what you mean by "alernative view". Trump has spent his entire life self promoting and looking after number one. He is continuing that behavior