OT: 2025 Coaching Carousel
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Good, I hated what was happening to that program after TD proved to be a fumble,
I remember how Bill Clark brought that program back from extinction ( 3 years no play) only to see Trent make UAB pretty bad
sometimes what you have makes the bad ones more like "the one that got away" then good riddance
2014- Defense was pretty bad 30.9 ppg
2015- Got worse (no data on ESPN) 36.9 ppg
2016--He was gone, Ash error- got even worse
2017- reverted back to 2014
Minnesota
2021- 18.3 ppg solid
2022- 142 ppg--top rated
2023- slipped to 26.7 ppg
MSU:
2024-- 25.5 ppg
2025- not doing very well.
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Had a couple of good years at Minnesota.
Luke Fickell is a name to think about ,if he's let go by Wisconsin
I'd have to amend this. JF's large buyout makes me think lots of things are possible now that I didn't think were before. Fickell at 27M, Stoops just under 40M etc..
Doesn't sound like they exchange Christmas Cards.
Wisconsin’s Luke Fickell hasn’t stayed in contact with Greg Schiano
Luke Fickell talks about Rutgers football head coach Greg Schiano.
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Don't sound like there's bad blood, nor the type of warmth friends have.Doesn't sound like they exchange Christmas Cards.
Wisconsin’s Luke Fickell hasn’t stayed in contact with Greg Schiano
Luke Fickell talks about Rutgers football head coach Greg Schiano.
More than likely 2 competitors thrown together doing the same job at the same place that didn't leave as friends, but not enemies either .
I believe if both thought it would help their career Luke would work for Greg and Greg would offer Luke the RU DC position .
But neither would consider the other as a first choice when it comes to working together.
Where have I seen that idea before @Knight Shift 
Nice to see this being discussed a lot more in the CFB media finally but won't believe things will change until I actually see it in practice.
Paywall but some excerpts:
But the era of directly sharing revenue with players could finally change the math. At least, they hope.
“For the first time, every dollar in head coach salary is one less dollar that would go to buying you better players,” said one administrator, granted anonymity to discuss the topic candidly.
College coaching contracts really aren’t like anything else in major sports. NFL teams can’t hire sitting head coaches without permission or a trade. In pro sports, in the business world, in most things, a contract is binding.
Joe Moglia, the former Coastal Carolina head coach and CEO of TD Ameritrade, has long railed about the nature of coaching contracts and the damage schools do to themselves.
“(Right now), if you have a great year and somebody wants you, you can leave the next year, and with the portal the way it is, all your best players can come with you,” Moglia said in 2022. “The school you’re leaving is decimated. … If you sign a five-year deal, you’re supposed to be there for five years and nobody can poach you. Nobody should even be allowed to talk to him unless there’s six months left or something. If a guy is doing great and you want to extend him, the guy has to make a real decision. If he thinks he can get a bigger job, he might hold off.
“(But right now), even if the future may be in doubt, they’re encouraged by the agent to extend the contract because of recruiting. That’s bulls—.”
Coaches already get bonuses for championships and various other accomplishments, but they could always dramatically increase that — a bonus for every win past a sixth victory, for example. Another option could be shorter contracts like the NFL.
Nice to see this being discussed a lot more in the CFB media finally but won't believe things will change until I actually see it in practice.
Paywall but some excerpts:
But the era of directly sharing revenue with players could finally change the math. At least, they hope.
“For the first time, every dollar in head coach salary is one less dollar that would go to buying you better players,” said one administrator, granted anonymity to discuss the topic candidly.
College coaching contracts really aren’t like anything else in major sports. NFL teams can’t hire sitting head coaches without permission or a trade. In pro sports, in the business world, in most things, a contract is binding.
Joe Moglia, the former Coastal Carolina head coach and CEO of TD Ameritrade, has long railed about the nature of coaching contracts and the damage schools do to themselves.
“(Right now), if you have a great year and somebody wants you, you can leave the next year, and with the portal the way it is, all your best players can come with you,” Moglia said in 2022. “The school you’re leaving is decimated. … If you sign a five-year deal, you’re supposed to be there for five years and nobody can poach you. Nobody should even be allowed to talk to him unless there’s six months left or something. If a guy is doing great and you want to extend him, the guy has to make a real decision. If he thinks he can get a bigger job, he might hold off.
“(But right now), even if the future may be in doubt, they’re encouraged by the agent to extend the contract because of recruiting. That’s bulls—.”
Coaches already get bonuses for championships and various other accomplishments, but they could always dramatically increase that — a bonus for every win past a sixth victory, for example. Another option could be shorter contracts like the NFL.
So much for those shorter, more reasonable HC contracts. If a HC has big success on the field, the offers seem to be almost unlimited.
Mel Tucker is thinking to himself somewhere that it would have been a lot cheaper to use a call girl service instead of making moves on the sexual harassment trainer.
This article doesn't have Rhule as a good canidate, but I feel he's the front runner now that Indiana has paid the price to keep theirs.
Rhule has strong Penn State ties and a relationship with the Nit AD
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Rhule has strong Penn State ties and a relationship with the Nit AD
Head-coaching candidates Penn State should avoid: Why Matt Rhule, others would be disastrous
All signs point toward Rhule landing the job, but that would be a colossal mistake.
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Guess yardbarker feels Schiano's job is safe or he'd be on this list
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Buyout figures for five CFB head coaches on the hot seat
The 2025 season is only half over, and at least seven college football head coaches already have been fired.
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The top job here makes me wonder if they know what they are talking about.
It's a good one but Penn State despite the pressure is a coach's dream ,with the type of support the program gets
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It's a good one but Penn State despite the pressure is a coach's dream ,with the type of support the program gets
Ranking five best college football head-coaching openings
The college football coaching carousel is already in full swing. As prospective candidates begin surveying their options, which current openings are the most attractive?
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$677K at James Madison to $11M at Indiana…that’s just impressive… now however he has to beat the poisonous nuts and Michigan consistently, but even if he gets fired eventually he’s already won
Well in a few years the buyout will be in the Franklin category.
I always wondered why a school couldn't extend the years add mega bucks bit have a time limit before
the extension salary would be used for buyout.
I'd say one year before original contract would expire and if let go before original contract expired the time left on original would be paid in full for the years left , then what years left because of the extension the buyout would be paid half of what salary he made due to the extension.
If canned after original expiration date, full extension salary for the remaining years school would owe .
I'm probably naive to think that way, but when schools pay giant buyouts- the fans complain and schools ( boosters) set themselves up for them anyway just to keep a HC or entice them to come after paying through the nose to get rid of the last one
I don't have a problem with the big salaries when the coach is performing. Pay 12M last year to CC, he deserves it. If he does the same this year, he deserves it. The problem is the salaries and buyout figures when you're not performing and performance can drop for anyone regardless of what may be happening in the present.
I'd do contracts which reward performance and have a reasonable base. Somewhat similar to what @Knight Shift has suggested
5 yr contract 4M/yr
1M bonus for each conference win starting at 5 ( 9 conference games so 5 wins is a good area)
1M bonus for a ranking in the final CFP rankings of the year (ranked teams usually have at least 8-9 wins)
1M bonus for a playoff appearance
1M bonus for each playoff win
1.5M bonus for national championship
2 years automatically added to the deal under the same terms (this metric can be flexible) for any final CFP ranking or playoff appearance if there is less than 4 years on the contract.
No outs for anything except NFL HC
On a very good year, that gets you into the double digits to mid teens in salary. On an average year to good year somewhere in the mid to high singles. Subpar year 4M.
That kind of deal pays for performance, handsomely rewards high performance, can keep a coach around longer and also controls buyouts to 16M or less.
It's fair for everyone. If a coach/agent won't except, keep looking. Plenty of qualified candidates worthy of an opportunity that would. This has to be done when the coach is first hired. Agents will push back anyway but moreso on a currently sitting HC.
Use the money saved on the base salary on assistant pool or athletic department's NIL budget. I just saw an article in the Athletic where an assistant turned down a raise and said put it towards NIL. I've similar with HCs looking to get more money to their assistants.
The years you're performing well, everyone will happily pay the high salary. If you're not, there isn't an albatross around your neck.
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Yea I heard comments from him that he wants to be there through next year…so not a 1 and done…maybe a 2 and done lol.
or he found a spot that he can recruit at his own pace, not one that SEC schools need to win.
I would say 1 more year ( rest of this one and next year) , because if he has a great season next year after having a good one this year , it will be hard to turn down the type of offers he'll be getting
Napier choked up in press conference after the game and took pics with family on the field after the game which he hasn’t done before.
Most think that was his last game.
I’d wonder about Fickell too with regards to today.
Edit: heard after Oregon, Wisc has an open date so maybe then.
Most think that was his last game.
I’d wonder about Fickell too with regards to today.
Edit: heard after Oregon, Wisc has an open date so maybe then.
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Brian Kelly now rumored to be in trouble at LSU…he’s a New England dude totally out of place in Dixie.
Maybe penn state and lsu can trade…circumvent buyouts...a head coaches transfer portal…save $$
Maybe penn state and lsu can trade…circumvent buyouts...a head coaches transfer portal…save $$
Billy Napier, like Luke Fickell, seemed like such a sure thing:
| 2018 | Louisiana | 7–7 | 5–3 | T–1st (West) | L Cure | ||
| 2019 | Louisiana | 11–3 | 7–1 | 1st (West) | W LendingTree | ||
| 2020 | Louisiana | 10–1 | 7–1 | 1st (West)[29] | W First Responder | 16 | 15 |
| 2021 | Louisiana | 12–1 | 8–0 | 1st (West) | New Orleans[a] | 18 | 16 |
| Louisiana: | 40–12 | 27–5 | |||||
| Florida Gators (Southeastern Conference) (2022–present) | |||||||
| 2022 | Florida | 6–7 | 3–5 | T–4th (Eastern) | L Las Vegas | ||
| 2023 | Florida | 5–7 | 3–5 | T–4th (Eastern) | |||
| 2024 | Florida | 8–5 | 4–4 | 10th | W Gasparilla | ||
| 2025 | Florida | 2–4 | 1–2 | ||||
| Florida: | 21–23 | 11–16 |
Sounds like he’s a nice guy listening to CFB media and they have talent but he hasn’t been able to put it together. Also his game management is highly questionable, including yesterday’s Miss St game which they very nearly lost because his decisions.
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Easier to get away with in a G5, at lower tier conference games. In P4, particularly in the B1G and SEC, the margin for error is ever so slight. Like last night in Piscataway- Rutgers was one good defensive play from winning that game. And a fieldhouse, and $40 million in NIL money. We had those things, and a coaching change would NEVER be necessary. Ash would win in that scenario!
Hugh Freeze could have helped with that, though I'm sure he would have told him not to use the school's phone.