How do you coach a teenager with an ego the size of a mountain when they're out getting paid to sign autographs and doing store opening?
#Not NCAA property
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It isn't a job.
We can agree to disagree then. College athletes get a full scholarship which is mostly made up of out of state students. IIRC this scholarship allows them to come back to school at any time and pursue a degree. No one is forcing them to come to college. If they are skilled at what they want to do and want to get paid to do it they can go get paid by a business, league, etc.
Keeping them from making money based off their likeness is a totally different story.
College basketball is a garbage product anyway. The NBA is great because it is all about the players, you know, the people with the actual talent. The NCAA tries to make college basketball about anything else but the player. It's about the conference, it's about the school, it's about the coach, it's about the referees. Who gives a good ******* if these kids get paid? How does that affect your life? Anyone outraged by that needs to take a step back and reevaluate.
Because your opinion is what matters huh? Apparently you can't think your way out of much.
Paid from the school or the NCAA? No, it's not feasible when you do the math. Most schools can't afford it and neither could the NCAA.
But they should not be restricted in earning money off of their name, image, and likeness.
The amount of money they can make from social media is pretty significant. College is supposed to prepare you for the real world. In the real world, everyone doesn't get paid the same, even if you're on the same team.
But they should not be restricted in earning money off of their name, image, and likeness.
The amount of money they can make from social media is pretty significant. College is supposed to prepare you for the real world. In the real world, everyone doesn't get paid the same, even if you're on the same team.
Great for UK, we can finally legally buy recruits like Duke and Kansas have been doing for decades
No argument - Kentucky
now answer me honestly-do you think we will still recruit that level of player
I find it funny that admin focuses solely on the money 99% of the time, right up until the players want a piece of the pie. College sports, football and basketball, are the most unamerican systems economically speaking.
People that don't want athletes to be paid market value must believe in communist economic philosophies. No way would a capitalist support denying labor the right to earn their worth.
Cavinder twins, female volleyball players at Fresno State, have nearly 3 million followers on TikTok. They can make over 500k a year just by monetizing their account.
If available. The Wagner kid is top of his class for 2022, if I am not mistaken. Sounds like we will go hard after him and others that signal college as a serious option. However, I do think you will see more emphasis put on getting more multi year players, as you are seeing with what we are signing for this class.
what????????????? That makes zero sense. Why can't they earn the money as they generate it? How does the walk-on generate as much as say Zion Williamson? Equitable for all parties, now we're back to communist principles. Equity in this country is equity of opportunity, not outcomes.
Again they can go test the market, they aren’t forced to play college ball. They can get paid for their likeness and get on social media without college ball
No, it would be horrible for everyone. Not to mention, UK is way down the list of schools with wealthiest boosters.
Right? Where can I sell mine? What's the going rate for a Master's? I'd gladly unload it for 1% of that figure.
Wrong. UK basketball will have as much resources to buy players as any basketball program in the nation. It will definitely hurt us in football though.
College Basketball was supposed to be somewhat related to College, correct? One-n-Done has already made a joke of the value of college. We were pushing the boundary for years with "partial qualifiers" but at least we could feel good about getting someone into school who wouldn't have otherwise.
Tons of parents hope, pray, and strive to get their kids even partial scholarships. Some young people go into the service to get a degree.
I'm fine with young men who prefer to get paid, to go get paid. However, it should have nothing to do with college. We all got along just fine without Kobe and Lebron. We'll survive.
Tons of parents hope, pray, and strive to get their kids even partial scholarships. Some young people go into the service to get a degree.
I'm fine with young men who prefer to get paid, to go get paid. However, it should have nothing to do with college. We all got along just fine without Kobe and Lebron. We'll survive.
Really. Now you're just being difficult. Your post had nothing to do with the post I was replying to.
They’re not “doing a job”. They’re getting an education (if they’re actually interested), room and board, medical, etc. and some of them are getting prepared for a job that will pay them millions. Look at it as an internship. Amateurism matters. Pay these guys and what is already a corrupt business will become a hundred times more corrupt.
I know. This has never happened before ever. Pro teenagers in tennis, baseball, soccer, etc refuse to be coached. The Addidas scandal conclusively proved that no college basketball recruits are or have been getting paid for some time. Thank our lucky stars for that.
Allow that and there will only be a few dozen schools that matter anymore.
I’m very interested in this argument. How does amateurism matter? You already described some compensation (education, room, board) so this isn’t even true amateurism. If amateurism is so important why not force coaches, athletic directors, NCAA executives to take a vow of amateurism? Why is it okay for some people to become insanely wealthy from college sports, so long as they are not the athletes!?
Yep. Government workers could make millions straight out of high school if they weren’t prohibited from entering govt service. Awesome analogy.
The only thing that makes them bad actors is the arbitrary ncaa rule. Without that rule, the whole thing sounds a lot like free market capitalism.
Let’s say tuition is $12k, rooming is $10k, food is $2k, books and miscellaneous is another $2k - that’s $100k for a basic 4 year degree at an affordable state school. Now tuition Michigan is $32k
That’s such a dumb argument it doesn’t really merit a response, but here it is. Coaches, ADs, etc. are employees. Players are NOT. They are students. Do you think college coaches are going to coach for free? It’s their job! They do it for a living. As for players getting “compensation” in the form of an education, room and board, etc., that’s the way it’s set up. Do you think most of those guys could pay for all of that? It’s called a scholarship. There are many types of scholarships. Academic scholarships for example. Is an engineering student on an academic scholarship an employee? No. Are they a professional engineer? No, they’re a student just like athletes. College athletics was originally set up for school spirit, bring students and fans together, and as a way for some students to get their college paid for. It’s been corrupted.
The post you were replying to was about the potential money to be made. I gave an example, that has something to do with it.
18+ yr old adults should be able to
Well the coach is being paid 9 million a year to figure it out
Is an engineering student prevented from making money off of his name, image, or likeness?
There has been zero parity in college football for decades. Less parity in college basketball would be great for UK. Still dont think it will change much, every P5 school has the resources to "get" their players....and the blue bloods will get more than their fair share as usual
And by the way, not a single collegiate athlete is forced to go to college. They can go play overseas for a year or straight to the G League. They go to college because they know it benefits them. Otherwise they wouldn’t go.