NIL day one
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Ok. Let’s tag them this way then…..they are Americans and in America we have the right to earn a living. We should all have the right to profit off of our own name and likeness and not be denied that by any organization that does in fact profit off of said likeness. Do you not agree?
A company paying a celebrity for their name, image or likeness is basic and pure capitalism. Please explain how it is not
I love your passion. I really do. And I love a debate as much as the next guy. But the train is on the tracks and it's chugging along hard. Why not get on board as this point? It's a moot point. It is happening. I respect your right to voice your displeasure, though. (And I am being serious)
Once they go pro or are no longer on scholarship, absolutely. Not while they’re in school. No!
How the hell can you say they’re not employees when you talk about their compensation? Because it’s school it’s different? Makes no sense. At all.
So what about other kids who don’t play sports but are on scholarship?
A lot of you also bring up the fact that the student athletes are already being paid via a free education. I actually agree with that. They are getting something that has a monetary value in exchange for their participation in their sport. So In Essence they have always been paid.
I am in favor of that and I am also in favor of them getting even more payment in exchange for their name, image and likeness. If a person can make money in a free and open market then I think that’s beautiful. That’s the American dream. I love this freakin country.
I like my liberty without restraints
I am in favor of that and I am also in favor of them getting even more payment in exchange for their name, image and likeness. If a person can make money in a free and open market then I think that’s beautiful. That’s the American dream. I love this freakin country.
I like my liberty without restraints
Student = attack the free market
Athlete = attack the free market
Student-athlete = forbidden from the free market
That is the epitome of old school ignorance
Lol, i think my favorite logic pretzel with this entire issue is the Russia / communist comments.
I can definitely tell political science is not the strong suit.
Free market baby! Nothing gets me more excited than bag dropping. Time to get the ball rolling. I expect Jalen Duren to have 6 local endorsements by tomorrow. All under the table. All very sketchy. Pay the man!
Why don’t you show up for your workplace every day out of the goodness of your heart?
With the transfer rule will this open up some bidding wars for star players? If a Lexington car dealer is paying 100K to a player and car dealer in LA wants him at UCLA maybe he will offer double to get him to transfer and represent his dealer at UCLA. Could be some interesting stuff going on in the future. Since the deals are not tied to the university it should be wide open unless a contract is in place with the player to begin with, then a buyout clause may come into play.
I don't necessarily mind that they are able to make money and I think they ultimately should, but at the same time, it's going to diminish my fanhood of college basketball just a little bit more. And it's already eroded a lot in the last several years.
Perhaps communist Russia is not communist Russia anymore? Hmmm. I need another communist country for my analogy STAT!
The beauty of all of this is that if you don't want to contribute to the NIL you don't have to. Just simply not participate. What a novel idea.
If I wanted to seek control would I really ask?
You seem to be the one here wanting to control others abilities to earn a living.
Oh no. They have viable options. You seem to want to destroy amateur athletics.
I’ll get to laugh later. When everyone realizes they just stepped knee deep in a stinking, steaming pile of crap.
By the way, I guess you support drug dealing as capitalism. They are just making money, right?
Amateur athletics still exist everywhere. What world are you living in? Go root for EKU or Bellarmine if it means that much to you. Go to the local Ymca. Go find your happiness
So you don’t give a damn about athletics as long as you think we get an advantage.
That is why this will fail.
I'll ask once again since you ignored it the first time. What are the other viable options for football players?
Apparently they aren’t needed. Otherwise there would be more options. Free enterprise, remember? That’s how capitalism works.
Dude you just said that dealing drugs is akin to signing autographs. You’ve proven over and over that you have no idea how capitalism works.
One of the biggest reasons why I support NIL is because though the scholarship is assigned monetary value relative to however much the cost to attend the school is, it isn’t like they can be given a scholarship that is worth $100K and sell it to someone else to cash out if they wanted to.
It never made sense as to why a student who was on a full academic scholarship could have access to outside sources of revenue like NIL is providing but a student on an athletic scholarship could not without forfeiting their eligibility. This is a step in the right direction.
They can make a living. Nothing was stopping them. They voluntarily agreed to enter amateur athletic competition. They have every right every other American had. So your basic assumption is just more ********.
The academic studen did not voluntarily enter into an agreement to compete as an amateur. Nobody forced these athletes.
There is no reason a person shouldn’t be able to make money off their own image especially when others make money off that. I don’t understand why other people getting money bothers some of you.
College basketball played as amateur competition has been a ruse since at least the early 90s. Damn near every highly ranked recruit likely received some sort of illegal extra benefit as early as 8th or 9th grade and continuing through high school and AAU.
Amateurism has been a facade for a long time now in both major revenue generating NCAA sports.
I mean it’s not like they’re in a position to choose. Most families can’t afford college out of pocket, so while it’s true that nobody forced them to accept the scholarship, it’s not like they have many other options if they want to attend college and try to avoid crippling debt to pay back.
And most academic scholarships to have terms that you must uphold to maintain the scholarship, usually a GPA requirement.
The only body that has even cared about amatuerism is the NCAA.
The game was MUCH better in the 70’s-90’s. I guess that’s “old school ignorance”?