Again n, how can you possibly be that naive? NIL broadens the number of people that can and will try to influence outcomes. Google Kentucky, gambling and basketball.
And how do you know what they were doing? You friends with these kinds of folks?
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And how do you know what they were doing? You friends with these kinds of folks?
Yes, I am sure there are plenty of people who will take the plunge of illegally bribing players now that NIL is a thing.
You don't have to know those types of people to know they don't like to do business where the money is traceable and NIl is traceable
You essentially did imply they all were. But, of course, when it’s your income it’s not fraudulent.
What you just described is collusion, racketeering and fraud. All are illegal and punishable under US law.
What you also just described can and has been done without NIL rules. So, logically, this would have no new impact on that. Why would NIL change potential illegal activity? Did they need NIL to be able to act in an illegal manner? Why would they if they have been able to do this for decades before NIL was even a thing?
Also, how many athletes do you think are going to risk their careers, freedom and future millions for a quick 100,000 grand that involved turning on their teammates, coaches and fans? Particularly when they now have the opportunity for ample legal income streams to derive from…
You are just throwing out odd scenarios to try to justify your insecurities with teenagers being more financially accomplished and secure than you are in mid-life. It’s not their fault you are a loser and can’t adequately provide for your family. Work harder!
When 1 guy is trying to convince everyone else they are the naïve ones, it’s probably not everyone else that is the actual problem.
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Lol, NIL is popular among the vast majority. Even a conservative supreme court sided with athletes and the NIL. So, again, calling everyone else naive whom you disagree with makes you look the most naive.
Literally my point. They are in prison because they got caught doing illegal things. None of them needed the NIL laws to do illegal things. This would have no impact on that. Why would criminals need a new law in place to start acting illegally?
Also, how many of them are in prison for fixing games?
None of those school were charged with match fixing or anything NIL related. All of them were breaking the rules, and in some cases law, before NIL. Why would this impact that? KY dealt with gambling in the 50's and 60's. Long before NIL was ever a thing. So, we athletes shouldn't profit today because UK players gambled 60 and 70 years ago?
If those are the consequences (I don’t believe they will be) then so be it.
I don’t agree with things on the principle that it will only be good for my favorite team. I just think it is the fair thing to do to allow them to make money off of their likeness if they are able to.
What about them? Do you see them getting paid for anything?
I am fairly certain that all of those scholarship non athletes, can hold jobs, be tutors, start a company for birthday parties, car washes, etc, write stories or comments on social media, make and sell t shirts, have a rock and roll band, endorse and speak or write about your business, hold a clinic on fitness, or athletic improvements in any venue, etc., etc.
I swear, the boot lickers and elite athlete suckoffs are probably the most annoying and short sighted people on planet earth.
I could see how it went down. Waiting for an autograph by Russell Westbrook, he jumped into your face and said “get the f outa way way” and threw you down. You not only kept the Russell face sweater you were wearing (he touched it while throwing you after all), but got off the floor turned to the guy behind you and said HES NOT SIGNING AUTOGRAPHS BACK UP AND LEAVE HIM ALONE!!!
It gives me that “I could take this guys money” feel, but hard to do online.
I could see how it went down. Waiting for an autograph by Russell Westbrook, he jumped into your face and said “get the f outa way way” and threw you down. You not only kept the Russell face sweater you were wearing (he touched it while throwing you after all), but got off the floor turned to the guy behind you and said HES NOT SIGNING AUTOGRAPHS BACK UP AND LEAVE HIM ALONE!!!
It gives me that “I could take this guys money” feel, but hard to do online.
If folks are dishing out 40 bucks for that ugly T-shirt, then I think it’s rather apparent that their real motive is just to indirectly pay the players. I can see this situation spiraling out of control real fast with the fan bases competing with each other in spending wars.
The good news is this clearly favors UK, as we have more crazy fans willing to dish out the dough than anyone else. The downside is that it will give the impression that our future titles were simply bought. Folks will say we win only because our players make more money. And they’ll have a point.
People who think this is a good thing will soon learn schools with Boosters with deep pockets will trump Brand. School's with ties to Company Founders and CEO's will use personal and Corporate funds to secure the best of the best. UK is not in this category, sure we will get ours early, but, as time goes by and this thing gets figured out the big Booster schools will prevail.
Then Volleyball will become a money making machine. Just wait for womens basketball to complain about the very few endorsements.
This. I'm not a huge fan either but may as well embrace the future, because this is how it's going to be.
It's the ncaas fault. They could've controlled their descent and put some reasonable rules in place that would stave off a ruling like this. Instead they got their a$$ handed to them and have zero leverage moving forward.
You and I have agreed on this a few times. It boggles my mind why the NCAA sat there and did nothing just hoping it would go away. If they would have jumped on this 5 years ago, they could have written the rules and had some control still. But nope, inept leadership smacked them in the face again.