I'm just laughing at all the saltiness from some of the posters around rivals. I'm happy the kids are getting what they deserve. If it bums you out, you have no life.
NIL day one
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Love to see what Allen is doing. Do you know how many people from Florida St, Iowa, or even Gonzaga would buy these shirts? What, 5 people maybe? You might as well remove Allen's option to transfer from Kentucky (if this even was still an option), because now there's money to lose. He can't go to Boston College and use NIL. It will be next to meaningless there.
NIL is going to be perfect for a fanbase like Kentucky's.
NIL is going to be perfect for a fanbase like Kentucky's.
Statements of fact. How is that drama? Did it hurt your sensitivities hearing the truth?
Idk about all that. But your posts on this subject have been quite comical.
It is all about adapting to change, folks. It is what it is. Best to get on board.
Let’s get real. There are approximately zero people who are going to stop watching college sports because of this. So all the talk of the ruination of college athletics is overwrought.
Can't wait to see commercials at the under 12 timeout with Keion Brooks hawking Purnell Sausage!
Laugh your *** off when college sports turns into some pathetic semi-pro league of haves and haves nots
What other options do football players have?
$40.00 for a t-shirt isn't going to move the needle. His money is going to come from the private videos and zoom calls in that deal imo.
As long as he says "it's goood" lol
40 for a t-shirt might not make or break a guy like Allen. But I think it keeps a guy like him from transferring. Or at least something to think about, if a player is wondering about playing elsewhere. If they leave, they are throwing a lot of money out the door.
This is also the "get out of jail free" card for Louisville, Arizona, LSU, Kansas, etc... the NCAA is toothless now.
This is a pretty fair statement. I hope the athletes take this into consideration and take appropriate steps to have the knowledge to understand. They should be required to take classes on this if they are going to start profiting.
UK athletes need to think bigger... if UK is going to compete. Having your own apparel company and selling $40 shirts is a lot of work for very little money.
They’ve NEVER done it for free. Get a clue. Also, they’re not working. They’re playing a sport on scholarship.
I rarely ever agree with you about anything, but we’re in 100% agreement on this topic.
College athletes are NOT workers/employees. They’re students, though that has been made a mockery as well.
This is where we disagree. They are workers/employees, they just don't go by that title because the corrupt NCAA wants to keep all of the profit.
No they are NOT. They do NOT enter into an employee/employer agreement with the university. They sign scholarship agreements. Huge difference. If they’re employees, they should get a W-2 every year for the full value of their scholarship benefits and pay federal, state, and local taxes on that amount. Case closed.
Well then, now they get to play college sports without an anti-competitive cap on what they can earn. Capitalism!
Well, they will now. Not sure why people get so butthurt over the fact that these players should be justly compensated. Clearly, a wrong was righted and everything should be good. But with the NCAA, if you are taking money out of their pocket, everything has to be a drawn out process. This was a long time in the making.
Utter BS. College sports hasn't been amateur in a long time. And yes, they did do it for virtually free. Sure, they got free tuition and room and board but that's not compensation based on market economics. This is capitalism. And with as many conservatives as we have on this board I would think this move would be widely lauded. Or is that you believe in a free market until socialism (working for non-market compensation) benefits your entertainment.
This is a win for every capitalist in this country. Finally, players have some flexibility to take advantage of their unique skills instead of all that money going to coaches and administrators.
Well your first sentence is completely false then your post goes down hill from there. It was amateur and you had to cheat to get paid. As for the rest of your post, it just exhibits a complete ignorance of the terms you are using so a conversation would be like discussing it with a dog.
I’m a staunch Conservative and fully support capitalism. College athletes are NOT employees. They’re scholarship STUDENTS (laughable as that term might be in this context). And they’re compensated through their scholarship. Based on your argument, I fully expect every scholarship athlete to pay federal, state, and local taxes on the full value of their scholarship from this point forward. If they want to be treated as employees, it should be all the way.
Kroger now entering the picture with the hometown pickup tour taking current footballers at UK to various Kroger locations around the state for a meet and greet with high school prospects. What is unsure is what the student athlete will receive in remuneration
So, will college marching band members get paid? What about the student council officers? Students involved in producing student newspapers? Where does it end?
1. Corruption has existed long before now, this should fight the corruption and replace it with transparency
2. Name one other venture where the labor meets these qualities:
a. Their work product brings in millions for everyone involved but them
b. A group of entities join together to determine the compensation for their work product
This is capitalism, they have a skill and now they can receive market based compensation for using their skills. Amateurism was dead when coaches started making millions and athletic directors also make millions. The only people that were "amateur" were the players.
And this doesn't cost the school a penny.
If there are sponsors willing to pay them.
If someone wants to pay them to make an appearance, sure. Why not? That's the difference, the tuba player in the band is getting a scholarship (insert braniac who gets academic scholarship), but the tuba player is not generating millions of dollars for the school and packing 100,000 seat stadiums. Being compensated, and being fairly compensated, are not the same thing.
It will completely destroy athletics are smaller and mid-major schools. Players will simply go now where they can make the most money. It’s going to be like NFL free agency. Players will be loyal to their sponsors and not the school/team. You have to be really dense not to realize this.
Non-student-athletes on scholarship could go out and make money on their NIL if they were popular enough before this rule change. What's your point?
Either you don't understand NIL or you don't understand capitalism
There are exemptions for scholarships used for tuition, books, and supplies. For everyone.
You really are not making sense in your argument. You are saying they are not employees but are instead compensated students? Is that supposed to be coherent?
But guys when @kybassfan played for East Cumberland St and averaged 2.3 points in 1975 HE DID IT FOR THE LOVE OF THE GAME.
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Those conservatives like me who believe in free markets at more than the most superficial level are a dwindling minority among people who fancy themselves conservatives these days. And progressives sure aren’t picking up the slack so I fully expect a contest of wills at some point to see who will do the honor of standing me against a wall to be shot.
People bringing up capitalism fail to realize sports are different. Thats why they’ve been given some exemptions from anti-trust laws. They have no competitors. The NFL realized a long time ago that for the league to survive and flourish, they had to revenue share. Why? Because smaller market teams can’t compete on equal grounds. i know many (like myself) would say if they can’t compete on their own they should be allowed to fail. That’s fine in most businesses, but it won’t work in sports. Not unless you want a 6 team league with teams only in NY, LA, Chicago, etc. The way they do it is not only good, but great for the league. It’s a unique situation.
This development in college sports will benefit the top dogs, but will end up destroying competition. If that’s what you want, then great. It’s not what I want. I don't. I don’t want a handful of schools to get an even greater advantage than they already have and that’s where it’s going to end up. They might as well reduce the NCAAT to 16 teams in a few years, because that’s all that’s going to matter.
This development in college sports will benefit the top dogs, but will end up destroying competition. If that’s what you want, then great. It’s not what I want. I don't. I don’t want a handful of schools to get an even greater advantage than they already have and that’s where it’s going to end up. They might as well reduce the NCAAT to 16 teams in a few years, because that’s all that’s going to matter.
LOL. Well, considering one of my undergrad degrees is in Econ and I have an MBA, you could not be more wrong.
Let me explain so even an idiot can understand. Scholarships are compensation, but they’re not taxable as such. Take that up with the U.S. tax code. It’s Title 26 in the U.S. Code if you’re interested. Being paid as an “ employee”, as has been argued on here, does represent taxable compensation. It’s the law. It’s the way it is. You cannot be classified as an employee and not pay taxes on the compensation. Period.