NCAA: "UNC No Academic Violations"

madskilz

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ARE YOU F*CKING KIDDING ME?

The NCAA will take North Carolina wrong doings out on a small insignificant College that Cain't defend themselves.
 

serdi

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We should flood the Capiluto and Barnhart with letters, emails, etc. requesting that UK no longer play North Carolina in any intercollegiate sport, or work with them in any academic research of any kind. The power 5 presidents and athletic directors and coaches are just like all the people in hollywood not saying a damn thing about Harvey Weinstein. They all know that the arrogant sobs are the biggest cheaters of all time, an yet they are walking. I graduated from UK. I have followed UK athletics for over 50 years. It has been a passion and hobby in my life. I have listened to their arrogance and demeaning of my school, and may state, and my basketball program as backwater and cheaters…any now they are exposed and walk? October 13, 2017 is the day college athletics died. I will have a lot of free time on my hands to do something that matters.
 

Dr. H Lecter

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I believe I read where it was 53% non athletes to 47% athletes. I'm sure these percentages match the ratio for the entire campus...you're a liar by omission

You have a better point by trying to argue the percentage of AA students to the whole...and then from that taking the % of AA athletes to the AA population as a whole...then looking at your 53/47 ratio. I dont know the answer to that but that could have some merit.
 

AllBall

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ARE YOU F*CKING KIDDING ME?

The NCAA has now established a precedent that encourages the use of paper classes to help student athletes struggling with eligibility. There will be "NO" punishment as long as the entire student body has access. The limits of protection for certain universities knows no bounds. Here I thought NCAA stood for National Collegiate Athletic Association, but it actually means North Carolina Athletic Association.
 

MWes11

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"Benefited regular student as well". You literally just gave the blueprint for every university to cheat and keep their athletes eligible. Create a dept., sprinkle in a few regular students, populate the classes with all major athletes, and give fake grades to everyone enrolled. That way the university can say it didn't just benefit athletes, but rather all "students".
 

KY_BBN

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If the UNC case doens't fall under the blanket "lack of institutional control" charge, where they can effectively punish you for anything, then the NCAA doesn't need to exist.
But they didn’t lack institutional control, the basketball team didn’t do anything that violated their own university’s policies or a set rule or law. To me, LOIC has always just been enforced as an add-on violation, you get hit with three other violations and they add it on as a reinforcement. This is the problem with a catch-all rule, especially in a case like this, selective enforcement. Don’t get me wrong, I think this is complete BS and their academic reputation and athletic accomplishments should be tainted but at the end of the day they were just more clever at cheating than other schools such as Louisville.
 
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howercat

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Said it many times, and will say it again, UNCheat and dook are untouchable. Corrupt NCAA will never do anything to these schools.
 
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qwesley

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The ONLY silver lining is that UL fans will flip the hell out when they get hammered. The city better be prepared for overtime for first responders.
 

struggler

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No. I am simply saying what ever lawyer will tell you, what the NCAA has now said, what individuals like Jay Bilas have been saying, etc.

This was outside the jurisdiction of the NCAA. There was no illegal "benefit" given to student athletes that non-student athletes did not also receive. I am sorry if you can't accept the truth.

I know it hurts that UNC beat UK and won the title, but that is sports. This deals with laws and the legal system, and the NCAA knew this was outside their jurisdiction.
Set fazers to "Sanctimonious prick satisfied being a fraud gloating from the bottom of a cesspool of THE BIGGEST CHEATING SCANDAL in the history of college athletics enabled by the media and governing body thinking his participation trophy means something" - Fire Fire Fire.....

Seriously dude - only a eunuch would gloat over such ill-gained "Titles" on the internet on another board. No class... well - kinda like UNCCheat - so it fits.... Here's hoping, unlike you, others will have the balls to stand up to this kind of crap. The irony of your "I am sorry if you can't accept the truth" is hilarious to anyone NOT UNCheat... You sold your souls so long ago you can't see the truth... wouldn't recognize it.

Your ethics are lower than U of L... I am sorry if you can't accept that truth.
 
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Seth_C

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If the university of Kentucky wants me to watch or attend another game they can abandon the NCAA. Point blank. The end. Otherwise, I'm done.
 

hotelblue

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The ONLY silver lining is that UL fans will flip the hell out when they get hammered. The city better be prepared for overtime for first responders.
there is another silver lining...

without punishment the cloud will forever remain over unc. no remorse, no system changes, no self punishments. no growth. how can you bounce back from doing nothing wrong? they will remain where they are, and forever be tainted. championships don't change anything. they have 4 titles they never should have had. they are all tainted.
 
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BigBlueCatNation

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Disband the NCAA.

Only bright side is that I'm sure this has made UofL fans even more angry/depressed.

I disagree completely. Louisville now knows what it needs to do to avoid ANY punishment by the NCAA. With this ruling, the NCAA has shown that it is incapable of enforcing any rules or giving any punishment. Their excuse of, ‘Every situation is different and is handled differently’ cannot hold up anymore.

If I were Louisville I would deny, deny and deny. Then, if there is the possibility of any punishment, threaten lawsuits. Either way, I would totally keep the banner up and pretend like the NCAA did nothing to them.

The NCAA has just set a dangerous precedent, if true. Schools will be doing these same things from here on out with no possibility of getting in trouble by the NCAA. The only things schools will have to fear is the FBI and crossing the legal line.
 

qwesley

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there is another silver lining...

without punishment the cloud will forever remain over unc. no remorse, no system changes, no self punishments. no growth. how can you bounce back from doing nothing wrong? they will remain where they are, and forever be tainted. championships don't change anything. they have 4 titles they never should have had. they are all tainted.
counterpoint: to feel those things would require self-awareness which those smug jackasses do not possess
 

FilsonCat

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Do you think any UNCheat player or fan cares about titles being tainted?
No. The same way UL fans rationalized dripping ceiling tiles at the Minardi bordello as being perfectly normal applies here as well. **** smells great to dung beetles.
 

railroadkat_1

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WOW everyone walks. Women's basketball, football and the NCAA's darling Men's basketball. One thought here ..Debbie Crowder admitted one basketball player was only at 3rd grade reading level. Well how in the heck was he able to pass a college entrance exam???????????????????
 

WitnessGreatness

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I can see why though. If other students can take the class it becomes an accreditation issue and not a NCAA athletics issue
 

ColonelCat_rivals376764

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UL should have had ho's for all the student body and it would have been legal according to the NCAA type of thinking.

Come to think of it, There should have been a Emory envelope for several students along with Chris Mill's dad.

After all, "It's a shared thing"
 
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Jazzycat

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So defrauding numerous students from a solid college education is okay? Those athletes signed a contract that guarantees that they will receive a quality education within the confines of an athletic pursuit that benefits the university directly. In other words, it is a bilateral agreement that guarantees that education in exchange for athletic development and success.

How is this NOT an NCAA violation? It directly affects eligibility and viability as a "student athlete." At the minimum, it should cause UNC to lose their SACS accreditation which would disqualify them for D 1 status.

This system is rife with corruption. The only explanation is a lot of threats on individuals (knowing who is doing what) and the exchange of money to bribe the committee against any penalty.
 
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WOW everyone walks. Women's basketball, football and the NCAA's darling Men's basketball. One thought here ..Debbie Crowder admitted one basketball player was only at 3rd grade reading level. Well how in the heck was he able to pass a college entrance exam???????????????????
Derrick Rose says hi.
 

CatChow

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I found the version of the report written by UNC athletes:

“On the evening of October NCAA decided that it was going to look at the UNC section of academics in Chapel Hill, UNC. During this time UNC athletes get to take fake classes when they good players. The NCAA refused to accept this. It and the UNC began to talk and the conversation went like this. "Dont give athletes good fake classes" said the NCAA. UNC didn't stop and told the NCAA it didn't care. "I'm going to give you a stern warning " said the NCAA. "You may do that," UNC responded. Two NCAA administrators came in and UNC asked them, " why do you all push us around?" The NCAA replied and said "I don't know, but the law is the law and you are getting ultra-double secret suspended academic probation.”

A- work if I say so myself
 

Seth_C

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I just sent Mitch an e-mail letting him know I will no longer be watching or attending any UK athletic event. It won't make a difference, but it felt necessary.
 

Blueworld_3.0

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UNC created the fake classes....for everyone...in order to serve a specific "under-served" community. This is common at most universities these days. UNC did not exclude non student athletes so it was a systemic problem that had to do with academics....then athletes in that "under-served" community simply gravitated to them.

If by "everyone" you mean athletes primarily then, I concur. The non-students were allowed access only to CYA in the event that the NCAA came snooping. Actually, UK did the same thing back in the 70's and 80's when the NCAA balked at allowing only athletes to take up residence in what was then Wildcat Lodge. So, UK opened up a couple rooms for students to ensure that the NCAA was mollified.
However, rooming a couple of History majors in with athletes isn't even in the same universe as creating bogus classes, faking test scores and funneling athletes to easy grades.
The shame and degradation that should be heaped on UNCheat for what was decades of an underhanded scheme to simply ensure athletes remained eligible, should be a deafening roar.
 
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LadyCaytIL

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Again, if you would read the NCAA release, you would see that all students (student athletes and non-student athletes) took those easy classes. Indeed, a majority of those who took the classes were non-student athletes. The classes also were not formed to help only student athletes. Therefore, there is no violations of improper benefits to a student athlete.

This was always an academic issue. It was within the jurisdiction of the academic accreditation association, not the NCAA. And UNC has already been punished by the accreditation association. This was completely outside the jurisdiction of the NCAA.

Get mad at me all you want and call me names but I'm just trying to explain what is really going on here separate from the emotions of sports.

I'm pretty sure you were permabanned from here UNCfaninKy. I really really really wish someone here was an expert hacker....
 

Bluegrassking

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Starting to believe UL not going to get near the punishment we all thought. NCAA going to feel the pressure with letting UNC off the hook.

The banners are safe for sure now, in my humble opinion.

I don't even want them or anyone else to take a hit now. The NCAA can suck eggs and I'd prefer all members that have ever been penalized to sue the crap out of them.

I hope a million line beards converge on the headquarters and burn it down.
 

crittel56

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No. I am simply saying what ever lawyer will tell you, what the NCAA has now said, what individuals like Jay Bilas have been saying, etc.

This was outside the jurisdiction of the NCAA. There was no illegal "benefit" given to student athletes that non-student athletes did not also receive. I am sorry if you can't accept the truth.

I know it hurts that UNC beat UK and won the title, but that is sports. This deals with laws and the legal system, and the NCAA knew this was outside their jurisdiction.
I guess you believe OJ was innocent too?
 
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Derrick Rose was cleared to play at Memphis by the NCAA and changed their mind after the season was over! Memphis was hammered not coach Cal!?!
The NCAA repeatedly sticks its nose into academics and eligibility issues, regardless of rules or precedent, any time it is a school not named Duke or UNCheat. Penn State and Memphis received a completely different treatment than Corey Maggette, Lance Thomas, and UNCheat. It is a corrupt and rigged system.
 
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RDCat07

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correct me if Im wrong but wasn't there a departmental email that basically talked about how they were concerned that the regular student body found out about these class and wasn't there also an email that basically told ad visors to steer athletes to these classes...I mean next seasons unc team could consist of the 92 dream team and the NCAA would be like "whatevs"
 

Bluegrassking

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So all UL needs to do is show non players were in the room with the whores and it will all be good?

They screwed up by doing self sanctions.

The appropriate response to NCAA should always be "piss up the nearest flagpole, we'll see you in court or in Hell whichever comes first".

Never, ever admit guilt and never cooperate in the slightest.