NCAA: "UNC No Academic Violations"
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So If Rick was as slick as he thinks he is he would have given a regular student a $100 grand and would be in the clear
And just when you thought justice was going to flip UNC and have them submit, the NCAA rang the bell in the biggest screw job ever.
If I am Louisville I am scouring the campus to find some regular student friend of a player to say he got some free trim too. There ya go, ncaa problem all solved.
Should the rest of the college world send the NCAA and UNC thank you notes for showing everyone how to have a 100% graduation rate?
More seriously, Is there any point in the NCAA anymore? The Power 5 should break off, set their own rules, start signing student-athletes to contracts and start staging their league and playoff system. The NBA and NFL won't like it much, but F em.
More seriously, Is there any point in the NCAA anymore? The Power 5 should break off, set their own rules, start signing student-athletes to contracts and start staging their league and playoff system. The NBA and NFL won't like it much, but F em.
What's to stop UK from having a $50k talent show open to the entire university and then letting Cal or Catspause be the judge where we all decide we really like Wenyen Gabriel's rendition of Sweet Caroline?
My conspiracy theory heart says that is the plan… This gives other institutions the out, everyone gets paid; we get a new system and then were all pissed again.
You're right. We should vacate all the games those students played in too.
So if everyone benefits/cheats it's okay? Good Lord above you all are delusional. I applaud the mental gymnastics it must take being able to justify it.
If you look at this from UL's point of view, this is going to cost your school millions. Not just the athletic program, the academic institution loses millions. UNCheat commits academic fraud, the worst thing a member school can do in my opinion, and loses absolutely nothing. They're hanging bull$#1+ banners and UL loses theirs. That's bad, but think of what this means to each school's budget.
I'm not sympathizing with the UL athletic program, but I hate seeing this for any KY school particularly with the budget cuts.
I'm not sympathizing with the UL athletic program, but I hate seeing this for any KY school particularly with the budget cuts.
well, skipper did a great job of keeping the "scandal" on the low low at ESPN, now that it's over, prepare to watch the major vindication 24/7 for the next month
I've said for years that as a member institution, UNC had an ethical obligation to self-impose penalties.
They knew they were cheating. They chose to lawyer up and fight instead of taking their medicine.
And it worked. As bad as the NCAA has been for years, today marks an all-time low. I don't see how they can ever bounce back. At this point, I hope they all get hauled before another corrupt and inept institution (Congress).
They knew they were cheating. They chose to lawyer up and fight instead of taking their medicine.
And it worked. As bad as the NCAA has been for years, today marks an all-time low. I don't see how they can ever bounce back. At this point, I hope they all get hauled before another corrupt and inept institution (Congress).
If only all schools could benefit from absolute BS... on and off the court.
My facebook post:
And should we be surprised! Despite mountains of evidence that "The Carolina Way" is for UNC to create classes for the sole purpose of keeping athletes eligible without attending any classes, without taking notes, without homework, and without tests, the NCAA has basically said move on there is nothing to look at here. Did the classes benefit "only athletes"? No, but approximately 1/2 of the students in those "classes" were athletes, and records showed they were steered there by the athletic department academic counselors. A University of over 29,000 students, and 1/2 the students for these fraudulent classes came from a group of about 200 athletes (<1%). Even if you narrow down those who might take the AAFM "classes" to the African-American subset of the student population which is about 10% (so almost 3000), that doesn't come close to explaining the imbalance. So apparently if UL and Pitino had given some cash to a regular student and got some prostitutes for a couple of regular students, then UL/Pitino would be free & clear also because the athletes would have been treated the same as some regular students.
Excuse my frustration! But living here in the middle of ACC country, I can't count how many times I've heard from UNC (& Duke) fans that "Calipari cheats" over the past 8 years. Yeah really, where's the proof? "Well he got UMass and Memphis put on probation." Did you read the findings, I did. Calipari was accused of nothing significant in both instances. In both cases, the biggest thing was that he had a single player who made a bad decision, 1 player (Camby) choose to secretly accept $ to sign with an agent mid-season, and 1 player (Rose) was accused of cheating on his SAT. Should those teams have forfeit their wins, yes. But I don't see how anyone could put it on Calipari, other than maybe he recruited kids of questionable character. I think in the Rose case, Calipari let Rose's brother ride on the team plane to a game (compared to UNC giving Tyler Hansbrough's mom a job, or a Duke booster giving Chris Duhon's mom a job at my former employer). How is that (Camby) different from Corey Maggette accepting cash from his summer league coach (Myron Piggie) prior to playing for Duke, or Lance Thomas accepting a $70K loan on a $98K piece of jewelry while at Duke. Then there is the Wheels-for-Heels free rental car program that was going on at UNC for years via UNC booster Fats Thomas.
Found guilty or not by the corrupt NCAA, UNC and Duke fans have no business accusing any other team or coach of anything!
#TheCarolinaWayEqualFakeClasses
#NCAAisCorrupt
#ShouldHaveTakenAway2005and2009
#EvenDeanWasGuilty
#NCAAhasFavorites
#UNCCHeat
And should we be surprised! Despite mountains of evidence that "The Carolina Way" is for UNC to create classes for the sole purpose of keeping athletes eligible without attending any classes, without taking notes, without homework, and without tests, the NCAA has basically said move on there is nothing to look at here. Did the classes benefit "only athletes"? No, but approximately 1/2 of the students in those "classes" were athletes, and records showed they were steered there by the athletic department academic counselors. A University of over 29,000 students, and 1/2 the students for these fraudulent classes came from a group of about 200 athletes (<1%). Even if you narrow down those who might take the AAFM "classes" to the African-American subset of the student population which is about 10% (so almost 3000), that doesn't come close to explaining the imbalance. So apparently if UL and Pitino had given some cash to a regular student and got some prostitutes for a couple of regular students, then UL/Pitino would be free & clear also because the athletes would have been treated the same as some regular students.
Excuse my frustration! But living here in the middle of ACC country, I can't count how many times I've heard from UNC (& Duke) fans that "Calipari cheats" over the past 8 years. Yeah really, where's the proof? "Well he got UMass and Memphis put on probation." Did you read the findings, I did. Calipari was accused of nothing significant in both instances. In both cases, the biggest thing was that he had a single player who made a bad decision, 1 player (Camby) choose to secretly accept $ to sign with an agent mid-season, and 1 player (Rose) was accused of cheating on his SAT. Should those teams have forfeit their wins, yes. But I don't see how anyone could put it on Calipari, other than maybe he recruited kids of questionable character. I think in the Rose case, Calipari let Rose's brother ride on the team plane to a game (compared to UNC giving Tyler Hansbrough's mom a job, or a Duke booster giving Chris Duhon's mom a job at my former employer). How is that (Camby) different from Corey Maggette accepting cash from his summer league coach (Myron Piggie) prior to playing for Duke, or Lance Thomas accepting a $70K loan on a $98K piece of jewelry while at Duke. Then there is the Wheels-for-Heels free rental car program that was going on at UNC for years via UNC booster Fats Thomas.
Found guilty or not by the corrupt NCAA, UNC and Duke fans have no business accusing any other team or coach of anything!
#TheCarolinaWayEqualFakeClasses
#NCAAisCorrupt
#ShouldHaveTakenAway2005and2009
#EvenDeanWasGuilty
#NCAAhasFavorites
#UNCCHeat
Not surprised at all. Have been saying for a long time nothing will be done. Now all of the schools that have been punished by the NCAA should sue them. If I was UL I would dare the NCAA do something. I can see the end of the NCAA now.
Bilas already on tv calling the investigation a huge waste of time and money. That's all you will hear from Vitale thru the season as well. Btw Vitale wants Jurich retained at UL. They will bend over backwards to protect the crooked ACC.
Not surprised at all. Have been saying for a long time nothing will be done. Now all of the schools that have been punished by the NCAA should sue them. If I was UL I would dare the NCAA do something. I can see the end of the NCAA now.
If that is how the NCAA feels about it then they shouldn't have any rules regarding academics. There should be no requirements for athletic eligibility that are tied to academics. If your school feels like they should play then they can play, classes and GPA be damned.
I stopped listening to him altogether. I used to like him, but now I pretty much hate him.
This. There is literally no point to even having sham classes now, because what are we gonna start deciding which sham is shammier??? Disband the NCAA, let colleges pay what they want out in the open under the guise of a job in admissions, and be done with this garbage.
Again....F**k off. To borrow a catch phrase lately, "Now is not the time to talk about this"...especially from UNCheat*** people like you.
Now will some mod ban this @sshole? You can ban a regular student too just to make sure that it's not a violation.
If this is the case, then what's to stop any college from just making real stupid classes for athletes and non athletes, which just oh so happens to make athletes eligible? SACS will wag their finger but they won't do anything. So are you in agreement that every college should do what UNC did?
Michael McCannVerified account@McCannSportsLaw 1h1 hour ago
Michael McCann Retweeted Sports Illustrated
If NCAA's tax exempt status--which is based on education--comes up again in Congress, how NCAA handled UNC academic fraud will be key topic.
Michael McCann Retweeted Sports Illustrated
If NCAA's tax exempt status--which is based on education--comes up again in Congress, how NCAA handled UNC academic fraud will be key topic.
words obviously mean more than UNC's classes do
Right, and hundreds of students across the country cheat on the SAT every year. Depending on where you play, that makes you ineligible even though it's totally outside the realm of control for the university for which you play.
You're essentially arguing that you had cocaine in your car but there were also gummy bears.
This. Maybe this is the first step to making athletics departments different from the college itself, a tax paying professional minor league.
Another angle in all of this mess, is that the NCAA is quite all right with primarily minority athletes being cheated out of a legitimate college education. The NCAA cares nothing about the advancement of minorities and everything about swelling their own coffers with advertising and television revenues.
We have to call this exactly what it is; ensuring that athletes for certain programs remain eligible no matter the cost. College basketball as we know it is a total fraud.
The most honest thing to do at this point is for conferences to make their own leagues and compensate players for their time and effort. In Europe, club teams do well and are equitable. They don't hide behind the phony sanctity of "amateurism" and "education", while coaches and administrators get filthy ******* rich in the process.
We have to call this exactly what it is; ensuring that athletes for certain programs remain eligible no matter the cost. College basketball as we know it is a total fraud.
The most honest thing to do at this point is for conferences to make their own leagues and compensate players for their time and effort. In Europe, club teams do well and are equitable. They don't hide behind the phony sanctity of "amateurism" and "education", while coaches and administrators get filthy ******* rich in the process.