There are 50 coaches who make more than that. But fine, eliminate the NCAA president and disperse his salary, everyone can get a large pepperoni.
The NCAA Board of Governors voted unanimously to extend President Mark Emmert’s contract to Dec. 31, 2025, on Tuesday.
Emmert has been the president of the NCAA since 2010, following high ranking roles at Washington, LSU, Connecticut and Montana State. Emmert is paid a base salary of $2.7 million. Emmert's contract extension was announced following its quarterly meeting.
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This is the best point and I've tried to make it before. Everyone is so worried about the star players and how the NIL rules will affect them, but think of a kid like Richie Farmer, that was never going to make money playing basketball. He could have made a fortune endorsing products while he was at UK. Why should that be prohibited?
A university is 100% a business. I'm very familiar with the University of Oregon from my time there. Only 5% of the entire university operating budget comes from the state. The university has to make the other 95% on their own through tuition, room and board, grants, fundraising etc. Public universities are essentially private entities these days. That's why tuition is getting out of control.
I have zero issues with athletic departments putting money back into the university and think it's great. I have applauded Mitch for taking on $50 million of the Science center and paying for it out of the athletics budget. That's how it should work. Unfortunately, having worked at Oregon for 8 years, I know that is definitely not the norm.
Just because you’re deemed intelligent if you attend Duke doesn’t necessarily mean you end up with more money. I bet we have more horse farms, more old money, more boosters that donate big money, Do you think just because you go to Duke you automatically become a millionaire after graduation? Do you think their students are that far above UK students in intelligence or the drive to be successful in life? A lot of people that are rich couldn’t get into Duke. Intelligence is a good thing, but to become rich is more about the drive inside you. I know a lot of people that are intelligent, but they aren’t rich . I do believe our boosters could and would donate more than Duke. Next time you’re in Rupp look down at the lower level. Most of those people are rich and donate a lot to UK.
I hate to tell you, but Duke blows UK out of the water in terms of giving. But...how much of that goes to athletics vs the university, might be a different story.
I'm still waiting for a good explanation on why someone can use their talents to sign his autograph on a MLB contact for 5 million dollars and retain eligibility but if he puts that same autograph on a napkin for 50 bucks then he's ineligible.
Endowment alone is proof. Duke's endowment is 14th in the nation at $8.5 billion. Kentucky is 78th at $1.3 billion.
Using each schools endowment is a good test. UK is less than 2B, Duke is over 8B, so.....
The NCAA explains it away as different sports, one of which is a nonrevenue sport. I already said I don't like that rule at all. At any rate, the goal has always been to create a fair situation in recruiting for revenue sports. Your point doesn't really change that.
Because the contract is to play professional baseball, where there is no potential conflict of interest with college football in terms of money. The A's don't give a **** about Oklahoma football, in fact they don't want him to be at Oklahoma at all. It's no different than any other job outside of their collegiate sport.
If he sells his autographs, some OK booster can pay him $100k for it.
They should make everyone have the same recruiting budget then. It's not really fair that Coach Cal can go hop on a private jet and fly anywhere he wants to recruit but the coach of North Southwestern State university has to drive 15 year old Honda Accord to visit someone.
No it isn't about some equal spending notion, it's about everyone having the ability to recruit fairly without money influencing kids decisions which is the very thing NIL will do. I barely care at this point and millions of others don't watch that much anymore either. As usual, the goose who laid the golden egg for everyone is about to be served for dinner.
Plus if you look at sites that average the salaries of graduates Duke is close to twice what a UK grad should expect to earn.
And most of those grads live on the East Coast where the cost of living is also twice as high as it is in Kentucky. There’s a lot of factors to consider other than raw numbers.
Personally, I’d rather be dirt poor living in rural Kentucky than to be filthy rich living in New York City. But that’s just me.
But your point is valid. Duke alum make more money.
Still, do they spend it on tickets to Cameron? All I ever see there are students. Meanwhile, lower Rupp looks like a Country Club. Not sure the alum at Duke love to spend their money on Duke basketball like UK alum do.
Dude, study capitalism and then get back to me. You sound like an idiot.
I'd honestly worry less about Duke than I would USC, UCLA and Oregon.
They’re not employees according to the courtss which is why they don’t get paid by the school. However, the courts also appear to say that since they are not employees the school can not prevent them from making money off their own likeness which is the crux of the whole argument. That my friend is capitalism at work. You build a reputation then you cash in. And let me say, I disagree that they’re not employees, and I think it’s only a matter of time till that changes as well. And please explain how a public university is not capitalism at work? Harvard’s 100k a semester and LCC is like 5k. Presidents, ADs, coaches, even professors get huge salaries for success. College is all about competition, I’m not convinced you went if you don’t know that.
I went to UK and what? Classroom competition isn't capitalism. Public universities are subsidized all over the place. The very act of granting scholarships is socialism. You throw around the word capitalism a lot but its you my friend who doesn't understand it very well. What you tend to describe is absolute capitalism which is a horrible idea but I'll leave it to you to research that one. To be an employee requires that an expectation of payment exists between the "employee" and "employer". That is never the case with student-athletes so, no, your opinion is simply wrong on that.
The courts also acknowledge the very real value of amateurism if you want to cherry pick like that.
Where did I say classroom competition was capitalism? And no, granting scholarships isn’t socialism. They are for the mutual benefit of the student and school. Again what you are describing is what’s being debated. And the courts are all moving in the direction of the athletes.
So much wrong in this thread. No school pays students a pell grant, you only qualify if your parents don’t make a certain amount. NIL isn’t the school paying them anything, so why would kids receiving off court money take anything from nonrevenue producing sports.
And the worrying about NIL giving unfair advantages to other universities? Have you seen UK’s facilities? Compare that to Ole Miss basketball facilities. They aren’t in the same universe. No one is complaining about “unfair recruiting advantage“.
No one in locker room will be jealous of their brother/teammate. I read on message boards how these poor, uneducated kids are lucky to be in college at all, which is true by the way for a portion of them. Then they are happy to be out of those situations and want to work hard so they can get the same opportunity the higher paid player makes
And the worrying about NIL giving unfair advantages to other universities? Have you seen UK’s facilities? Compare that to Ole Miss basketball facilities. They aren’t in the same universe. No one is complaining about “unfair recruiting advantage“.
No one in locker room will be jealous of their brother/teammate. I read on message boards how these poor, uneducated kids are lucky to be in college at all, which is true by the way for a portion of them. Then they are happy to be out of those situations and want to work hard so they can get the same opportunity the higher paid player makes
The biggest mistake the NCAA made is that they waited. They should have foreseen this coming and got ahead of it a few years ago. Put something together that would satisfy the student while still maintaining some sort of control. Now it’s going to be the wild, Wild West.
Dude I am a CPA and I have forgotten more business knowledge than you ever had.
Taking money from nonrevenue sports will be an indirect affect. What is being said is that interest in college sports, which is already declining, will decline even more. Most people aren't interested in semi-pro teams loaded with players with little to no love for the school they are playing for. Boosters will slow or stop donations. Fanbase passion will decline. With a declining fan base, money will eventually decline as well. When that happens, nonrevenue sports will be hit first. If you think human nature, which is to be envious to begin with, won't happen in the locker room you're being terribly naïve. Just wait til player x is lured to say UK with all sorts of lucrative endorsements and player b is actually better but is losing bigtime in the money game. If you think teenagers won't be jealous, lol, I don't know what to tell you.
I understand what you’re saying and thats very possible. It will totally depend on where the revenue comes from. It it’s local or regional our state can’t compete with the large cities. If it’s National then I don’t believe it would matter as much. Then you throw in other sports and it gets crazier. Football generates more money than basketball, even at Kentucky. So if kids start basing where they’ll attend on where they can get the most money for their likeness who knows how it will go.
"The NCAA's revenue totaled $519 million in 2020, down from $1.18 billion in 2019. The NCAA makes the bulk of its money from media payments, and that's where it took the biggest hit."
I guess they had a bad year. My bad.
"The National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) is a nonprofit organization that regulates student-athletes from up to 1,268 North American institutions and conferences."
Huh.
I guess you forget the part where most of that is given back to the schools.
I was one of those teens, so no they wouldn’t be jealous. I was in same QB room with 2 guys who parents were multimillionaires. I came from very modest background. Not a ounce of jealousy, opposite actually. You know no nothing in which you speak sir.
Also, I still dont see how non revenue sports are effected? Schools are paying kids, so money will still be there. Fans care more about having a good product than they do if kids are paid. Why doesn’t Vandy football sell out every game? Or the Ivy League dominating in attendance, ratings, and fan support? Purest form of amateur sports in D1
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You're a bit slow. Its very different when kids are earning their own money. No one cares whose daddy is rich and it wasn't brought up.
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College athletics (the ones that generate money) is a multi billion dollar industry. It's no longer amateur athletics. Everybody involved but the kids are getting rich as hell, and it's the kids people are paying to watch. The only people right now in America that can't make money off their own image are prospective and current student athletes. The other scholarship students at UK, recruited there to help boost the science program, law, whatever? They can. They can write a book and sell it, do a TV commercial if they want, whatever it is.
And whatever they're doing outside won't make one squirt of difference once they cross those little white lines. It'll still be On On U of K.
And whatever they're doing outside won't make one squirt of difference once they cross those little white lines. It'll still be On On U of K.
I understand your point. I really do. However realistically this is happening one way or another.
If the ncaa had any semblance of leadership, they would've been way out in front controlling the descent. That could've mostly preserved college sports as we know it.
Instead of course they had Emmert who is pathetic. So the descent was like a skydiver with a parachute that didn't open. So now we're about to get some Frankenstein version of college sports where shoe companies openly control who goes where.
This used to be America. Now, it's you can only do something if certain groups approve of what you're doing.
It’s just like with pros. Not everyone on the Bucs roster makes the money that Tom Brady makes, yet they practice just as hard everyday and some made game winning plays, just like Tom. I am sure some are jealous but they sure didn’t look that way when they were kissing all over that trophy after the Super Bowl.
Athletes understand there are superstars and role players in team sports, and superstars make more money. For most, it’s all about the team and most are happy for their brother when they make the big bucks and let him buy dinner and pick up the bar tab. LOL!
Pros do have a problem with it but I'm talking about teenagers. Locker room problems will come up from it.
I’m sure. Locker room problems happen without money being a part of the equation. Jealousy over PT is basically the same thing. Some guys are just better and get to play more, now with NIL, they will also get paid more. It’s really all the same. This just adds to it.