Mueller is a complete Buffoon.....

atlkvb

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Did you read the document? It clearly lays out in section b exactly what the scope of the investigation was. It was related to the Trump campaign only. And, if you think about it, that makes sense. Any crime committed by a losing campaign would not need a SC to investigate, charge, etc.

Mule, Trump was placed under investigation because he ran against himself? If the Russians attempted to "interfere" in the election, why was only one side looked at? Trump won. Why wouldn't Mueller be interested if the Russians tried to help Hillary win? She was part of the election too was she not?
 

atlkvb

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@mule_eer ?


any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and
any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).


Please explain what this means? If they could go after financial fraud and Taxi medallions not associated with Russia, surely Russia interacting with a paid employee of the Clinton campaign is within the scope.
 

atlkvb

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Any crime committed by a losing campaign would not need a SC to investigate, charge, etc.

If Mueller was investigating any potential criminal activity related to the election why would he not look over on the Democrat side? What are they "crime free"?

Explain.
 

mule_eer

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Not who hacked them? He never detailed how that server was compromised and who did it? All he talked about in his report was it "likely" being done by the Russians. However he was charged to "investigate" ALL Russian attempts to interfere in our election. So why not investigate if they actually did it, and offer that in his report on Russian "interference"? Why was that not investigated Mule?
Mueller Report, Volume I, Section III. Did you read this or skim through?
 

atlkvb

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Mueller Report, Volume I, Section III. Did you read this or skim through?

How were his conclusions reached in that section mule? What evidence did he detail that was examined? I didn't read in there who he determined actually hacked that Democrat server or how he reached that determination. Did you?
 

dave

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I guess you missed the part about the investigation being impeded by some folks related to the campaign telling partial truths or outright lies. You also missed the part about the written answers provided to the SC by Trump.
I missed where thar was prosecuted.
 

dave

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I'm not hurt about any of this. I was simply pointing things out as I saw them. Also, Dave tried to defend it, not brush it off as a joke, in his response to me.
No dbag, I was joking and he jokingly calls me names all yhe time too. Sorry if someone offended your effeminate hormones.
 

bornaneer

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You also missed the part about the written answers provided to the SC by Trump.
Sooooo Mueller, or most likely his Demorat investigators,didn't like Trumps answers. What's the crime? I believe Trump's answers would be considered under oath.
 

mule_eer

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The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBIDirector James B. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:

(i)

(ii) (iii)

any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and
any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).

Please explain what this means? If they could go after financial fraud and Taxi medallions not associated with Russia, surely Russia interacting with a paid employee of the Clinton campaign is within the scope.
As I said before, you don't need a SC to investigate that. People were already griping about the length of the investigation, scope creep, etc. He followed his direction to investigate possible links between the Trump campaign and Russian interference. He found and pushed for indictments for potential crimes by people related to the Trump campaign. The DOJ is free to investigate HRC and her campaign. Have at it.
 

Gunny46

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Sooooo Mueller, or most likely his Demorat investigators,didn't like Trumps answers. What's the crime? I believe Trump's answers would be considered under oath.
He did ... this has always been a perjury trap.
 

dave

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Sooooo Mueller, or most likely his Demorat investigators,didn't like Trumps answers. What's the crime? I believe Trump's answers would be considered under oath.
They wanted to try and trap Trump into lies and got butthurt that better lawyers outflanked them.
 

Gunny46

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As I said before, you don't need a SC to investigate that. People were already griping about the length of the investigation, scope creep, etc. He followed his direction to investigate possible links between the Trump campaign and Russian interference. He found and pushed for indictments for potential crimes by people related to the Trump campaign. The DOJ is free to investigate HRC and her campaign. Have at it.
They are and all co - conspirators.
 

Pospecteer

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Can you please tell me me exactly where I wrote what you want to know? What was your question? Oh, sorry can't go into that. [eyeroll]

 

bornaneer

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Christopher Steele's name was numerious times in the report....yet every time a Repub asked Mueller a Steele question....he claimed up.
 

mule_eer

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How were his conclusions reached in that section mule? What evidence did he detail that was examined? I didn't read in there who he determined actually hacked that Democrat server or how he reached that determination. Did you?
Officers of the GRU, and he cites a unit number as well. I already referred you to the correct section of the report. It starts on page 36. As for how it was examined, parts of that were redacted to conceal investigatory technique. You could also read some of this in the indictment of Viktor Borisovich Netyksho.
 

atlkvb

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As I said before, you don't need a SC to investigate that. People were already griping about the length of the investigation, scope creep, etc. He followed his direction to investigate possible links between the Trump campaign and Russian interference. He found and pushed for indictments for potential crimes by people related to the Trump campaign. The DOJ is free to investigate HRC and her campaign. Have at it.

My question was why didn't Mueller investigate her or the Dems? They were part of the election too, why were they exempt from his probe of Russian attempts to influence the election?
 

atlkvb

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Officers of the GRU, and he cites a unit number as well. I already referred you to the correct section of the report. It starts on page 36. As for how it was examined, parts of that were redacted to conceal investigatory technique. You could also read some of this in the indictment of Viktor Borisovich Netyksho.

He didn't call in the FBI's forensics experts to examine who hacked that server Mule! They work for his DOJ. GRU? Are you kidding me?
 

bornaneer

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My question was why didn't Mueller investigate her or the Dems? They were part of the election too, why were they exempt from his probe of Russian attempts to influence the election?
Because the 19 Demorats doing the investigation were only interested in getting Trump. I think that was made very clear today.
 

mule_eer

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@mule_eer I'm disappointed in you Bro. It's not like you to just whiff on questions. Have you been checked for early stages of TDS my Man? It's curable if detected early.

@tjebarr @moe @bamaEER @Boomerwv @Original Mountaineer1 @countryroads89 @WVUCOOPER @WVUBRU are all terminal.
What did I whiff on? You asked where things were, and I quoted them to you. You asked why certain things weren't investigated, and I provided answers and references to back up my answers. If you don't like my answers, fine by me. To claim that I'm dodging questions is inaccurate.
 

bornaneer

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As I said before, you don't need a SC to investigate that. People were already griping about the length of the investigation, scope creep, etc. He followed his direction to investigate possible links between the Trump campaign and Russian interference. He found and pushed for indictments for potential crimes by people related to the Trump campaign. The DOJ is free to investigate HRC and her campaign. Have at it.
As far as the scope was concerned......Mueller had vast leeway in going after anything that came up......example .......Manafort. The Steele dossier sure as hell came up.
 

Pospecteer

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As I said before, you don't need a SC to investigate that. People were already griping about the length of the investigation, scope creep, etc. He followed his direction to investigate possible links between the Trump campaign and Russian interference. He found and pushed for indictments for potential crimes by people related to the Trump campaign. The DOJ is free to investigate HRC and her campaign. Have at it.

Except the Steele dossier was part of the investigation against Trump. It had to be investigated because it was information about Trump provided by the Russians. It is the very thing he was required to investigate. At worst, it should have stated that they could not prove that Trump was not being blackmailed? Correct?
 

mule_eer

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Christopher Steele's name was numerious times in the report....yet every time a Repub asked Mueller a Steele question....he claimed up.
He said that it wasn't part of his purview. You can disagree with him, but that's how he and the team went about the investigation. I suspect they had more information than you or I.
 

dave

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Not at all. Usually people who have hurt feelings lash out, maybe call others names. I was just making an observation.
Do normal people usually insert themselves into friendly conversations of others?
 

mule_eer

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Except the Steele dossier was part of the investigation against Trump. It had to be investigated because it was information about Trump provided by the Russians. It is the very thing he was required to investigate. At worst, it should have stated that they could not prove that Trump was not being blackmailed? Correct?
Unless that had been resolved before the SC was appointed.
 

Gunny46

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He said that it wasn't part of his purview. You can disagree with him, but that's how he and the team went about the investigation. I suspect they had more information than you or I.
All investigations start with validation of your evidence. Now remind us how all this got started.
 

mule_eer

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He didn't call in the FBI's forensics experts to examine who hacked that server Mule! They work for his DOJ. GRU? Are you kidding me?
I'm not kidding you. It's in the report. Also, even if he had specific names, do you think those would be in the redacted report? I'm really not sure what straw you are grasping at with this line.