Moreno Trending First Round
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Not necessarily - he'd get more in NIL. Kid is not going first round. There are far better centers than him that are trending towards the back end of the first - Ejifor, Reed, etc.
And taxes but marketability is most likely higher in those bigger cities even though you have more competition. A star is a star wherever he’s at.
You are right, but the other side of the coin is that means a guy like Moreno may go higher than he ever will because guys ahead of him choose to come back.
Nitro would spin it. Good for you for having some self respect. I applaud you sir.
Speaking of Nitro, where he been?
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He really could and greatly improve his draft stock. It will crush us, so he will likely leave lol
in my opinion at the end of the year we were better at point with Aberdeen than we would have been with Lowe so not sure the loss had that much effect. The JQ decision was suspect from the beginning give the time of the injury and surgery. I think it was foolish at best to have spent that much on a maybe. Whoever provided that advice if it was truly given, was totally off base.
What are you basing that he would make more in NIL on?
Then why is being mocked just under the 1st rd if he has no chance?
Then being at the back end of the first doesn't mean Moreno can't be as well.
It reminds me of the summer after Sutton’s last year when probation hit. There was some hope though because of Pitino’s optimism. But, boy it sure seems gloomy right now.
Lol, what was the budget? Clue....you don't know,cause no one knows. You addressed one missing player. You forgot about the other 2 from the too 8,one who had moved into starting role when he got injured,the other was a projected starter and project nba draft pic who played parts of 3 or 4 games. Also the backup point decommitted. Why did you leave all that out.....because you know it does not support your argument. Now ask how many. The answer is all them would have done almost as bad or worse. The whole laughing stock thing was based completely on someones made up nil budget for UK. Someone who does know and gave no source.yet idiots fell all over themselves to believe it. Who's the real laughingstock here...I'll give you a mirror to help you see.
Show me the mock - would love to see it. I have looked a dozen's of mocks and Moreno is never there. One guy going out on a limb is saying he's a first rounder? How has the perception shifted? Is he doing private workouts? I certainly didn't see anything with him that suggested first round talent.
Pope took a huge gamble with JQ that didn’t pay off. Why that didn’t pay off is a topic in of itself but let’s get to the crux of the problem and why pope had to gamble in the first place. Because he couldn’t land anyone else and no other program was willing to pay JQ what we paid him for a maybe he plays. All pope has done at UK is prove that who your coach is does in fact matter. The university and prestige of the program no longer do the lions share of closing on a prospect like it used to or at least used to have a lot of say. Now it’s obvious it doesn’t and no one elite wants to play for pope, even marginal players are turning us down. Pope has reached a level of recruiting failures I did not think possible in my lifetime yet here we are.
It was the UK budget Einstein and that was enough.
I quoted the craziest part of what you wrote and I responded to what I quoted. I didn’t feel the need to respond point by point to all your drivel.
Thanks.
And none of that had anything to do with anything I posted. I think we can all agree that recruiting is a huge problem. Not sure how much of that is pope and how much is JMI...assume is a combination of those 2 factors, but who knows the percentage of each.
Lol...ok. budget reported by who? Where are the official document with these numbers that you are so blindly following. Prove my post to be "crazy'. The only thing you got right is that I do look like Einstein compared to you. Also, since you are so smart you should know that money budgeted isn't money spent...whether that number has any truth to it or not.
Espn has him at 43, Bleacher Report has him at 31. Those are pretty reputable.
Who said he was a first rounder? He put him just outside the first round and stated a strong performance at the combine could push him into it.
He was listed just outside the lottery during a stretch of the regular season. It's really not hard to envision. At other players have withdrawn, his stock has increased. You can't teach 7 feet and long arms.
Just because you don't see it doesn't mean others don't.
I've been looking at mocks and listening to big boards all year - nothing has ever been mentioned of Moreno. The kid barely registered this year.
I can believe him at 43 - that's in the "flyer" zone. If he wants to leave for 43, God bless. There are players slated to go in the teens that are coming back for NIL (Haugh, Mullins).
Pope can’t help Moreno went to the draft! Nobody expected it! Ur negator!!!! U just hAtE pOpE!!!!!
I mean, whether you saw it or not is irrelevant to whether it actually happened. You can go back on this forum and find threads about it. He had a lot of buzz in Dec.and Jan.
Many players in the 2nd rd end up with pretty good deals, and the more people drop out the higher he can go. I would say the #31 is getting pretty close to accurate as of right now. A good combine showing would help even more.
Very strong draft class this year. Next year he can be a lottery pick & make $8 to $10 million a year for 4 years meaning another $25million over the next 5 years if he stays at Ky for another year.
Could be - there's been 4 late first rounders drop, but this is a talent rich/deep draft. If some of these other players testing stick, it could then push him back (Milan, Graves, Tounde).
Second round deals usually offer two years guaranteed with a total of around 3mm - very little reason to take a second round deal over NIL unless you just really want to go. Very little.
Not true. Are you starting something? Are you a Louisville fan?
Malachi Moreno on the cusp of 1st Round in new NBA Mock Draft
Could Malachi Moreno climb into the first round of the NBA Draft? One mock draft has him on the cusp ahead of next week's NBA Draft Combine.www.on3.com
If he declares, Lordy, what a season it will be! I believe he will do very well in the combine, boom, gone.
For him to he moving up draft boards like he is, it's unlikely others are going to push him down unless they simply outperform him.
It's talent rich at the top. After the lottery, it drops off quite a bit.
2nd rounders are getting guaranteed deals quite regularly now. We just has Amari Williams end up with one. Also, you can still earn promotional deals, jersey sales and so on in the NBA, while also coming back and earning money off UK fans. So, why would being at UK be of financial benefit? What's his NIL deals here?
Yes, I’m a Card, you got me man!
A 5 is going for 3-4mm easy. That'll be worth two years of a second round deal.
There is absolutely zero reason to go in the second round. The math doesn't add up at all. He'll get more marketing deals while at UK than on the bench in the NBA, or in the G league (which most second rounders end up on).
His deal is 3 - 4 million? Do you have any proof of this?
Depends on what math you're using:
Using biased UK fan math that want Moreno back? Sure!
Using logical and accurate math with overall numbers of a guaranteed deal, endorsements and so forth, likely not.
I have proof of:
UK is not short on dollars
The going rate for top portal 5's was 4mm (Bidunga rumored at 4-5mm)
Bigs were in high demand this year, and given Pope doesn't have much behind him, I'm sure he's paying at or above market to get him back.
Hear me out...
What if Pope/Moreno are using his draft indecision as a way to better entice another big man.
Scenarios:
A) Moreno stays in the draft leaving a starting spot open. Plenty of PT and money
B) Worst case for a recruit he comes back and you split minutes or backup the center spot. Still opportunity and money.
Hopefully, Pope is using this potential bad news as leverage to sign a recruit. What say you?
What if Pope/Moreno are using his draft indecision as a way to better entice another big man.
Scenarios:
A) Moreno stays in the draft leaving a starting spot open. Plenty of PT and money
B) Worst case for a recruit he comes back and you split minutes or backup the center spot. Still opportunity and money.
Hopefully, Pope is using this potential bad news as leverage to sign a recruit. What say you?
Add the realistic Pope scenario
C) He goes to the draft and reece potter is the starter
C) He goes to the draft and reece potter is the starter
No bad news . He’s coming back . He’s not sniffing a 1st round pick
If Moreno stays in the draft(and he is nowhere near ready to be a pro basketball player), after the shitshow of recruiting and transfer debacle we have seen the last two months, I’m probably not watching a game next year. At some point you have to put he foot down and say I’m not supporting this crap. I’m usually not like this but at some point this train wreck of a coaching experiment has to stop and we need to move on. If it takes not supporting the team and university I went to, have been born into, and that up until the past couples years has taken a lot of my time, then so be it. It’s time to stop supporting and watching until a change is made.
This one ranks high in terms of weirdest theory of the portal season. What?!?!
First Moreno isn't touching the first round - already had this spar with someone.
Second, what? Have you lost site of the lack of bigs in the market? Last I looked, top programs have been squeezing out reclasses and heading to China for what's left of it.
There are no bigs out there better than Moreno.
First Moreno isn't touching the first round - already had this spar with someone.
Second, what? Have you lost site of the lack of bigs in the market? Last I looked, top programs have been squeezing out reclasses and heading to China for what's left of it.
There are no bigs out there better than Moreno.
Damn, big brain Pope is out here inventing 5D recruiting.
Stand back and let the man COOK.
Stand back and let the man COOK.
Moreno has to situation. Are people so brain dead to fall for opened questions. Then some on line sports fool in need of hit make the head,Moreno Leaving UK?.. Then the same vomit come back with an anti pope post. My daddy always said follow the money. If you read it on here who’s getting paid. Not me, not you. UK moves basketball.