Moos says 8-9 Wins

chicolby

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I wouldn't read much into it, because an administrator like him is also part politician, meaning he can change the narrative anytime he wants to.

So is he setting up an expectation for Frost, the fans, or both?

Or is he just talking out his ***?

I'm going to lean more toward the latter.. based on the short history he has been here.

And, as long as we all know it's just talk, then we don't have to react to it like it's something meaningful, which it probably isn't.
What would you say if you’re an AD and the question is posed your way?
 

NikkiSixx_rivals269993

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What would you say if you’re an AD and the question is posed your way?
Honestly, it would depend on my mood that day.. I might say, we should win them all, or I might say one game at a time, or if I just got out of a meeting where I didn't like something and wanted to put pressure on the coach, I might shoot for something to make him work harder..

The point being, I'm not sure whatever he says is that meaningful, since he can change the narrative whenever he wants to.

Just like when he says Frost will be the coach as long as I am here.. that's not scripture, it just was useful for him at the time.
 
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can you imagine if we got 9 wins? then next year we going for that national championship.... right my guy? I mean and then if we don't go to the champship then FIRE FROST... we're better than 9 win seasons....this is Nebraska....c'mon
 

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Honestly, it would depend on my mood that day.. I might say, we should win them all, or I might say one game at a time, or if I just got out of a meeting where I didn't like something and wanted to put pressure on the coach, I might shoot for something to make him work harder..

The point being, I'm not sure whatever he says is that meaningful, since he can change the narrative whenever he wants to.

Just like when he says Frost will be the coach as long as I am here.. that's not scripture, it just was useful for him at the time.
I agree with your statement which I don't always do. Moos is breaking ground on new football facilities. Husker fans have become increasingly humbled as evidenced by the chatter on this board. It is important to put pressure on Frost now. If Frost doesn't get to six wins it will be easier for Moos to save his neck. Frost will be gone and so will the walk-on extremes plus the necessity of more locker rooms.
 

Redscarlet

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What would you say if you’re an AD and the question is posed your way?
Devaney had one of the greatest teams in college football history in 1971 and after the spring game he said I hope we’re good enough to beat our cheer leading squad..

You never need to show your hand when it’s dealt..
 

timnsun

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can you imagine if we got 9 wins? then next year we going for that national championship.... right my guy? I mean and then if we don't go to the champship then FIRE FROST... we're better than 9 win seasons....this is Nebraska....c'mon
Why are you still here? Some people have absolutely nothing better to do than go to an opponent’s board and post stupid crap. C’mon...
 

jimmyjoseph

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the hardest schedule in the country? Cmon LOL
its the B10 West
typical management speak. I'd love to see people actually call ADs and coaches on the carpet for their lies.
 

Redscarlet

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the hardest schedule in the country? Cmon LOL
its the B10 West
typical management speak. I'd love to see people actually call ADs and coaches on the carpet for their lies.

So who does have the toughest schedule in the Big 10?
 

mgbreeze

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This is why you don't do interviews drunk. On the other hand, Moos probably sleeps well at night knowing that he's retirement age and rich. So maybe doesn't give a ****. And on the other, other hand, we can win nine if we stop playing stupid football this year. So, pretty unlikely.
 

chicolby

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Honestly, it would depend on my mood that day.. I might say, we should win them all, or I might say one game at a time, or if I just got out of a meeting where I didn't like something and wanted to put pressure on the coach, I might shoot for something to make him work harder..

The point being, I'm not sure whatever he says is that meaningful, since he can change the narrative whenever he wants to.

Just like when he says Frost will be the coach as long as I am here.. that's not scripture, it just was useful for him at the time.
I think his answer accomplishes several things you would want to accomplish. Since he was on the record indicating 6 wins the past couple of seasons, this is indicating to the fans, and more importantly to the coach, that his expectations are higher, and they are not higher than just 4-5 wins. He expects a sizable jump. He doesn't throw the BS "win em all" phrase out there which would only backfire on him down the road.

I don't know that a win total statement is necessarily scripture, but I do think what he's saying has some meaning. I liked his statement.
 

chicolby

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Devaney had one of the greatest teams in college football history in 1971 and after the spring game he said I hope we’re good enough to beat our cheer leading squad..

You never need to show your hand when it’s dealt..
He was the coach. Different motives, but certainly effective.
 

chicolby

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This is why you don't do interviews drunk. On the other hand, Moos probably sleeps well at night knowing that he's retirement age and rich. So maybe doesn't give a ****. And on the other, other hand, we can win nine if we stop playing stupid football this year. So, pretty unlikely.
I find it interesting the number of people who remark on someone's finances as a reason to not care. I don't think Moos took the job to earn an additional million bucks and uproot his family to a state he's never lived in before. Yes, we all work to get paid and want to be paid market value, but I think he took the job, as many successful people do, because he wanted to accomplish something at a historic school.
 

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Not that he needs to make it public, but I think he’s setting the stage for a coaching change if we have another losing season. There would be no excuse for that. Short of 8/9 W’s wouldn’t necessarily justify a change, but I see him making it known he won’t tolerate more losing records. Those excuses have long sailed.
 

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Great win probabilities- SE Louisiana and Buffalo
Good win probability- Purdue, Michigan St, and Illinois
Toss ups - Michigan, Iowa, Minnesota, NW
Tough to see a win - Oklahoma, Ohio St, and Wisconsin
 

NikkiSixx_rivals269993

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I think his answer accomplishes several things you would want to accomplish. Since he was on the record indicating 6 wins the past couple of seasons, this is indicating to the fans, and more importantly to the coach, that his expectations are higher, and they are not higher than just 4-5 wins. He expects a sizable jump. He doesn't throw the BS "win em all" phrase out there which would only backfire on him down the road.

I don't know that a win total statement is necessarily scripture, but I do think what he's saying has some meaning. I liked his statement.
All the kool aid drinkers are going to like his statement and drink it up. (look at who liked your post)

This stuff was probably said because of them breaking ground soon on the new facilities projects.. you have to get the kool aid drinkers excited.. maybe get a few more checks written to the University for it.

That's the meaning I would take away from it.

Does it mean he is going to hold Frost accountable to that standard?

Since your group seems to think what he said is important, then we should all want to hold Frost accountable to that standard then.

Guess who is going to make excuses for Frost if he doesn't reach that standard?

You and all those who liked your post.

Do you see how circular and silly this is yet?
 

timnsun

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All the kool aid drinkers are going to like his statement and drink it up. (look at who liked your post)

This stuff was probably said because of them breaking ground soon on the new facilities projects.. you have to get the kool aid drinkers excited.. maybe get a few more checks written to the University for it.

That's the meaning I would take away from it.

Does it mean he is going to hold Frost accountable to that standard?

Since your group seems to think what he said is important, then we should all want to hold Frost accountable to that standard then.

Guess who is going to make excuses for Frost if he doesn't reach that standard?

You and all those who liked your post, and agree that what the AD said was important.

Do you see how circular and silly this is yet?
The funny thing to me is once you have something set in your mind, it doesn’t matter what anyone else posts on this board. Whether he’s a sunshine pumper or not.

Chicolby is not one of the usual suspects you like to poke a lot. But you already have the narrative mapped out, so no matter how logical Chicolby might be, he’s wrong.

You actually do this with just about everyone. You make your mind up and will not consider any alternative theories.

Makes me chuckle a little.
 

mgbreeze

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All the kool aid drinkers are going to like his statement and drink it up. (look at who liked your post)

This stuff was probably said because of them breaking ground soon on the new facilities projects.. you have to get the kool aid drinkers excited.. maybe get a few more checks written to the University for it.

That's the meaning I would take away from it.

Does it mean he is going to hold Frost accountable to that standard?

Since your group seems to think what he said is important, then we should all want to hold Frost accountable to that standard then.

Guess who is going to make excuses for Frost if he doesn't reach that standard?

You and all those who liked your post.

Do you see how circular and silly this is yet?
The comedy in your infatuation with kool aid drinkers is off the charts. You put it over the top with your damning indictment of the FOUR FREAKING POSTERS who liked his post. My god man, you're not the only person on earth who is skeptical of Scott Frost. You're just the nuttiest.
 

NikkiSixx_rivals269993

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The funny thing to me is once you have something set in your mind, it doesn’t matter what anyone else posts on this board. Whether he’s a sunshine pumper or not.

Chicolby is not one of the usual suspects you like to poke a lot. But you already have the narrative mapped out, so no matter how logical Chicolby might be, he’s wrong.

You actually do this with just about everyone. You make your mind up and will not consider any alternative theories.

Makes me chuckle a little.
I just gave my opion, and was asked to expand on it.

If people like you want to say it's important, that's cool with me..

just remember, you can't then say it wasn't important later down the road when trying to defend Frost.

I didn't set that trap, just pointed out the hole you all just dug for yourselves.
 

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The fact of whether 8-9 wins is realistic is an actual question heading into year 4 is a prime example of just how far Moos, Frost and their sycophants have navigated this program into a place where mediocrity will be wildly celebrated.

 

BigTimeFan75

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10 years ago: "Anyone can win 9 games, 9 wins are built into the schedule!" - Bo Haters
Now: "I wish Moos would shut up, man, 8 wins? ****"
 
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The fact of whether 8-9 wins is realistic is an actual question heading into year 4 is a prime example of just how far Moos, Frost and their sycophants have navigated this program into a place where mediocrity will be wildly celebrated.


Moos either needs to mix in a push-up here and there or stick exclusively to suits.
 

timnsun

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From my perspective, it's the boards infatuation with only positive posts being allowed on this message board.

You aren't the one constantly being hit over the head by this group of posters, so you aren't seeing the whole story.

I didn't post anything inflammatory in this thread, just not to worry about what the AD is saying as it's mostly meaningless.. and what happens? I got attacked.

Tell you what.. just kneel before Bill Moos then.. worship everything he says.. Husker Football is back baby.. 8 wins! lather yourself up in cherry topping and whipped cream and beat off in the shower singing the Nebraska fight song and join that nutty group of posters as it seems like the shoe fits.
I admit you are targeted quite often, but it isn’t simply because you post your opinion. You are entitled to your opinions, absolutely.

I think the issue is that often, when you post, it doesn’t feel like an opinion post at all. An example would be how Frost handled the Martinez/Gebbia QB race. You have made it known up and down and six ways to Sunday that you are absolutely right and anyone who disagrees is wrong.

That doesn’t feel like an opinion to me. And that’s just how you post much of the time. Maybe mix in some of the time, “IMO”.

IMO.
 

Indian Hawk

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Koolaid me - Realistic Me - Probable Outcome

Illinois - W - W - W
Buffalo - W - W - W
Oklahoma - L - L - L
Michigan State - W - W - L
Northwestern - W - W - L
Michigan - L - L - L
Minnesota W - L - L
Purdue - W - W - W
Ohio St - L - L - L
SELA - W - W - W
Wisconsin - W - L - L
Iowa - W - L - L

9-3 - 6-6 - 4-8

I think this is the most realistic outcome on the right.

However I think they could win 2 of their first 3 BIG games, giving them 5 wins on the season. Getting that 6th win this year would be a confidence builder to some degree but 7-8 wins would restore faith in Frost, IMHO
 

NikkiSixx_rivals269993

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I admit you are targeted quite often, but it isn’t simply because you post your opinion. You are entitled to your opinions, absolutely.

I think the issue is that often, when you post, it doesn’t feel like an opinion post at all. An example would be how Frost handled the Martinez/Gebbia QB race. You have made it known up and down and six ways to Sunday that you are absolutely right and anyone who disagrees is wrong.

That doesn’t feel like an opinion to me. And that’s just how you post much of the time. Maybe mix in some of the time, “IMO”.

IMO.
In my opinion, I am right?

that sounds silly.

In all seriousness, I thought all you homers would like my original post.. then it's as if people just attacked me just to take the other side, without even thinking about it.
 

leodisflowers

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I admit you are targeted quite often, but it isn’t simply because you post your opinion. You are entitled to your opinions, absolutely.

I think the issue is that often, when you post, it doesn’t feel like an opinion post at all. An example would be how Frost handled the Martinez/Gebbia QB race. You have made it known up and down and six ways to Sunday that you are absolutely right and anyone who disagrees is wrong.

That doesn’t feel like an opinion to me. And that’s just how you post much of the time. Maybe mix in some of the time, “IMO”.

IMO.

Isn't 99% of things posted on here opinion? I mean come on. I lean towards the side of sunshine most of the time because I love Husker Football and want us to be good, but outside of a couple pretty good years, we haven't done **** and still continue to step on our dicks, but proclaim things are going to be better. Do I agree all of the time with Nikki? No, but I think he is a good poster and if you step back from your koolaid, he posts a lot of things that have come true. It also makes it more interesting around here to debate. Outside of the trollers (most of them I've blocked) I actually like debating the other side. Makes things more interesting around here and most people love debating NU football because we all love the program.
 

timnsun

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Isn't 99% of things posted on here opinion? I mean come on. I lean towards the side of sunshine most of the time because I love Husker Football and want us to be good, but outside of a couple pretty good years, we haven't done **** and still continue to step on our dicks, but proclaim things are going to be better. Do I agree all of the time with Nikki? No, but I think he is a good poster and if you step back from your koolaid, he posts a lot of things that have come true. It also makes it more interesting around here to debate. Outside of the trollers (most of them I've blocked) I actually like debating the other side. Makes things more interesting around here and most people love debating NU football because we all love the program.
Of course this is true. Very few insiders. But people don’t have to be dicks about it either.

Once you look like a dick, it’s very hard to shake that. And sorry, but Nikki absolutely has looked like a dick early on in Frost’s tenure.

Nikki has posted some good stuff on here in the past, and I have acknowledged it. Debate is fine. Is it too much to ask for it to be respectful debate?

And for the record, I have been a dick many times as well. That’s kind of why Nikki and me clash. But we both want husker football to come back. We both can agree on that.
 
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Honestly, it would depend on my mood that day.. I might say, we should win them all, or I might say one game at a time, or if I just got out of a meeting where I didn't like something and wanted to put pressure on the coach, I might shoot for something to make him work harder..

The point being, I'm not sure whatever he says is that meaningful, since he can change the narrative whenever he wants to.

Just like when he says Frost will be the coach as long as I am here.. that's not scripture, it just was useful for him at the time.
not sure him saying Frost will be the coach as long as I am here is anything earth shattering. If Frost fails, the AD will be gone first, If Frost succeeds, the AD will be long retired before the football coach leaves. Again another pointless comment by him.
 
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8-9 wins is frickin' delusional. It would be a huge step forward to get to 6-6 and a bowl game this year. I put the chances of that at about 30%.