Miami University

[Saguaro Cat]

They're not the first team in history of NCAA to have a weak schedule. Lots of teams do every year. I don't see Western or Eastern or Weber State threatening going undefeated.

And they're one of like 5 undefeated teams over 40 years. It doesn't mean they're a championship team, but you get to go to the tournament for that

If they did lose a conference tourney game. Still got to put 68 teams in. Id prefer them over bubble team like Ohio State or Indiana who go 2-12 in quad 1 games.

 

[Jtf2217]

It looks like the AP poll is buying Miami's fool's gold of a schedule. There’s no way they should be at 21.

I'd argue that being #21 is skeptical. Any team 28-0 with decent schedule etc is going to rank a lot higher than #21, that's their holdback. I could see that argument if they were like #6 just squeaking by but they won't get a good seed and will be bounced in the second round.

 

[Snarks]

They're not the first team in history of NCAA to have a weak schedule. Lots of teams do every year. I don't see Western or Eastern or Weber State threatening that.

And they're one of like 5 undefeated teams over 40 years. It doesn't mean they're a championship team, but you get to go to the tournament for that

If they did lose a conference tourney game. Still got to put 68 teams in. Id prefer them over bubble team like Ohio State or Indiana who go 2-12 in quad 1 games.

Can’t reward easy scheduling though.

 

[Johnnie Africa]

Can’t reward easy scheduling though.

They have no control over like 60% of their schedule

 

[Snarks]

They have no control over like 60% of their schedule

Have control over the other 40% and played no one

 

[Johnnie Africa]

Have control over the other 40% and played no one

That would add up to 100%, spot on

 

[Saguaro Cat]

Can’t reward easy scheduling though.

Committee would be rewarding winning, as much as a 9 seed is a reward for winning every game in the regular season.

What you can't do is give participation awards. Aww, Ohio State, you tried and lost against all the good teams. You get to go to the tournament anyway because you're good at football and the Big Ten wants you in their little club.

 

[Johnnie Africa]

Committee would be rewarding winning, as much as a 9 seed is a reward for winning every game in the regular season.

What you can't do is give participation awards. Aww, Ohio State, you tried and lost against all the good teams. You get to go to the tournament anyway because you're good at football and the Big Ten wants you in their little club.

exactly, they don’t have control over the majority of their schedule, and they won every game. I mean what the hell more do people want lol. It’s sports, it’s not that deep or complicated

 

[wildcatdon]

Hard to believe that we were 38-0 once.

And did it without a coach.

 

[bbnkat02]

exactly, they don’t have control and we the majority of their schedule, and they won every game. I mean what the hell more do people want lol. It’s sports, it’s not that deep or complicated

People want to not see them get their *** kissed like their the next coming of a great team.

Their best win is AKRON. Freaking AKRON. A Q2 win.

 

[SenseMaker_Cats]

exactly, they don’t have control and we the majority of their schedule, and they won every game. I mean what the hell more do people want lol. It’s sports, it’s not that deep or complicated

I’m not sure how easy it is for these MAC schools to schedule P4 teams. Looking through the MAC team’s schedules they look pretty much like Miami’s. Some with the exception of one P4 team and a couple with two.

 

[Big BlueBeard]

Have control over the other 40% and played no one

That’s mainly because larger schools either couldn’t schedule them or refused the game. Don’t act like they can just pick and choose their schedules. Surely you don’t think thats how it works.

 

[Johnnie Africa]

People want to not see them get their *** kissed like their the next coming of a great team.

Their best win is AKRON. Freaking AKRON. A Q2 win.

People want to see them not be praised for being undefeated? Why not? I mean seriously why not? In what way is people being happy for them or impressed by them in anyway shape or form negatively impacting your life? No one is predicting them to win a championship, no one will have them as a number 1 seed. It’s just a fun feel good story, and it’s something in sports, which at the end of the day is meaningless entertainment. I mean I guess it’s true that people tune out positive news and only focus on the negative.

 

[bbnkat02]

People want to see them not be praised for being undefeated? Why not? I mean seriously why not? In what way is people being happy for them or impressed by them in anyway shape or form negatively impacting your life? No one is predicting them to win a championship, no one will have them as a number 1 seed. It’s just a fun feel good story, and it’s something in sports, which at the end of the day is meaningless entertainment. I mean I guess it’s true that people tune out positive news and only focus on the negative.

There's a difference between a "feel good" story and delusion. I've seen several people outside of the regular CBB watching that think they should be a FF team or will win it all. Heck, there's a couple of posts here that think they are ranked too low.

Also, with CBB basically being NBA AAA Ball now these "feel good" stories have lees impact.

Literally their best win is Akron. Who is 59 in KP. And 57th in the NET. Their bet win isn't even a NCAAT team.

It's also not gonna mean much around here considering we went 38-0 against MUCH harder competition.

 

[seccats04]

Laugh at their schedule all you want but I bet we’d be behind 28-10 in the first half to a handful of these teams.

 

[Johnnie Africa]

There's a difference between a "feel good" story and delusion. I've seen several people outside of the regular CBB watching that think they should be a FF team or will win it all.

Thats a total lie and completely delusional. My sister picks the NCAA champion based on her favorite mascot, that doesn’t matter because she’s someone outside of regular CBB watching, who cares. Nobody that follows the sport or seriously discusses it thinks they are going to win it all. They are ranked #21 lol. You have absolutely no reasonable reason to be negative about this team whatsoever unless you are just a negative grouch. Imagine if it was Berea that was undefeated people here would be rightfully happy for them. There is literally no negative impact on you in any way whatsoever for people to be happy for them. Lighten up. Hell, there is a chance if they lose ONE SINGLE GAME they might not even make the tournament lol

 

[bbnkat02]

Thats a total lie and completely delusional. My sister picks the NCAA champion based on her favorite mascot, that doesn’t matter because she’s someone outside of regular CBB watching, who cares. Nobody that follows the sport or seriously discusses it thinks they are going to win it all. They are ranked #21 lol. You have absolutely no reasonable reason to be negative about this team whatsoever unless you are just a negative grouch. Imagine if it was Berea that was undefeated people here would be rightfully happy for them. There is literally no negative impact on you in any way whatsoever for people to be happy for them. Lighten up. Hell, there is a chance if they lose ONE SINGLE GAME they might not even make the tournament lol

State the lie. And yes I've seen several outside of those of us into the sport that think because they are undefeated they are the best team.

I'm not being negative at all. I'm stating FACTS about them. If that's negative then, well, that's a you problem.

If it was Berea, yeah, we'd be happy because that's a LOCAL team. And Berea is a Div III school- lol. Comparing a Div 1 school to a Div III school in terms of national attention is a joke. Miami of OH is a nationally ranked undergrad institution. They aren't some random unknown school.

The fact that if they lose a single game they won't make the tourney backs up my point even further. They've literally played cupcakes. Sure, some of that they can't help due to conference (it's literally why Gonzaga is leaving theirs) but some of that they can.

This would be like saying your local high school is good because they beat up on some JV squads and then get shocked when they play a decent school they get "upset".

The Miami (OH) fans have every right to enjoy their season, as they should. Everyone else into the sport can absolutely critique their lackluster schedule and debate how good they actually are with honesty.

 

[bbnkat02]

Laugh at their schedule all you want but I bet we’d be behind 28-10 in the first half to a handful of these teams.

Their best win is a team ranked 59th. We suck, but no, we've actually been really good against cupcake teams.

 

[bbnkat02]

I’m not sure how easy it is for these MAC schools to schedule P4 teams. Looking through the MAC team’s schedules they look pretty much like Miami’s. Some with the exception of one P4 team and a couple with two.

I will acquiesce on that point. Its probably easier in FB too just because of more attention paid to the sport.

When Alabama schedules NW Directional State, people still watch. When Duke schedules Popcorn U, people into Duke and CBB still watch but the nation goes, "Wait. There was a basketball game on Monday? Sorry, I was watching the NFL game"

We love CBB here, most of the nation tunes into pigskin. Except for right now and March.

 

[Johnnie Africa]

State the lie. And yes I've seen several outside of those of us into the sport that think because they are undefeated they are the best team.

I'm not being negative at all. I'm stating FACTS about them. If that's negative then, well, that's a you problem.

If it was Berea, yeah, we'd be happy because that's a LOCAL team. And Berea is a Div III school- lol. Comparing a Div 1 school to a Div III school in terms of national attention is a joke. Miami of OH is a nationally ranked undergrad institution. They aren't some random unknown school.

The fact that if they lose a single game they won't make the tourney backs up my point even further. They've literally played cupcakes. Sure, some of that they can't help due to conference (it's literally why Gonzaga is leaving theirs) but some of that they can.

This would be like saying your local high school is good because they beat up on some JV squads and then get shocked when they play a decent school they get "upset".

The Miami (OH) fans have every right to enjoy their season, as they should. Everyone else into the sport can absolutely critique their lackluster schedule and debate how good they actually are with honesty.

I have to be honest I didn’t read any of that. I saw you wrote a lot of words and just lost complete interest. You are mad at Miami of OH or whatever it is that has you upset, got it. Good luck the rest of the season.

 

[bbnkat02]

I have to be honest I didn’t read any of that. I saw you wrote a lot of words and just lost complete interest. You are mad at Miami of OH or whatever it is that has you upset, got it. Good luck the rest of the season.

If you can't take 5 minutes to read "a bunch of words" that just shows how disingenous you are at having a discussion. Especially since I gave you equal respect and read yours. Thanks for that.

I'm not even mad about it- but you'd know that if you actually decided to read 6 literal sentences.

 

[Catfan in Tn.]

Being undefeated is still impressive.

 

[Nightwish]

If you can't take 5 minutes to read "a bunch of words" that just shows how disingenous you are at having a discussion. Especially since I gave you equal respect and read yours. Thanks for that.

I'm not even mad about it- but you'd know that if you actually decided to read 6 literal sentences.

He's turned into a bit of a troll on the new board. Did the same with me when the switch happened. He'll engage like he wants to be part of the conversation and then does a "ha aw how cute you really care about this well I don't" bit. There's nothing sillier than putting yourself into the conversation and then backing away and pretending you couldn't care less.

 

[HenryMuto]

They have no control over like 60% of their schedule

I would argue over 90% of it.

Teams from power conferences had no interest in playing Miami last year who won 25 games and had a lot of guys back and that includes Kentucky who only plays quad 4 games in the non con.

You would never see a power conf team play at Miami Ohio ever but you won't even see them play them in a neutral when they were good.

Miami couldn't even get a 2 for 1 home and home deal play 2 on the road 1 at home against teams.

So while people can pile on about the schedule go tell some power conf teams to play them

 

[HenryMuto]

Committee would be rewarding winning, as much as a 9 seed is a reward for winning every game in the regular season.

What you can't do is give participation awards. Aww, Ohio State, you tried and lost against all the good teams. You get to go to the tournament anyway because you're good at football and the Big Ten wants you in their little club.

You mean like North Carolina last year ? Like 1-12 vs quad 1 and got it

 

[HenryMuto]

People want to not see them get their *** kissed like their the next coming of a great team.

Their best win is AKRON. Freaking AKRON. A Q2 win.

Akron is pretty good team. I really hope Miami goes 33-0 and plays Akron in the MAC final and Akron wins and both teams get bids.

Then I want to see both of them win 1st round games as 11 or 12 seeds.

People underestimate the MAC all the time they are really good this year.

NET rankings

Miami OH 49
Akron 57
Missouri 59 (who won at Kentucky)

kenpom actually has Akron at 59 and Missouri at 51 pretty close

 

[HenryMuto]

Miami is on pace to get like an 11 seed right now even being undefeated how is this an undeserved seed ? Who cares about rankings they are just AP poll nothing to do with reality of the NCAA tournament seeding. Give them their flowers for being unbeaten #21 isn't some absurd ranking for an AP poll.

If Miami loses 2 games and goes 32-2 they might actually be left out of the tournament.

Even some talk that if they go 33-1 and lose that last game in the MAC final they might get left out how would you like that pressure ? I think this is absurd if they go 31-0 in the regular season they have to be in.

 

[bbnkat02]

Akron is pretty good team. I really hope Miami goes 33-0 and plays Akron in the MAC final and Akron wins and both teams get bids.

Then I want to see both of them win 1st round games as 11 or 12 seeds.

People underestimate the MAC all the time they are really good this year.

NET rankings

Miami OH 49
Akron 57
Missouri 59 (who won at Kentucky)

kenpom actually has Akron at 59 and Missouri at 51 pretty close

Here's the thing though. We should've won that game easily- that was a stupid drop for us. We play that kind of game for over 75% of our season. That was literally their best win. So their ONE good win equates to most of our sesaon's average games.

Yeah, that's why their schedule is getting them less respect. And why, even though undefeated, not getting much of a hype for P4 schools and fan bases. It was like the year ND played literally no one in FB and then got completely pwned in the FB playoffs by a decent team.

I dunno- going undefeated is still good don't get me wrong- but it's just not as impressive to this fan base when we did it better ya know?

 

[Anon1772243141]

I now hate Miami. They are stealing our thunder from 11 years ago and not enough people are still talking about what we did

 

[UKBB4Ever]

Right. Pope would have lost 10 games if he were the Miami coach.

 

[bbnkat02]

I now hate Miami. They are stealing our thunder from 11 years ago and not enough people are still talking about what we did

Tbf, that was a decade ago and our putrid last 4 years has erased a lot of that shine. But yes, we did it with a MUCH harder schedule and SHOULD have gone 40-0 if a rooferee, a timid Cal, and the ghost of WCS all don't coincide.

 

[Gobigblue812812]

Miami is on pace to get like an 11 seed right now even being undefeated how is this an undeserved seed ? Who cares about rankings they are just AP poll nothing to do with reality of the NCAA tournament seeding. Give them their flowers for being unbeaten #21 isn't some absurd ranking for an AP poll.

If Miami loses 2 games and goes 32-2 they might actually be left out of the tournament.

Even some talk that if they go 33-1 and lose that last game in the MAC final they might get left out how would you like that pressure ? I think this is absurd if they go 31-0 in the regular season they have to be in.

33-2. They 100% get in.

 

[Drogon]

Miami isn't even guaranteed to win the conference yet.. They lose their last 2 Akron needs to beat 10-19 Central Michigan and last place Northern Illinois 9-19 to win conference

They shouldn't even be thinking about the NCAAT right now. They still have work to do.

 

[HenryMuto]

 

[HenryMuto]

Bruce might to check the scores when the 7th place MAC team puts a beat down on the middle of the pack Big East team in their own house.

 

[HenryMuto]

Jerry Palm with the call out on XM tonight on my way home "The last 2 games for Miami OH are meaningless the only thing that matters if the MAC tournament. If they lose 1 game they are out"

He can't be serious. If Miami OH goes 31-0 and then loses in MAC tournament there is 0% chance they get left out.

I am so pulling for them to go 33-0 then lose the MAC final to Akron and I want to see the committee have the ball sack to leave them out.

I say it would never happen.

 

[Loucatfan30]

28-0

I hope they don't make the tournament

 

[KYFOSSIL]

There's a difference between a "feel good" story and delusion. I've seen several people outside of the regular CBB watching that think they should be a FF team or will win it all. Heck, there's a couple of posts here that think they are ranked too low.

Also, with CBB basically being NBA AAA Ball now these "feel good" stories have lees impact.

Literally their best win is Akron. Who is 59 in KP. And 57th in the NET. Their bet win isn't even a NCAAT team.

It's also not gonna mean much around here considering we went 38-0 against MUCH harder competition.

It could be wrong, but I think they just beat up below 500 western Michigan team won the last second shot

 

[HenryMuto]

I hope they don't make the tournament

 

[KYFOSSIL]

Right. Pope would have lost 10 games if he were the Miami coach.

Dude, would you just shut the **** up? Doesn't matter what thread it is you gotta say some negative **** about Pope. Got your pathetic.